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    I'm using the supplied proportioning valve that I modified for real time adjustment on the dash.


    I went with the Raybestos racing pad ST45. I usually use ST43 but they they said I should try the 45 for the same characteristics, just a little more friction.
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    .... And what were you using before (so i can steer clear)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hindsight View Post
    .... And what were you using before (so i can steer clear)
    What ever came with the Wilwoods. I think BP30 pads- horrible.
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    Good to know. Glad you found something that works. Will go a long way to making that next test session more enjoyable.

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    Where did you get them Chad the only thing I have fount through wildwood is a bp30. Is there a raybestos part #for the application? I think we have the same brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Clary View Post
    Where did you get them Chad the only thing I have fount through wildwood is a bp30. Is there a raybestos part #for the application? I think we have the same brakes.
    http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/ They will set you up. They carry all the popular race pads. Just let them know what caliper models you have. I don't have part numbers handy.
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    I was able to mess around with the car today. I cut an additional vent in the rear and covered it in mesh I picked up. I didn't like the FFR "mesh" as it does not allow alot of airflow.

    The light reflection on the trim plays weird with the camera- makes it look wavy. In person it looks good and straight.


    I also finished up the hatch cut out.


    Close up of aluminum grill mesh.


    I'll finish the bottom rear vent after I install the new turbo and injectors. I already started removing the old TD04 turbo.
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    Chad, what turbo did you get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Presley View Post
    Chad, what turbo did you get?
    Well, I asked "Santa" for a Blouch Dom 1.5xtr 10cm and Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors..... I have been a very good boy. haha
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    Where did you get the mesh? Is it flat perforated metal or ribbed expanded metal? That's the same pattern and size hole I've been looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechie3 View Post
    Where did you get the mesh? Is it flat perforated metal or ribbed expanded metal? That's the same pattern and size hole I've been looking for.
    Ribbed expanded aluminum. Its really light/bendable so you can use it on curved stuff if needed.

    I bough a 12x48 piece off of Ebay. ~$28 shipped. (search for grill mesh)
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    Is that the honeycomb or diamond?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nkw8181 View Post
    Is that the honeycomb or diamond?
    Its more Honeycomb than Diamond.
    Last edited by C.Plavan; 12-23-2014 at 11:00 AM. Reason: No Coffee yet.
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    Well something showed up early!





    I also went and picked up a sheet of aluminum (.060) to make my fuel cell firewall. I grabbed a ton of poster board to make the template.

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    Post Xmas update.

    I removed the TD04 without much hassle. But when trying to install the DOM 1.5, since it is bigger, it will require a little more work to get in. When trying to install it, it hits the shock tower brace. I may try and remove the up pipe, or the studs first. If that does not work, I will have to remove the shock tower brace/ wing mount.

    Moral of the story, if you plan on upgrading the turbo, do it sooner than later.
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    Wow, I'm surprised a stock-location turbo won't clear the brace. That brace is REALLY in the way. Would be nice if FFR re-designed it at some point to give better clearance Clarence.

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    Funny cause my dom 1.5 ts fit better than the stock vf37 ts
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    Quote Originally Posted by metalmaker12 View Post
    Funny cause my dom 1.5 ts fit better than the stock vf37 ts
    Did you remove up pipe first? Or just throw it on?
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    Let me know if you decide to part with the shock tower brace and wing mount. I liked the way you had it laid out and would be easier to not rebuild it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metros View Post
    Let me know if you decide to part with the shock tower brace and wing mount. I liked the way you had it laid out and would be easier to not rebuild it.
    It just hits when installing, I just loosened everything up (Rear shock mount, removed shock bolts, removed rear wing mount bolts, drilled out rivets for body on shock brace, etc) and I can get turbo on. It's just a PITA to have to do all that to get a new turbo on. It doesn't interfere once its on the up pipe studs.
    Now I'm running into a different problem I need some help on.

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    Last edited by C.Plavan; 12-28-2014 at 07:30 PM.
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    Alright- I got the turbo installed with some help from this forum (Thanks!). I'm just clueless with turbos and this is my 1st time messing with them.


    Next is replacing the injectors. It shouldn't be too hard, but I'm sure I will run into some issue. Murphey's Law and all.
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    You will love the turbo. We are here to help/hinder or both. Bring on the injectors! Do you have a good fuel pump (up to the task)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scargo View Post
    You will love the turbo. We are here to help/hinder or both. Bring on the injectors! Do you have a good fuel pump (up to the task)?
    Yes- I had Fuel Safe throw a upgraded Walbro in the fuel cell.
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    Are you using the Plug and Play adapters for the ID1000's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamra View Post
    Are you using the Plug and Play adapters for the ID1000's?
    Yep. Santa brought those also.
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    This should be interesting.

    Thick Gold Chains not included.......

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    I look forward to hearing the results!
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    Good luck, stay safe!
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    Thanks- Still have 2 months until the first race. I want to test a couple more times before then.
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    Oh man, that looks like a great race!

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    My racing buddy and I started installing the Fire System today. We got the Fire pulls all figured out and routed, and started the hardline route. We are going to have 2 nozzles on the driver, one on the fuel cell, and 3 on the motor (Turbo/pass injectors, middle, driver side injectors/fuel lines). Should be pretty straight forward. I need to make some mounts for a couple of the nozzles.

    I also got the rear end wing mount/shock strut/ shocks back on. I started up the car with the new turbo to check for leaks. All good! I will probably get to the new injector install tomorrow.

    Happy New Year!
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    I got this OMP system from Pegasus. Five nozzles and 2.8 L of "Ecolife film forming foam". I don't have a clue how to route it. I see OMP is now offering it with seven nozzles.
    I am surprised that there would be nozzles directed at the driver. It would be nice if I could get some guidance on nozzle placement and, since this system is so important, routing of the tubing, placement of the tank and so on. I do know a couple of people that may know. Suggestions?
    Car's looking good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scargo View Post
    I got this OMP system from Pegasus. Five nozzles and 2.8 L of "Ecolife film forming foam". I don't have a clue how to route it. I see OMP is now offering it with seven nozzles.
    I am surprised that there would be nozzles directed at the driver. It would be nice if I could get some guidance on nozzle placement and, since this system is so important, routing of the tubing, placement of the tank and so on. I do know a couple of people that may know. Suggestions?
    Car's looking good!
    I'll take some pictures when I'm done. But you want at least one nozzle on the driver area spraying mid torso down. You don't want to be on fire either
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    I'd do one spraying on the upper rear corner of each head, one on each front each head spraying the front of the motor and back of the fuel cell and one on the side of the driver spraying from the knees to the shoulders
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    I was able to get all the new injectors in. Not too bad to install except the passenger front injector. That one was a PITA- Luckily I removed the "Green Brackets of Death" before I installed the motor.

    I also picked this bad boy up for 45% off.... I always wanted one of these to fab aluminum pieces. I added some casters with brakes so I can store it easily. This will help big time for the fuel cell firewall box I'm making.


    I am going to try and call the Tuner on Monday to make an appointment. It will probably be an all day thing since he is 3 hours away. I will need 2 race tunes, one for ST2 (around 270HP) class and one for ST1 (around 360HP) class. They are both HP/weight classes. That way, I can just pick who I want to race with if one class has a bigger field for tire contingencies.
    Last edited by C.Plavan; 01-02-2015 at 07:34 PM.
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    Nice idea on a tune for each class! Should be able to hit 360 on that dom 1.5 on 91 octane but I would bet it might be close (unless you are using race fuel in which case I think 360 would be very easy). Are you going MAF or speed density?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hindsight View Post
    Nice idea on a tune for each class! Should be able to hit 360 on that dom 1.5 on 91 octane but I would bet it might be close (unless you are using race fuel in which case I think 360 would be very easy). Are you going MAF or speed density?
    Whatever the Tuner recommends. I'm clueless with this turbo stuff . Its all a whole new world for me. I will be using a minimum 100 octane.
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    Oh, no problem making 360 at the wheels on 100 octane race gas for sure.

    MAF = Uses hot wire sensor in intake to measure mass of air in order to determine fuel needed. Also uses a vac/pressure sensor.
    Speed Density (also called MAP) - Uses only intake temp sensor and vac/pressure sensor to determine fuel needed.

    Both of course use crank position sensor, etc.

    I think MAP would be better for your racing application but that's just me. Will be interested in what the tuner says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Plavan View Post
    I will be using a minimum 100 octane.
    Curious, what's the max available? 110?
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    I never thought of keeping my options open as far as class goes. Cool.
    My tuner did SD. I think that's probably where you are heading.
    I forget your engine specs but 400 should be easy with 100 octane. Perhaps even 93. I'm doing 400 at all four wheels in my STi with stock cams, but it's a DAVCS motor. Blouch 2.5 Dominator XTR with small turbine side.

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