FFRSpec72 818R Build Seattle WA

[FFRSpec72]

Getting prepared for my 818R build (at the start of the new year) and I have a couple of questions:

1. Anyone have a packing list that comes with the 818R so I can understand what I'm actually getting?
2. Anyone have a definitive list of parts that I will need, as my storage space is tight so I can't store a donor, I will have to contract with a local yard for an incoming WRX (in the NW these are common cars)?
3. Anyone have a list of parts that are better bought new then from a donor, such as radiator, lower control arms, etc?

[C.Plavan]

With an 818R- you really don't need a donor. I didn't buy one, and I'm doing great. Added bonus is no labor/time to remove parts, no storage of donor. Just buy parts you need off Ebay or internet (Steering rack, knuckle steering column, front and rear knuckles, new wildwood brakes, a rebuilt race motor or an STI JDM motor, Legacy GT 5 speed trans (I have one I may part with), new aluminum LCA's, Adjustable rear lateral links (you only need 2 adjustable really), new radiator/fan kit. and a bunch of metric hardware (a lot fine thread). You will be golden.

[FFRSpec72]

With an 818R- you really don't need a donor.

I was hoping that was the case, and thus my questions as I need some definitive list of parts that I need to acquire, you have given me a start with the parts you listed here. I think one of the main issues will be the wire harness and management systems, I know there are a few companies that make these but not sure how suited these are to the 818R build, as I need sensors/gauge, lights and engine management

longislandwrx, I sent you a PM with my email address, thanks much !

[tmac_mtm]

For the wiring harness, talk to Wayne Presley at VCP. He's marketing a harness paired with an Electromotive ECU that should be just what you're looking for. Links up to an AIM or other racing data acquisition system.

[longislandwrx]

PM me your email address, I'll scan the packing list.

[Sgt.Gator]

Subscribed! And there's a PM for you...

[FFRSpec72]

Just started collecting parts, found a 2002 WRX, so have most of the parts except the LCA (going with STI), wire harness (not sure what I'm going to do there yet).

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[Kurk818]

Looking great. Im in the Puyallup area and will be building an 818S. Delivery scheduled for Thursday/Friday this week. Woot woot!

Will definitely have to keep in touch on the builds.

[FFRSpec72]

I was just in Puyallup picking up the parts this morning.

[FFRSpec72]

I ordered my Wilwood Brake Kits, I only have $2000 to spend so was going to order the black 12" front/rear kit from FFR but found the red 12" from Autoplicity for cheaper than what FFR wanted for the black. So the I went for the Wilwood 140-9193-DR and the 140-7006-DR where just a tad over $1800 shipped.

I also ordered my Mishimoto Aluminum Performance Radiator MMRAD-WRX-01 from AutoAnything for just under $250 shipped, so the savings on the brakes pretty much paid for the new radiator.

I'm going with the StopTech brake line kit (front and rear) for just under $100 shipped form AutoAnything.

[FFRSpec72]

Will put in new wheel bearings/seals for front and rear spindles/CV, new tie rod ends, will also order new STI aluminum LCA. Will also have new bushings pressed into the rear assembly. I'm close to ordering engine and transmission. Will most likely go with a JDM EJ207 v7 engine and 5sp transmission that have 40K on them. I have still not figured out the wiring harness yet and what I need to do there.

[FFRSpec72]

I just boxed up all my wire harness (big box 18x18x20) and sent all 49lbs of it off to a service to get it dieted into something I can use, this should be an experience

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[FFRSpec72]

Had some time and got some help, finished the axels and made progress on rear suspension

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Not sure about the lateral links position for the R height, I used the upper holes on both lateral links as both are adjustable

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[Scargo]

I'm curious about the Whiteline lateral links. Are they steel or aluminum? I think I've read that Whiteline has three durometers of urethane: red, yellow and black. Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong (for color, in and of itself, means nothing).

Your bushings are their hard black (around 95A) or softer than the yellow (around 85-90A)?
Is anyone planning on using Delrin (acetal homopolymer) in the front lower arm?
Looking good BTW.

C.Plavan: But with these you can adjust camber, too!

[FFRSpec72]

I'm curious about the Whiteline lateral links. Are they steel or aluminum? I think I've read that Whiteline has three durometers of urethane: red, yellow and black. Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong (for color, in and of itself, means nothing).

So thee are steel, they have the black hard rubber

[FFRSpec72]

No additional progress this week as I'm away for 2 weeks, I have my steel floor and steel side panels at the powder coaters. My rear firewall is done along with the bending of the FFR supplied firewall. The fuel cell was to ship this week but they are still finishing this up, so hope next week its better

I will have to spend time on my challenge car when I get home as I have the engine torn down since the head gaskets went and the heads got cooked.

[FFRSpec72]

After some research and other Subaru Racers I will be going with the Godspeed AK-010 Adjustable lateral Links and the Godspeed AK-033 Trailing Arms

[Santiago]

After some research and other Subaru Racers I will be going with the Godspeed AK-010 Adjustable lateral Links and the Godspeed AK-033 Trailing Arms

Tony, have you been able to find out what spherical joints they're running on these? I couldn't find much beyond "yeah, local autocross guys run them" or "I would never run them" on various forums (didn't really look long though). I run sphericals all over my Mustang, but they're all Teflon-lined spherical rod ends from very high quality manufacturers (F.K. Bearings, Aurora, etc.).

The only detail pics I saw of the Godspeed ones had no manufacturer stamps on them (and apparently they're cast), which is why I ask. Here's a shot:

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Let me know what you found/find out.

Best,
-j

[FFRSpec72]

Tony, have you been able to find out what spherical joints they're running on these?

All I can fins out is they are not the best made and made overseas, I would not use GodSpeed for any front suspension parts, but the rear lateral links and trailing arms are not wear points. I looked at the Whiteline but while they are quality not sure I can justify.

[FFRSpec72]

One step closer

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[metalmaker12]

With that engine a 2002 Usdm wrx harness can be used.i

[Gale K]

Alright Tony!!!

[FFRSpec72]

With that engine a 2002 Usdm wrx harness can be used.i

Yea, I think that that is the conclusion that I came to as I think I will need the following:

USDM WRX Front wiring harness
JDM Engine wiring harness
USDM WRX Bulkhead wiring harness
USDM WRX Instrument panel wiring harness
USDM WRX Rear wiring harness
USDM WRX Fuel tank cord

[FFRSpec72]

I just ordered the SPT Aluminum LCA, new spindle seals, bearing, clips, etc. for front and rear, new tie ends (inner/outer) and new boots all around. I thought that Ford parts for my Spec Racer were expensive but these seem to be higher! I looked around and went with Somerset Subaru as their price was better than most. Thanks to Adam (Somerset Subaru) for working with me to get all the right parts.

INNER TIE ROD - (34160FE010),
OUTER TIE ROD - (34161SA001),
BEARING FRONT - (28316FE000),
BEARING SEAL FRONT OUTER - (28035TA040),
BEARING SEAL FRONT INNER- (28015AA080),
REAR WHEEL BEARING - (28016AA030),
HUB SEAL REAR OUTER - (28015AA090),
HUB SEAL REAR 1 - (28015AA100),
HUB SEAL REAR 2 - (28015AA110),
FRONT OUTER CV BOOT - (28323FE001),
REAR INNER CV BOOT - (28423FE000)

[FFRSpec72]

Just ordered the ARP 100-7716 Extended wheel studs, so I can complete all the spindle/knuckle work

[Kurk818]

Did you happen to get in contact with Pacific Import Auto recently inquiring about your 818 project? Mike from PIA mentioned someone from Kirkland called him about an 818 build.

[FFRSpec72]

Did you happen to get in contact with Pacific Import Auto recently inquiring about your 818 project? Mike from PIA mentioned someone from Kirkland called him about an 818 build.

Nope, just been talking to the Subaru guys I race with about the parts that they use. Bearings seem to be the major breakage point. I have been talking to Pat's Auto Sport in Auburn about pressing in my bearings.

[Kurk818]

Nope, just been talking to the Subaru guys I race with about the parts that they use. Bearings seem to be the major breakage point. I have been talking to Pat's Auto Sport in Auburn about pressing in my bearings.

Im using a 2006 STI as a donor. Ive checked the bearings and seals and all of them check out in great shape. With the STI bearings being larger than the WRX im not concerned about changing them out now.

btw... mine is being delivered by Stewert next week on Wednesday the 29th!

[DruOdil]

So then you would just need to buy a new set of tools.

[Brando]

Do you think that will still be the case given the 818 weight is nearly cut in half from its donor counterpart? I didn't press in new bearings but am reconsidering

[FFRSpec72]

Do you think that will still be the case given the 818 weight is nearly cut in half from its donor counterpart? I didn't press in new bearings but am reconsidering

I hope not but the Subaru guys were going through front bearings about every 3rd race weekend, one had a serious crash into wall due to a bearing failure, but being half the weight I don't think there will be a problem, but I'm going with new bearings and seals

[FFRSpec72]

The Wilwood brake kits (front and rear) came from Autoplicity today, all intact and great price, saved like $500 over FFR price.


Engine/transmission on the way, JDM EJ207v7 and JDM 5sp (TY754VBBAA) with 4.444 final drive.

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So still have to get new clutch/pressure plate and flywheel and timing belt kit w/water pump, looking at GATES Part # TCKWP328A {#WPK43513} 7 Components (1 Belt, 1 Hydraulic Tensioner, 4 Idlers, 1 Water Pump) PowerGrip Premium OE Timing Belt Component Kit W/Water Pump

[Scargo]

It probably won't make any difference to how your stock engine cools, but the Subaru water pump PN 21111AA026 performs better than the Gates pump or others with the "open paddle wheel" design as is the pump on the right in the picture.
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[FFRSpec72]

It probably won't make any difference to how your stock engine cools, but the Subaru water pump PN 21111AA026 performs better than the Gates pump or others with the "open paddle wheel" design as is the pump on the right in the picture.

Thanks, I will look into this as I believe in the most cooling potential I can get for the track. I assume it fits a JDM 207 engine?

[FFRSpec72]

So was about to purchase the GodSpeed lateral rear links and then a deal on the Whiteline Lateral rear Links came up making the Whiteline just a $100 more so I went with the Whiteline Lateral rear links, I will keep the stock trailing arms and put in new Whiteline bushings front and rear. So hopefully I'm all set on suspension parts for now and I can get to rebuilding the spindles and replace all the bushings and tie rod ends.

W61383 - Whiteline Rear Trailing Arm Bushings - Rear Position
W61381A - Whiteline Front Lower Trailing Arm Bushings
KTA109 - Whiteline Control Arms Rear Control Arms 4-Piece Kit

[metalmaker12]

The 2005 up rear Sti hubs are slightly different and you will have to modifiy the FFR supplied brackets. Also I am pretty sure the spline is different (larger) and the FFR supplied axles prob won't work. But all of this can be worked out and the Sti stuff is much stronger so go with it.

[FFRSpec72]

The rear Sti hubs are slightly different and you will have to modifiy the FFR supplied brackets. Also I am pretty sure the spline is different (larger) and the FFR supplied axles prob won't work. But all of this can be worked out and the Sti stuff is much stronger so go with it.

Agree, all the 04 Sti on the track up here have swapped over to the later STi spindles, and last season did not have any issues. I don't expect any issues with the WRX spindles on the 818 since the weight is not that much, I will have to see how the cross weights play out when I'm done.

[Kurk818]

The rear Sti hubs are slightly different and you will have to modifiy the FFR supplied brackets. Also I am pretty sure the spline is different (larger) and the FFR supplied axles prob won't work. But all of this can be worked out and the Sti stuff is much stronger so go with it.

Im aware of theses issues but i think its worth the effort. Im using the 6 speed as well. Thats a challenge im going to let FRR sort out.

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Im aware of theses issues but i think its worth the effort. Im using the 6 speed as well. Thats a challenge im going to let FRR sort out.

Here is a picture of a center Diff Lock kit for a 6mt transmission.
Bob
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[FFRSpec72]

My 2000lb per rack (8000lb total), Gladiator shelf came in today, so all set to accept the boxes when they deliver the 818

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