FFRSpec72 818R Build Seattle WA

[Mitch Wright]

Car look great Tony.

What did tire sizes did you end up with?

I am looking at BFG R1S's, trying to find some take offs to check fit. BFG offers 235/40X17 and 265/35X18, the actual size is just a few mm wider then the Hoosier 225 and 255.
I remember Bob is running a bit larger tires.

[FFRSpec72]

Car look great Tony.

What did tire sizes did you end up with?

I am looking at BFG R1S's, trying to find some take offs to check fit. BFG offers 235/40X17 and 265/35X18, the actual size is just a few mm wider then the Hoosier 225 and 255.
I remember Bob is running a bit larger tires.

Front R7 225/40/17
Rear R7 255/35/18

[Mechie3]

Is it hitting the small flange where you put two bolts in? I had to trim those too. If that's all that you're hitting then I'll probably get the same size tires you have.

[FFRSpec72]

Is it hitting the small flange where you put two bolts in? I had to trim those too. If that's all that you're hitting then I'll probably get the same size tires you have.

Yes that is where it is hitting, so I have to trim some off that flange area.

[Sgt.Gator]

Tony will you have the 818 at Pacific next weekend? I'll be there for the T&T Friday and racing Sat-Sun. I'm hoping to see your ride!

[Scargo]

Dang. I am flying out of Seattle on Friday. Would have loved to see some cars on the track.

[Rotorcraft]

Tony will you have the 818 at Pacific next weekend? I'll be there for the T&T Friday and racing Sat-Sun. I'm hoping to see your ride!

Yeah are you??

[FFRSpec72]

I'm on travel so I will not be at Pacific, I'm also going to be at Spokane for the Festival of Speed so will miss the 3rd ICSSC race at PIR, but I will be back at Spokane for the June ICSSC 17/18/19 race.

[FFRSpec72]

So off travel for a few weeks, so had a little time to spend on the car, I started and almost finished the alignment, I hit a few odd things, as the left (driver) rear trailing arm hits the tire (tire is rubbing) but the right (passenger) side is fine, not sure what is up there. I can only get a negative 1.8 camber on the front left side but the front right side I can get 2.5. The rear I have set to negative 2.5 on both sides. Thanks to Leo for the help and his jig, as it bolts on the frame and very quickly I can get an alignment done (that is after a few hours of positioning the jig and drilling the mounting holes, etc.

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[Frank818]

the right rear trailing arm hits the tire (tire is rubbing) but the left side is fine, not sure what is up there.

Awesome! I have the same issue! Posted this week on my build thread, fresh as new. I do not know yet how to give it proper clearance (5mm for inspection in my case) without having the tire too much outside the fender or not enough thread on the camber link.

I can only get a negative 1.8 camber on the front right side but the front left side I can get 2.5.

Relatively the same for me, there is one side I can get quite more camber than the other.

[FFRSpec72]

Alignment is done

So had time to work on the side vents that will direct the air to the intercooler vis some brake duct hose and a box around the IC, so will see how this all works soon but should supply some additional air to the IC.

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[FFRSpec72]

Running down the punch list

Installed the jack points on the car, got tired of finding the right place to jack up the car

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Also installed the center mirror, had to get this high to see properly

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Installed the Canards

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[Hindsight]

Great idea on the jack points!

[RetroRacing]

the jack point work great, no need to ever jack up the front, it all lifts together. Nice job!

[Mitch Wright]

Looking good Tony

[Sgt.Gator]

Looks like your ready for Spokane!

[FFRSpec72]

Looks like your ready for Spokane!

Nope, still more on the punch list, also not a nice track to break a low to the ground car in on ....

[RetroRacing]

Good point, I don't feel so bad now.....

[FFRSpec72]

I'm concerned about the ride height and the clearance between the front fender and tire, running 225/40/17 and 400lbs springs and I don't have much clearance, I can see some potential problems here. I have about 1/4" clearance.

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[RetroRacing]

What ride height?

[FFRSpec72]

What ride height?

3.25 in front and 3.75 in rear

[RetroRacing]

Now you have me checking ours......

[FFRSpec72]

Ultimate accomplishment, I installed the gas cap last night !

[Pearldrummer7]

Ultimate accomplishment, I installed the gas cap last night !

Sweet! Was it hard? /s

I like the jack point. I'm installing canards tonight; any advice? Just rivets or a glue as well?

[FFRSpec72]

Sweet! Was it hard? /s

I like the jack point. I'm installing canards tonight; any advice? Just rivets or a glue as well?

I used nut plates (1/4-28) and used 3 of them per canard, feels pretty sturdy, except now I keep running into them working on the car.;

[FFRSpec72]

One more item off the checklist, I installed my NRG Shift knob

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[FFRSpec72]

Had the car out for a test, the limited clearance between tire and fender is NOT going to work, thought I was going to take the front end off when I hit some big bumps. Not sure what I will do now as I need more CLEARANCE !!!!


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[Kurk818]

Looks awesome Tony! Congrats. How did it drive other than the rubbing?

Check for rubber transfer on the fiberglass. A lot of my rubbing issues were the tabs at the bumper/fender connection.

[RetroRacing]

Looks Great!! let me know your final ride height once you set it.

[FFRSpec72]

Looks awesome Tony! Congrats. How did it drive other than the rubbing?

Check for rubber transfer on the fiberglass. A lot of my rubbing issues were the tabs at the bumper/fender connection.

The top of the fender is almost sitting on tire, so when I turn and hit a bump the fender is about to tear off, there is less than 1/4". I'm not sure what to do I have 400lbs springs now, may go to 500 and raise ride height close to 4" and see if that helps. not sure I can raise the front bumper at all as it looks like it is mounted in the right spots.

[C.Plavan]

The top of the fender is almost sitting on tire, so when I turn and hit a bump the fender is about to tear off, there is less than 1/4". I'm not sure what to do I have 400lbs springs now, may go to 500 and raise ride height close to 4" and see if that helps. not sure I can raise the front bumper at all as it looks like it is mounted in the right spots.

I'm not sure of your offset or tire size, but I had to raise it, maximize camber (-2.5+), and trim the $hit out of the front fenders.

FFR really did a bad job on the original fenders/ front wheel spacing. They have since tried to fix that issue with the newly designed fenders which are wider and also got rid of the tab at the critical rubbing areas.

[FFRSpec72]

I'm not sure of your offset or tire size, but I had to raise it, maximize camber (-2.5+), and trim the $hit out of the front fenders.

FFR really did a bad job on the original fenders/ front wheel spacing. They have since tried to fix that issue with the newly designed fenders which are wider and also got rid of the tab at the critical rubbing areas.

Running the FFR rims - 17 x 7.5 with 40mm offset and 225-40-17 tires. I thought about taking the lip off the fender but had not seen anyone had to do that yet, as that may be a last resort option

[C.Plavan]

Running the FFR rims - 17 x 7.5 with 40mm offset and 225-40-17 tires. I thought about taking the lip off the fender but had not seen anyone had to do that yet, as that may be a last resort option

I think my offset was around 35 or 33 but 17x8". I just trimmed the mounting tab almost all off. I had to move the bolts from the bumper/fender way forward. Just raise it up and trim- you should be fine.

I had the same tire size in front (Hoosiers). Once I did the above, only brand new tires would rub on the fender lip the first few laps- then self clearance.

[FFRSpec72]

I think my offset was around 35 or 33 but 17x8". I just trimmed the mounting tab almost all off. I had to move the bolts from the bumper/fender way forward. Just raise it up and trim- you should be fine.

I had the same tire size in front (Hoosiers). Once I did the above, only brand new tires would rub on the fender lip the first few laps- then self clearance.

Are you talking about raising the fender off the tabs here in this picture ?

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[FFRSpec72]

I resolved the clearance issue but I don['t like the solution I used until I dig in a little more, I used the S ride height shock tower holes, the ride height is the same 3.5" front and 3.7r in rear. I will have to ask Jim if this will cause any issues.

[C.Plavan]

Are you talking about raising the fender off the tabs here in this picture ?

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I was just talking about raising the car with the coilovers- Otherwise it defeats the purpose of the lower ride height of the R. I kept it at R height, and just raised it enough to stop the rubbing.

[FFRSpec72]

Just ordered some Carbotech XP8 and XP10 pads for the Wilwood Dynopro Calipers, these should do the job.

[Bob_n_Cincy]

I resolved the clearance issue but I don['t like the solution I used until I dig in a little more, I used the S ride height shock tower holes, the ride height is the same 3.5" front and 3.7r in rear. I will have to ask Jim if this will cause any issues.

Tony,
I'm confused.
If you moved the shocks to the S holes and then adjusted the coil-overs to the same ride height. What did you gain?
Bob

[FFRSpec72]

Tony,
I'm confused.
If you moved the shocks to the S holes and then adjusted the coil-overs to the same ride height. What did you gain?
Bob

I gained some tire to fender clearance, not sure why, but I'm at same ride height with about a 1/2 more clearance between tire and fender lip

[Frank818]

Just ordered some Carbotech XP8 and XP10 pads for the Wilwood Dynopro Calipers, these should do the job.

Pads are strictly race intended?