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Thread: Frank818 -1993 VW VR6 Turbo donor- Build Thread

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    lolll I know it looks funny, some may also think inappropriate, but when you check the specs of these things you quickly understand that the membrane is very sensitive to any air pressure change. It was very easy to find TDC and when I double checked with a stick on the piston, I barely needed to move it.
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    Cool build thread...haven't been able to get through to the end yet. Will keep going through it later tonight when it's quiet around here. I left off on page 11, right around when you bought your welder..lol I'm sure at this stage that seems like ages ago. Very nice car! Sub'd

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    Quote Originally Posted by mia65cobra View Post
    Cool build thread...haven't been able to get through to the end yet. Will keep going through it later tonight when it's quiet around here. I left off on page 11, right around when you bought your welder..lol I'm sure at this stage that seems like ages ago. Very nice car! Sub'd
    Thanks for that!

    Yes the welder I bought is ages ago in my head. loll I guess you'll read this once you get to page 40. loll
    So much happened since the welder, very bad stuff and then very good stuff in the end, so make sure to run up to page 40.
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    818 racing stories

    On a different note, how about a story of a 1400kg+ carbon brakes Porsche GT3 RS 3.6 (415bhp?) vs a 890kg WRX 818S?

    There is a small track in Montreal where for a couple of years the best lap time was owned by a Porsche GT3 RS with semi-slick tires.

    The one and only 818S registered in QC tried to beat that time using a 3.90FD and Goodrich KDW tires. Pumping about 350whp. Didn't work.
    Changed to Yoko ADVAN Neova AD08 R (like mines) and... beat the time by .06!!!!

    HAIL TO THE KING 818!!!!!!!!! (and yoko tires) Who knew an 818 could beat an 911... an 911 GT3... an 911 GT3 RS... an 911 GT3 RS with semi-slick!!!!
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    Official Bulid time 3077h, now at 3200, in inspection process

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    That's pretty awesome. I'm a big Porsche fan...I have an 03 Turbo. Love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank818 View Post
    On a different note, how about a story of a 1400kg+ carbon brakes Porsche GT3 RS 3.6 (415bhp?) vs a 890kg WRX 818S?

    There is a small track in Montreal where for a couple of years the best lap time was owned by a Porsche GT3 RS with semi-slick tires.

    The one and only 818S registered in QC tried to beat that time using a 3.90FD and Goodrich KDW tires. Pumping about 350whp. Didn't work.
    Changed to Yoko ADVAN Neova AD08 R (like mines) and... beat the time by .06!!!!

    HAIL TO THE KING 818!!!!!!!!! (and yoko tires) Who knew an 818 could beat an 911... an 911 GT3... an 911 GT3 RS... an 911 GT3 RS with semi-slick!!!!

    Frank, here are some more stats........
    you started of FFR forum.....Jun 2013

    4935 posts later
    3200+ hours working on the car
    .....your car looks awesome.... that must feel good
    you've had your first frustrating track day... Post #1482 and got a taste of the handling.... that feels good
    solving the problems that come up.... that's rewarding.....

    I can't tell you how it feels to drive it for two weeks straight.... you will have to experience it yourself.....
    ......just wait till you can drive it on the street..... blow by lesser cars.... blow by wannabee cars... blow by high performance cars.
    Best a GT3 RS??!!! Awesome.
    Your right foot will not cooperate.... it will always wants to push.....

    .... the feeling of satisfaction..... that you planned this car.... built this car.... is irreplaceable.......
    you will have fun just driving... cruising.....I can't say any more......
    ......... It is worth it!!!!
    I am amazed at your patience.
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    Absolutely true Harley, there are no other words to say, tnx.
    Frank
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    Cylinder Leak down tests completed.

    105k km OEM internals engine
    1992-2002 NA
    2002-2006 7.5psi SC
    2006-onwards 18psi turbo

    Never beaten the engine, always kept it in a controlled climate (temps and humidity).

    Tests performed when engine cold. Can't do it when warm as I need to put my face on the turbo in order to over reach the crank bolt to turn the engine.
    All tests where repeated 3 to 5 times and all numbers came in within about 5%. The below are averages.

    Loss:
    Cyl1 = 22%
    Cyl2 = 26%
    Cyl3 = 30%
    Cyl4 = 13%
    Cyl5 = 26%
    Cyl6 = 15%

    I was a bit wrong in my previous understanding. This is what I gathered:

    Normal new and very good condition engine when cold between 1-10%
    Good engine but keep an eye on things between 10-20%
    Max difference between 2 cylinders 10-15%, debatable, but numbers should be consistent
    Max leak per cylinder 30%, requires maintenance then.

    So yeah, the engine is not in a very good condition. Specially that the numbers are not consistent at all. None of the cylinders are in very good condition and only 2 are in OK condition. One is way out.
    All the leaks where coming out of the crankcase.


    I'll try to get the engine rebuilt this winter, I should know next week on that.
    If I do, then 500-550whp for next Spring.
    Frank
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    Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
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    Official Bulid time 3077h, now at 3200, in inspection process

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    VR6 Build Phase 2 - Engine rebuild for 500whp

    This project has turned to a different path.

    After the disappointing and alarming leak down results, it's time for an internal upgrade. There is no way I can drive a full summer under full boost with these numbers.

    This will be completed for Spring 2018, assuming I pass inspection in 2017.

    I will probably only drive the car 45mins in 2017, 100% under 3500rpm. Then I get it opened.


    All the parts will be good for 800whp, but my AWIC chokes around 500 (easy to change though, it's just the core), my axles it's unclear maybe 700 according to DSS, maybe 300 due to axle angles (I've never boosted the car yet!!!), maybe still 700 too, no one knows cuz no one has even seen such step angles on the drive shafts. My gearbox, 600.

    So 500whp or roughly 575bhp will be what I'll be driving next Spring, assuming nothing outside the engine blows up. I don't think anyone has reached that much yet on this forum, but I don't think I'll be driving with that much power. Someone I know who's driven 5k km (and lots of drag) on it yet is pretty sure the front end will lift up under 500whp. He's using the same tires I am with even less traction than I have. Anyway, I have a boost controller so I can decide to boost in increments (by RPM) which mimics a SC or so. Less prone to huge kicks in the back.

    Some of you know the VR6 typically revs up to 7000rpm with a few modified parts. I could rev up to 8500!!! But the consensus seems to be anything past 8200 on these hydraulic lifters is non-sense. I'll stick with 7500 or 8000, just to get more power at the top, would look cool on a dyno sheet and then I de-tune for street driving.


    Oh and guys, apparently ID01050x (formerly ID1000) injectors are the best, both for WRX and VR6. They even provide a better idle than my BOSCH EV14 550cc.

    A lot of money again! But it has nothing to do with the 818 build itself. If I don't invest that money, then I pay quite some money to replace my existing parts with same parts and no change to engine reliability. I want to increase engine reliability, not necessarily power. On the dyno yes lolll, but on the road I don't know, I've not driven it yet. Reliability is important though.

    For the WV guys around if you want to know what parts I have in mind, just ask.



    500whp and 1050kg wet, that's Veyron territory.
    Frank
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    I thought building a car was the highest achievement possible.

    I guess I was wrong.

    Frank
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    Official Bulid time 3077h, now at 3200, in inspection process

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    Awesome! Thanks Frank.
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    Hey Frank, I haven't been on the forums lately and just caught up on your thread. Man that car looks sick! Almost makes me want to go blue now. Sorry to hear about the engine needing a rebuild, I know the feeling, but fingers crossed you get to drive it a little after registration. Keep up the good work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian818 View Post
    I haven't been on the forums lately
    Yeah, we noticed that. lolll You back, now? Cool.

    No worries on the engine, I knew one day it'd happen and as said when you are on the dyno, you get to know EVERY little thing that is not optimal about the engine. The good news is the season is almost over, I'm actually happy I found that out now rather than in May!! But I do need to register in 2017, I'll get crazy if I can't.

    Yeah I love the car, I stare at it often, there no angles I don't like, which is pretty rare on a "normal" car.



    I start to think I will dump the door pulls, they are totally useless! It feels weird to close the door grabbing it at the front. It's a lot cooler and easier to put your hand on top of the door, middle or back, and pull it closed.
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    Worst nightmare ever

    I told you guys this project would never end. I told you Harley waiting for 1 month+ to get your VIN was a very short time and no need to stress out.

    Anyone in QC wanting to build a kitcar should read this.


    For the police stolen parts authentication I opened my case on Aug 9th. I've been told by the police lady it takes 3-4 weeks before I get a call from the inspector to take appointment. This is twice the longest time I've heard so far in QC.
    After 4 weeks, last week, I called the police and left the msg to call me back to tell me where's my case, if it's lost or something. Never got a freakin call back. Thank you.
    Today I went in person to the police station. They gave me the name and number of the one and only Sargent doing this kind of job. The wait is more like 3-4 months (read below) according to the guy I spoke with. After I get that appointment, if I pass, then I am authorised to go to inspection. Then I need to pass inspection and then I wait until I get my VIN. See that Harley?

    I called the Sargent, left msg to call back. He called back this afternoon!!! Wow. And told me I've been misled (again), it's 1 to 12 months of wait and it's not him doing that, it's someone else. He gave me the guy's name and told me to call him back on Oct 2nd if I don't have a call before.

    Thing is, they don't work on cases like mine cuz they are the lowest priority. When the guy is scratching his behind at work cuz he's done with all the criminal cases, then he works on cases like mine. Could be 1 month, could be 12 months (the guy I spoke with this afternoon has seen up to 8 months on a snowmobile).

    Even if I get my appointment in Oct, there is almost no chance I can pass inspection and get my VIN before the winter. I also have 2 months to pass inspection after I get stamped for stolen parts. Longer and I have to start again the stolen parts process (another 1 to 12 months!). So I'll have to start all over next Spring and cross my fingers I will be stamped before Oct 2018. What a rip off!

    But the worst part is what the Sargent told me if they find a stolen part! The only one that could be stolen is my gearbox. He said "your car gets IMMEDIATELY impounded and WE get the gearbox out, at YOUR costs, and send the car over to a special team investigating ALL parts one by one and THEN we ship the car back to you". What he didn't say is that the car will be broken, body panels broken, wrap all scratched, other parts broken... they don't care! They are vicious animals extracting the stolen parts as fast as possible, at my own cost.

    Then I get the car back, will need to pay a lot to fix the broken parts, buy a new 15k gearbox WITH VIN and spend one year getting everything back together and 1 to 12 months waiting for the stolen parts stamp again. And then I still need to pass inspection. If I fail and need to fix things, more time, more efforts, more money, more hassles, etc... If my gearbox is stolen, this car would have no chance to be plated before 2019. And do you think I will love the car then after spending half of the money on the inspection process, representing more than any 818 I know?

    THIS PROCESS IS INSANE!!!!!!

    What are my solutions... I cannot buy an intermediate casing with serial number and VIN, the DMV already has my current serial. They won't match, they will ask me invoices, they will see I bought an "intermediate casing", they will ask for invoices about all the other parts (90% of the gearbox) and I won't have any cuz I'd re-use the current parts of the potentially stolen gearbox.

    Only possibility is to buy right now a full G50 gearbox (long or short gearbox should not matter) with VIN (SUPER DUPER RARE!!!!!!), swap the intermediate casings so there won't be a part color mismatch and paint the entire casing or simply re-use all the best quality internals inside the new casing, and use that invoice for the stolen parts and DMV. I can make up a reason for full gearbox change at the DMV. And sell the 2nd gearbox to lower my investment.


    If you build in QC, have serials and VINs on everything you can, with TRIPLE BULLETPROOF and nuclear warhead proof invoices and other proofs. If not, then DON'T BUILD!!
    Also, do not live on Montreal's South Shore, it's probably the worst place in QC, the other places I've heard about give you an appointment within 2 weeks. And no, they don't want to transfer my case to a different district.

    Everything is making my build complex, hard, disappointing which makes me very sad and feel unfair. I know I built something awesome, but the only reason I built it cannot be reached so far, and the car is fully done since Aug 5th. What a nightmare...
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    Frank
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    Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017

    Official Bulid time 3077h, now at 3200, in inspection process

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    Frank, I have an idea: Come in down to 'murica.

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    Frank,
    Ship it to BC. Register it in BC, drive it home.......cost a lot less.....take a lot less time.... still sunny out here...
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    Frank,

    Why are you so concerned your gearbox is stolen? And if so why are you posting it here which will obviously be admissible in court?

    I will have to read your post and see where you sourced this thing from but it sounds like you are just stressing due to the Sergeants tough talking.

    Like you said yourself, these guys have bigger fish to fry, they are going after car thieves and stolen parts rings on a daily basis.

    I honestly don't think they are going to issue a warrant, come to your house, impound your car, strip it and hand you the bill and a pile of parts. When they could just ask for it back.

    The good guys don't go through this process, and you are going through all the right steps line by line.

    Once they see your other stack of receipts I doubt there will be an issue. Even worst case, and your gearbox is stolen (which again I highly doubt) wouldn't you think they'd want to work up the food chain to who sold it to you?

    https://www.vertexauto.com/ offers rebuilt transmissions, and deal internationally, i'm sure they can shed some light on your issue, or send you a new transmission with a receipt to "launder" your trans if needed.




    Either way I feel for you man, we are in permit hell with our house right now. Bureaucracy sucks dick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harley818 View Post
    Frank,
    Ship it to BC. Register it in BC, drive it home.......cost a lot less.....take a lot less time.... still sunny out here...
    Can't do. If registered outside QC I have to pass inspection when I bring it back. What I'm not 100% sure is if I need to pass stolen parts, I could check. Do you need a residential address that is yours (mine) in order to plate in BC? Or I could use any address?
    Frank
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    Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
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    Official Bulid time 3077h, now at 3200, in inspection process

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    Quote Originally Posted by longislandwrx View Post
    Why are you so concerned your gearbox is stolen?
    Because I have no proof it is not. I legally bought it but I don't know if the guy my guy got it from was legit. If the serial # has been tagged as stolen in the DMV's database and I have no way to find out, unless I have a VIN, which I can't find for this gearbox.

    Quote Originally Posted by longislandwrx View Post
    I honestly don't think they are going to issue a warrant, come to your house, impound your car, strip it and hand you the bill and a pile of parts. When they could just ask for it back.
    No what I meant is that if I take an appointment with the inspector and while he looks at all my invoices, serial for the engine, etc., he will take the serial of the gearbox and scan his database to see it's been flagged as stolen. If yes, they impound the car right away and strip out the gearbox.


    Quote Originally Posted by longislandwrx View Post
    The good guys don't go through this process, and you are going through all the right steps line by line.
    Yes but I have no proof the gearbox is not stolen. If I had bought a donor that would be different. But here I bought a gearbox on a shelf that came from a junkyard that doesn't exist anymore.


    Quote Originally Posted by longislandwrx View Post
    Once they see your other stack of receipts I doubt there will be an issue.
    Won't change anything, they do scan all engine VINs/serials and gearbox VINs/serials. Any part with a VIN or serial they check. Same thing happened to the guy in QC I know registered his 818, they scanned the gearbox and engine.

    Quote Originally Posted by longislandwrx View Post
    Even worst case, and your gearbox is stolen (which again I highly doubt) wouldn't you think they'd want to work up the food chain to who sold it to you?
    They might but they still out the box. I was talking with a friend tower a month ago and same nightmare happened to someone he knows who built a Harley-Davidson with different parts. They stripped his fork and cut the manifold in the process.

    Quote Originally Posted by longislandwrx View Post
    https://www.vertexauto.com/ offers rebuilt transmissions, and deal internationally, i'm sure they can shed some light on your issue, or send you a new transmission with a receipt to "launder" your trans if needed.
    Tnx man I'll take a look.


    Quote Originally Posted by longislandwrx View Post
    Bureaucracy sucks dick.
    Right on. Sorry about your house.
    Frank
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    Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
    Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017

    Official Bulid time 3077h, now at 3200, in inspection process

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    Frank what a major PITA. You have my sympathy.

    Talk about a Mobius strip of bureaucracy. Especially galling since you purchased the transmission in good faith from your vendor. The morally correct action if it comes up on a stolen list would be to impound all the stock of the vendor. But unfortunately reality doesn't follow my (modest) proposals.

    You've managed to persevere through everything else you've encountered on this build; I have faith you will make it through this also.
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    Anyone can build any car with money and patience. Both of which I start to be very low on.

    I got caught on my build due to not being smart enough about 100% of the parts, but then again most of the info I found about this process was either misleading or incomplete. If I had talked with the inspector before buying the G50, I would have bought a different one, with VIN. But how could I knew that when the info was misleading and I didn't know. This is all my fault cuz I was ignorant about this complex process and most of it, how it works when you have a stolen part (I don't know if mine is). Then you understand the consequences and risk.


    HARLEY, I checked for importing a Canadian registered car into QC, they don't mention anything about the police stamp. But they also don't mention how it works if the owner is both the seller and buyer. They certainly do some checks to ensure the owner doesn't try to skip steps and find loop holes. Since I don't have an address outside QC, my best guess on this would be to sell to someone outside QC, in Canada, get him register under his name and I buy it back from him after. I need official invoice of the sale between the guy and me and some DMV papers from the other Province.
    Before I do that, which is a lot of problems too, I need to be 100% sure I won't need the police stamp. That I can ask.
    But then how do I work out the rest, selling car, getting it registered by someone else, buying it back, etc. Nothing in the process can fail cuz the car would be way out of my range.
    Frank
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    Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
    Tracked May 27/July 26, 2017

    Official Bulid time 3077h, now at 3200, in inspection process

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank818 View Post
    Can't do. If registered outside QC I have to pass inspection when I bring it back. What I'm not 100% sure is if I need to pass stolen parts, I could check. Do you need a residential address that is yours (mine) in order to plate in BC? Or I could use any address?
    Yes you would need a BC address to plate the car.

    hmm .... lets see.... 450+ hp......you could store it at my house..... just leave the keys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank818 View Post
    Anyone can build any car with money and patience. Both of which I start to be very low on.

    I got caught on my build due to not being smart enough about 100% of the parts, but then again most of the info I found about this process was either misleading or incomplete. If I had talked with the inspector before buying the G50, I would have bought a different one, with VIN. But how could I knew that when the info was misleading and I didn't know. This is all my fault cuz I was ignorant about this complex process and most of it, how it works when you have a stolen part (I don't know if mine is). Then you understand the consequences and risk.


    HARLEY, I checked for importing a Canadian registered car into QC, they don't mention anything about the police stamp. But they also don't mention how it works if the owner is both the seller and buyer. They certainly do some checks to ensure the owner doesn't try to skip steps and find loop holes. Since I don't have an address outside QC, my best guess on this would be to sell to someone outside QC, in Canada, get him register under his name and I buy it back from him after. I need official invoice of the sale between the guy and me and some DMV papers from the other Province.
    Before I do that, which is a lot of problems too, I need to be 100% sure I won't need the police stamp. That I can ask.
    But then how do I work out the rest, selling car, getting it registered by someone else, buying it back, etc. Nothing in the process can fail cuz the car would be way out of my range.

    Frank, I think you would have to pay Sales tax on the complete value selling into BC, then QC sales tax going the other way.... not small amounts by the time you are done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harley818 View Post
    hmm .... lets see.... 450+ hp......you could store it at my house..... just leave the keys.
    My car has no keys, one less thing to leave at your house.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harley818 View Post
    Frank, I think you would have to pay Sales tax on the complete value selling into BC, then QC sales tax going the other way.... not small amounts by the time you are done
    Oh certainly. And I was just thinking about that, if BC requires to see the car in order to plate it, it means I need to pay to ship it there and then pay again to ship it back. + the taxes along the way, no chance all this could be under 11k. Wereas if I buy a full G50 with VIN for say 15k and sell my current one 4k (will sell easily at that price), I'm off with 11k to prevent any issues with the cops.

    BC's too far.
    ON not good, need emission tests, would need to redesign totally my exhaust, use a different muffler, add a cat, tune the engine, etc. In the end it will cost a lot too and will definately take more time.

    I think my quickest, safest and "cheapest" way is to buy another G50 and this time with a VIN, as sad as it looks. Only uncertainty is how long would it take me to find a full G50 with right specs and VIN...
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    Ok it's too late.

    A miracle happened, I just got off the phone with the inspector who will look at my parts! He just called. He told me he's available on the 19th at 3PM and it should take 30-60mins, he only wants to look at the major parts like engine and gearbox.

    I had to think quickly. I have an opportunity to clear this out EARLIER than expected, still giving me the chance to register the car in 2017.
    On the other hand, maybe next Tuesday is the last time I will see the car for a while, if the gearbox is stolen.

    So I took the HUGE risk. I accepted the appointment on the 19th. If it's stolen and they break the car while removing the gearbox, well I'll spend years fixing this and installing a new gearbox. I've had so many issues during this build, why not adding a few more major ones if it gets there, eh....
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    Frank, that's a beautiful show by Infinity. Here's to good luck on the 19th. We're all pulling for you.
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    Frank,

    This might be the sign your luck is changing for the better. Surely there is a silver lining in your cloud somewhere. Lord knows you deserve one after all you've gone through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank818 View Post
    So I took the HUGE risk. I accepted the appointment on the 19th. If it's stolen and they break the car while removing the gearbox, well I'll spend years fixing this and installing a new gearbox. I've had so many issues during this build, why not adding a few more major ones if it gets there, eh....
    No nuts no glory. Good luck dude.
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    Hey! Tomorrow is the day! The day you register that monster. Best of luck!

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    I wish you were right Speedy, but I'm still far from there.

    Tuesday afternoon is the police check. To make sure my gearbox was not reported stolen years before I legally bought it. Unfortunately enough, it's a check I cannot do without the police itself.

    If I pass that check, then I'm off for mechanical inspection most probably before end of October. For which I have more chances to fail than the police check...
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    Frank, don't offer any info unless asked. Then just enough to answer the question. Respectful, but careful.
    My fingers are crossed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZPete View Post
    Frank, don't offer any info unless asked.
    what pete said. short and sweet
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    30mins.

    Guy took pix of the car, seats, cluster and many parts. Pix of gearbox serial and engine serial as well as FFR's VIN on the frame.

    Said he needs to scan database and see if and what he finds out on both serials. He said normally by this Friday night 11hPM I should get a call back saying "relax all is good" or "you're in deep crap, a police towing is on its way to impound your car"

    In the end, I gotta go what I do best for the past almost 4 years : wait.
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    Looking forward to hearing you got the "relax all is good" call
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    Fingers crossed for you Frank
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