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    I have Cusco engine and Trans mounts, the stud on the engine mounts is offset (I think about 3/8") not sure if the group N or OE mounts are offset the same but the offset does effect the engine location.
    Something else to look at.

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    I just double checked mine and my engine is about an inch lower than yours. My wastegate is in the same position, and if it was higher it would also hit the crossbar.
    Something is setting your engine position higher. I also have the Group N mounts for the engine and trans.
    Yours is an early frame - could it be slightly different?
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    You can also slide the engine left-right. If it is slid toward the passenger side, it would be raised up on that side due to the angle of the mounts. Try moving it slightly toward the driver side (or centered if you are not currently) and see if that helps. The transmission mount will let you twist left to right more easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamra View Post
    You can also slide the engine left-right. If it is slid toward the passenger side, it would be raised up on that side due to the angle of the mounts. Try moving it slightly toward the driver side (or centered if you are not currently) and see if that helps. The transmission mount will let you twist left to right more easily.
    I will look at that tonight and see how centered it is on the moto mount hole
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    So the motor mounts are mounted at an equal distance on each side (engine is level). So that does not seem to be the problem. Both mounts are almost at the bottom (there is about a 1/4 inch of the slot left).

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    It's been a while as racing season has started and you have to race with what is already prepared.

    So installed the front splash panels and the front splitter aluminum along with running a hard line from front radiator to rear for bleeding air and re routed the oil cooler lines. Ordered a Speedhut dual oil pressure and oil temperature gauge for dash. Ordered longer shift cables as the ones from Wayne's shifter kit were tight and not a real good fit for my routing.
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    So more time has passed and some progress has been made, I received my 2 speedhut gauges (2 dual function gauges, (1) oil pressure/oil temp, (2) Water Temp/fuel pressure) these have been wired in.

    I welded a 1/8npt bung into the aluminum radiator tube coming out of the engine on the passengers side for water temp, will get oil temp form the remote filter mount, oil pressure is from galley plug near turbo and fuel pressure is on fuel line going to engine.

    Most everything is together, minor time consuming crap is left and a lot of clean up, few more weeks (if the Challenge car stays running) and should be complete enough to go-cart and do some testing.
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    I think we all have a good understanding of all the little 10 minute jobs (at least 3 hours each) Congratulation on getting close to go karting..

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    Getting closer ! All the cleco were removed and all aluminum is riveted, I'm on the last 100 mile journey now !
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    Have you cut your rear bumper yet for your mesh for the exhaust? I'm still thinking of either cutting and rewelding it or just trying to bend it upwards more to be centered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechie3 View Post
    Have you cut your rear bumper yet for your mesh for the exhaust? I'm still thinking of either cutting and rewelding it or just trying to bend it upwards more to be centered.
    I have not done this yet, not sure what I will do, I will most likely cut and reweld
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    Installed the Speedhut gauges (dual display), Oil Pressure/Oil Temperature and Water Temperature/Fuel Pressure

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    I was hoping to see you and the car at The Ridge this last weekend. You missed some great rain racing. I've got good video of mowing grass and 4 wheeling a couple of times!
    A couple of nice cars got banged up, luckily wet weather accidents tend to be lower impact. Except one open wheel guy who hit the tire wall and didn't take his hands off the steering wheel first.....

    All in all the racing was fun though. I hope you have your 818 ready for next season!
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    Tony, are you the one with a muffler tip centered at the top rear through a nice mesh probably designed by Shane?

    If yes do you have a pic? I searched through but couldn't find one. I absolutely need such a mesh and I have to check with Shane if he can do another one, I'm pretty sure I already asked but damn that too I cannot find, so I'm confused...
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    I can't find the pic of the actual one, but there is this:

    http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...terest-in-this

    The problem is that FFRSpec's exhaust, like mine, sits ~2" too low to be centered. The exhaust AJW put on their car is centered, but I haven't seen others that are. That's why we're talking about bending it or cutting and rewelding.
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    Yeah I contacted Shane and it's all sorted out, it was him.
    However I can't understand why I couldn't find the thread you mention. I checked all the threads I was subscribed to. Oh well, I guess I went too fast again.
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    As an experiment with Shane here is the one for the AJ Performance exhaust (off centered), not sure that I will use it or if I will center the exhaust and get Shane to cut another one since ha has the template now

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    That doesn't look too bad. I just love how AJW just shrugged their shoulders of their problem.
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    Had a few hours to do some of the 10 min jobs that take hours, so I fit the windshield mount as there was cutting to the the roll cage of the R (or whatever its called) and the fuel cell fill neck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFRSpec72 View Post
    Had a few hours to do some of the 10 min jobs that take hours, so I fit the windshield mount as there was cutting to the the roll cage of the R (or whatever its called) and the fuel cell fill neck.

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    Looking good Tony,
    Are you going to make an attempt to gokart before you finish the car?
    Why the onboard battery charger?
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    Hey Tony, any chance you could do me a huge favor and tell me how much distance there is between the front of that cowl and the rear of that upper cross bar? Yellow line below:


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    I've got about 4 3/4".... sorry for the poor pic, my cell phone camera is shot.

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    Perfect thank you so much!!

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    Mine was 5 1/2" on the dot. Looks like we have wiggle room either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_n_Cincy View Post
    Looking good Tony,
    Are you going to make an attempt to gokart before you finish the car?
    Why the onboard battery charger?
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    He has wipers switches and turn signals too.........
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    Thx Chad, good to know.

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    Mine is almost 5.5 inches, more like 5-3/8

    I have the onboard charger as I always forget to charge and since this is a little awkward to get to I thought I would eat the extra 10oz this thing weighs and mount it and have the plug stick out the front of the car, like a block heater. It also goes nicely with the wipers, lights, ac, electric seats, etc.
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    It's been a while since I have had some time to woirk on 818. I gave up overthinking this an decided to go with what I had for exhaust (AJW Exhaust) so installed the exhaust, rear exhaust louvers (from VRaptor), rear lights, mounted the rear back panel to frame

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    I think it looks really good! Will it be painted or how will it fit into a color scheme for the car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scargo View Post
    I think it looks really good! Will it be painted or how will it fit into a color scheme for the car?
    Not sure yet, the car will be the opposite colors of my challenge car, so body will be guardsman blue and the hood and trunk will be wimbledon white, so will have to see if it will look better blue to match the body or white to stand out. I may even polish it, will have to consult the painter.
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    Spent some more time today, I refitted most of the body, more fine tuning as it goes to painter 1st week of March. I fitted the rear deck lids and decided just to use the hood pins no hinges for now. I may switch to mini latches but that should be no real big deal to switch. I'm using the VRaptor rear deck mounts, fully adjustable as they support the body and also the hood pins. I have more fitting to do but so far i'm happy with the gaps with the rear panels/lids, the height of the various panels still has a long way to go before they are acceptable.

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    Spent some more time today, way too much time as I was working on the F$%^%$ headlights, I sure hope they improved these when they redesigned the frontend. We ll the fenders and front are now aligned and fully secured. I have to work on the hood gaps but that is minor. I'm satisfied with the headlights, they solid and minimal gaps. The headlights and turn signals all work now. I bonded studs to the body to hold the headlights, rear of door and where the fender meets the body.

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    Headlight fit looks great. Hope mine turn out as nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFRSpec72 View Post
    Spent some more time today, way too much time as I was working on the F$%^%$ headlights, I sure hope they improved these when they redesigned the frontend... I bonded studs to the body to hold the headlights, rear of door and where the fender meets the body.
    Even though I have an "R", I think the headlight area is an abomination. Flimsy stuff and not well executed. Has to be fixed by us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scargo View Post
    Even though I have an "R", I think the headlight area is an abomination. Flimsy stuff and not well executed. Has to be fixed by us.
    Totally agree, as getting an acceptable solid mount with proper gaps and fit took me almost 2 days of grinding, mounting, etc. what total F up on the headlights. Then I read the fine print in the manual where I have to supply the high beam bulbs, another F up.
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    Ditto....2 days of cutting, grinding, now we have to re-inforce the whole thing.

    You going to be ready for the season??

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    Quote Originally Posted by RetroRacing View Post
    Ditto....2 days of cutting, grinding, now we have to re-inforce the whole thing.

    You going to be ready for the season??
    I should be ready by end of April, I may not make the opener in Portland but will be at Pacific Raceways, how about you all ?
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    Trying for testing prior to the Ridge endure, then do the endure. Running the RX3 in the same race so we will save some towing costs.
    Need to get it wired for start, wing and wire....wing and wire and some plumbing and the shift linkage and some body work and some.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RetroRacing View Post
    Trying for testing prior to the Ridge endure, then do the endure. Running the RX3 in the same race so we will save some towing costs.
    Need to get it wired for start, wing and wire....wing and wire and some plumbing and the shift linkage and some body work and some.....
    It's the ... "and some" that is killing me.
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    The center drive 818R is heading to Pacific Raceways for testing on Saturday, should be fun, should also be able to get oil/water/engine temp info. This one is running the Element Tuning dry sump.

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