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Thread: 818 Progress Report: Year One of Production

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    818 Progress Report: Year One of Production


    The Factory Five 818R race development program has been at full throttle this year. The goal is to make the 818 chassis the most track-capable street car in our line-up and to continue developing the platform for new products.

    The 818 story continues to grow and the car is definitely earning its place in the Factory Five line-up. A little more than a year after production began, I am impressed with the number and scope of accomplishments that the newest Factory Five has racked up.

    The team continues to work hard to make the platform stronger, faster, and offer more build options. Work has begun in earnest on a much anticipated removable hard top. Inspired by community-based CAD designs, we are making the coupe top removable, and importantly, retro-fittable to all 818S models.

    Overseas, the 818 is bringing the Factory Five experience to more people in more countries. Right hand drive cars have been shipped to the UK, Australia, and the far east. As designed, the 818 is the most exported chassis kit we build. It is exciting to see Factory Five communities growing in different countries around the world.

    Speaking of community, the 818 has a HUGE number of online builds where people are documenting their individual builds and experience. The customer stories are awe-inspiring. This year’s SEMA Show will highlight some of the variety of 818 builds and the flexibility of this exciting new platform. This is a huge e-mail, but it cannot include ALL of the great stories out there, so apologies to those amazing cars I’ve missed.

    I am very proud of the entire team and the tremendous amount of work that has been done. The last update I sent out was in March, so this one is a bit longer than most. Hope you enjoy the update.

    818 PRODUCTION NEARS 300!

    As of August 26th, 2014, chassis production reached 271 units! It has been a great year so far, and the team has ramped up production in a controlled and quality-oriented way. We are currently manufacturing one 818 chassis per day, and have decided to keep production at this level. The foundation of investing in technology that was laid before production began has paid huge dividends in quality and productivity with the 818. The new laser cutting machine has reduced inventory and increased through-put with high-quality, and our investing in molding technology has produced the best panels to date.



    818 1ST AT NOPI NATIONALS 2014 & PROFILED IN UK COMPLETE KIT CAR



    Tom won first place in the Street Kit Car division at this year’s NOPI Nationals with his 818S!
    Factory Five customer Tom W. earned first place in the Street Kit Car division at the 2014 NOPI Nationals. His 818 was also featured in the most recent issue of Complete Kit Car in England. The 818 is a perfect match for the British market as it is right hand drive, uses running gear already in Britain, and is priced to keep VAT taxes low.

    The article in CKC profiles Tom’s beautiful orange 818S and gives a quick overview on the design process of the car followed by the story of Tom’s build. Click here to read more.

    OVER 120 CUSTOMER ONLINE BUILDS!



    The 818 was developed, tested, and marketed along with the online Factory Five community, so it should be no surprise that there are a few customer builds documented on The Factory Five Forum.

    The real surprise is the amazing number and variety of builds, over 120 customer builds! These builds showcase some real innovation and remarkable craftsmanship.

    Check out some of these builds like customer Gary N. from Hawaii whose stunning black 818S build photos always contain a hula girl doll! Click here to read the build stories on The Factory Five Forum.

    Pictures: Factory Five customer Gary N. documents his 818S build onthe Factory Five Forum. Click here to read the thread.

    FACTORY FIVE 818 RUNS 56.28 SECONDS AT LIME ROCK!

    It has been a busy race development summer for the 818R. In this video, Factory Five Challenge Series National Champion John George runs 56.28 seconds. For anyone who has run at Lime Rock, this is an extremely fast time.


    Climb onboard the 818R and run 56 seconds around Lime Rock Raceway.
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    Fast lap at VIR: 818R runs 2:04 in traffic!
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    Customer Brandon S. runs HARD at streets of Willow Springs
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    GRASSROOTS MOTORSPORTS 818 BUILD PART 7 RELEASED



    The October issue of Grassroots Motorsports features part 7 of their excellent 818S build series articles. In this article, the car built at Very Cool Parts ends up on the ground and running. Click here to read more.

    FACTORY FIVE 818 AT THE WHITE HOUSE!

    The accolades keep coming for the Factory Five 818! Simon Hauger and the kids from West Philly High School displayed their school-built Factory Five 818 at The White House in June as part of an event sponsored by President Obama’s administration entitled “Maker Faire”. The event highlighted DIY and modern technology that enables small companies, individuals, and enthusiasts to design and build innovative and exciting products.


    Simon Hauger (standing center-left) and the entire West Philly High School tech team with the 100 MPG car they built. Read the full story here.

    SEMA 2014 PREVIEW



    We’ve got big plans for SEMA 2014 and the 818! We will be bringing three cars, all very different. Our 818 street car will share space with the newest 818R (which is being race developed this Summer and Fall), and the exciting electric 818e built by Erik Hansen and EV West.

    Todd B. and Keith P. from Six Star Cars are building an 818R for Spectre Performance. A number of customer cars are under consideration for Featured Vehicle locations.

    Our goal this year at SEMA is to show the variety of build types that this new car can be.

    Pictured: SEMA-bound 818R by Six Star Cars. Photo: The Factory Five Forum.

    30 DAY BUILD VIDEO/REALITY TV



    The goal was simple and clear. Build a Factory Five 818R for under $30,000 in 30 days and run under 2 minutes at Grassroots Motorsports Ultimate Track Car Challenge held at Virginia International Raceway.

    What would normally be a huge challenge would be made even more difficult by the presence of a film crew and a production company hell bent on producing the first episode of a reality TV series.

    We built the car in 30 days, and came in under budget, but the results at UTCC fell short with a blown head gasket and a heart broken team. We re-grouped and are heading back to the track in a month and plan on arriving at SEMA with a sub-2-minute 818R. More on this shortly.

    ERIK H. & EV WEST 818 ELECTRIC



    In our last update, we told you about Factory Five Erik Hansen and his work building a battery-electric-powered 818S. Erik and EV West have since completed the car and successfully tested it on the street and at some local Southern California tracks.

    Autoblog.com covered the car as a driving chassis (without body) and evaluated the handling characteristics and power of the 818E. Click here to read that story.

    Autoblog Green covered a race day at Laguna Seca with alternate-powered vehicles and mentioned the now complete 818E. Click here to read that story.
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    ENGINEERING UPGRADES AND NEW 818 PARTS

    In the last e-mail update, I asked a question about the interest in a removable hard top for the 818. The project was delayed by the launch of our 289 FIA/USRRC replica, and now our shaping bay is focusing on this high-interest hard top. While the hard top project is the largest of the 818 engineering challenges (and will likely take the most time), here is an update on the many other upgrades and changes we’ve been working on for the 818 platform.


    Inspired by concept renders of an 818 coupe, the R&D team is working on a removable hard top that will work with the current 818S design. Above concept by Factory Five Forum member VMan using actual Factory Five 818S studio photo.

    ALL-NEW MOLDS & RED GEL COAT NOW STANDARD


    Factory Five Ops Dir. Nate Johnson and Molding Chief Kyle Barros.

    The original goal of the 818 was to provide thermo-formed plastic panels that would not require bodywork. That project was one of the few design goals that was not ready at product launch. The car launched with gel-coat white bodies and now we are changing to red.

    Just last month, we’ve finished all-new molds and changed the gel-coat color to red. This has accomplished a better finish panel with fewer defects and has gotten us closer to our goal of a paint-free car.

    818S WIPER KIT IN PRODUCTION



    The 818S wiper kit is now in production. The wiper kit costs $225 and will be on our parts catalog shortly.

    The kit uses the Subaru wiper motor/transmission and works with the stock wiper controls found of the factory Subaru turn signal stalk.

    The kit includes wiper arms, blades, mounts and mounting hardware, as well as a two-piece drop-in fiberglass tray for the trailing edge of the hood. The factory hood will be trimmed on those cars using wipers.

    NEW CARBON FIBER PARTS & PROCESS



    Up to now, optional 818 carbon fiber pieces have been made by hand by our molding department in-house. We have had complaints about the finish (it’s not perfect), so we have invested in new tooling and a new outside carbon fiber molding supplier.

    The new tools enable pre-preg carbon cloth to be used and autoclaved to result in an absolutely PERFECT carbon fiber part.

    Click here to check out the parts catalog page.

    NEW AERO FRONT CANARDS



    Part of the 818R development program involved increasing downforce in the front and rear of the car. Up front, we designed a larger carbon front splitter and these cool new carbon canards.

    These carbon fiber canards cost $199 for the pair and were designed for the 818R, but can be used on the street as well. Recommended to be used with rear wing for balanced downforce.

    Click here to check out the parts catalog page.

    ALL-NEW PADDED INTERIOR



    The standard 818 interior panels are nice, but these new optional padded interior door panels and dash do not require any upholstery work, are easy to install, look great, and cost $550 as an option.

    This interior set comes in black and adds a rich finish to an 818S build. Left: New padded dash comes with door panels and is available in black.

    Click here to check out the parts catalog page.

    NEW HARNESS BAR MOUNT




    Sales of the track-focused 818R have been good. However, many 818S customers are realizing that these cars are exceptional open track and autocross cars.

    We’ve added a harness bar option to the 818S kit for customers who are taking their 818S models to the track. The harness bar costs $85 and comes powdercoated in black. It is designed to mount to the upper harness section.

    Click here to check out the parts catalog page.
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    SOON TO BE RELEASED

    At the request of customers and as a result of our race development and continuing work on the street car platform, we are almost finished working on several optional part packages. A new 6-speed transmission adapter kit is being developed. It will come with 2-wheel drive conversion coupling for use with STi 6-speed transmissions, 2004-2014. This was tested in our 818R. Not everyone is wild about the factory shifter, and we have tested and are almost ready to sell a super cool Billet aluminum shifter that provides improved precision and a shorter throw. Last, but not least, our shaping bay is busy with our new removable hard top design. These parts will all be available by SEMA 2014, except for the hard top (estimate six months).


    The 818 is at the very head waters of an exciting new design, but even now, the cars are running extremely fast lap times and delivering REAL street driving manners. The success of the 818 is a pure function of our dedication to continuing to test and develop the car as well as the efforts of so many amazing and creative customers who have taken this design to new levels.
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    Awesome news Dave! I cannot wait to get home from Africa to get my kit ordered!! Maybe I can line it up to be #300! Thanks for a great car!

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    OOOOOOOOOOOK. Now I'm saving.

    Hardtop =A useable car here in the south of Aotearoa. Can't wait to see it and buy my kit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Smith View Post
    SOON TO BE RELEASED

    At the request of customers and as a result of our race development and continuing work on the street car platform, we are almost finished working on several optional part packages. A new 6-speed transmission adapter kit is being developed. It will come with 2-wheel drive conversion coupling for use with STi 6-speed transmissions, 2004-2014. This was tested in our 818R. Not everyone is wild about the factory shifter, and we have tested and are almost ready to sell a super cool Billet aluminum shifter that provides improved precision and a shorter throw. Last, but not least, our shaping bay is busy with our new removable hard top design. These parts will all be available by SEMA 2014, except for the hard top (estimate six months).


    The 818 is at the very head waters of an exciting new design, but even now, the cars are running extremely fast lap times and delivering REAL street driving manners. The success of the 818 is a pure function of our dedication to continuing to test and develop the car as well as the efforts of so many amazing and creative customers who have taken this design to new levels.
    How about the trunk? Are you working on an option?

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    The guys in R&D are also working on developing a trunk for the 818. We'll have more details on that as well shortly.
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    Awesome News! Building my kit currently, will definitely be buying the hardtop when it's available! Looking forward to the race development and what you guys produce when you have more than 30 days. Keep up the good work.

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    Now SEMA will be even better!
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    Soooooo, please tell me the hard top will be available in both red AND white?

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    well done
    all this sounds great
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    I saw the prototype of the trunk on the red car @ FFR. It was way better than I expected, much more room than I thought they would be able to get. Although it appeared that if you run your exhaust straight back through the mesh that you would not be able to use it. Wipers also looked like a very clean install and not like an afterthought, pictures did not do it justice. I will most likely be in for both once they are ready.

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    Congrats on the great success so far and looking forward to the improvements coming down the pipeline!

    As a random thought - that blue 818/ghosted image with the frame overlaid (2nd picture in the original post) would make a cool first poster for the 818, since you still need to add some to the Factory Five parts website...hint hint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billjr212 View Post
    As a random thought - that blue 818/ghosted image with the frame overlaid (2nd picture in the original post) would make a cool first poster for the 818, since you still need to add some to the Factory Five parts website...hint hint.

    I think the scale is off between the two pictures. The front wheel location looks pushed further forward than where the lower control arm sits.

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    Great write up. You have a great team Dave and it's very apparent that they love what they do and believe in your vision. I can't think of any one better motivator to deliver the best products in any market. I'm just glad it's this one!

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    I'm impressed with the manner in which FFR has stuck to the plan and delivered the product as promised. I like the following of the "drum beat" or a measured pace to meet the demand for the long haul. One 818 per day is pretty unbelievable for this soon out of the gate. Congrats, Dave and FFR!!!

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    SO MUCH WIN!

    I can't wait to hear more about the bodypanels.

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    oh thank goodness for wipers, having them makes it WAY easier to get an 818 street legal in VA

    also my 2 cents, the closer you can get the hardtop to Vmans design the bettter
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    Was the 56 second lap of Lime Rock in ST2 trim? Could we get some specifics on the setup of the car? Was it on slicks?
    Also, it seemed (from the video) there was only one downshift and upshift between third and fourth and that fourth was only used on the front straight. Comments?
    Is anything about the current state of the FFR car described anywhere in the forum? Something more than promo info.
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    Just got back from Madison Wisconsin (dropped off my daughter Madison to start her Freshman year at UW) and am catching up on things as usual. I was going to have Jim post the specs and parts on the red 818R that we ran at the UTCC, but this 56 sec lap time was in the old blue mule. I'll have him post the specs on both cars as they are relatively easy to replicate suspension, drivetrain, etc.. none too expensive and all commonsense. At work this morning with two customer pick-ups. Gary from Ontario is building an electric 818 and I am continuing to be amazed at the variety and creativity of builds. More after the labor day weekend.
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    Wow! love the updates!
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    The blue car was under the power to weight for ST-2 so it would have been in ST-1, but not optimized for it.
    The set-up on the Blue car is same as it was at Watkins Glen last year but I think the gearing was better for Lime Rock and the blanket on the turbo kept the intercooler temps down.

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    Love all the updates!!! Great work

    Jim,

    Heim joint control arms in the rear? Are you replacing all the rear links with heim joint links (particularly the trailing arms)? If so is there any plan to sell them? Would they be suitable for a dual purpose S model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Smith View Post
    At work this morning with two customer pick-ups. Gary from Ontario is building an electric 818 and I am continuing to be amazed at the variety and creativity of builds.
    Say what? Another one?

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    Not everyone is wild about the factory shifter, and we have tested and are almost ready to sell a super cool Billet aluminum shifter that provides improved precision and a shorter throw.
    Jim, are we talking months away ? Are we talking a lot less then the K-Tuned shifter and equal quality of the K-Tuned shifter? Are we talking better shift linkage ? Should I wait ?
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    Replaced the lower lateral links with swedged tubes and heims. The chassis is acutally set up so that if you run it at the lower height that is what works best. I wouldn't run that much solid stuff on an S though, just updating to poly bushings would be better for the street.

    Shifter is coming very soon, we have the mechanisms on order now. I don't know what the price comparo is but this one will be $399. Guaranteed exact same quality as a K-tuned because most of it is from K-tuned, not the same one I have seen other people use but this one they send us the mechanism and we add our baseplate to it, the cables and linkage stay the same with the same forward routing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Schenck View Post
    Replaced the lower lateral links with swedged tubes and heims. The chassis is acutally set up so that if you run it at the lower height that is what works best. I wouldn't run that much solid stuff on an S though, just updating to poly bushings would be better for the street.
    So how do the swedged tubes and heims actually lower the ride over some of the aftermarket lateral links since the lateral links are in a fixed position ? The shifter sounds like something I'm looking forward to since I played with the plastic one and was looking at the K-Tuned version.
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    The chassis is set up so if you run the lowered ride height in the rear there are round holes instead of slots for mounting the lateral links, and the holes are the sizes that are easy to find in heim joints. We just figured the low height setting was going to be used on the dead serious track cars that would want solid mounts, more adjustability, and no slots that could possibly allow the alignment to change on a car with loads like full slicks and aero put on the suspension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Schenck View Post
    The chassis is set up so if you run the lowered ride height in the rear there are round holes instead of slots for mounting the lateral links, and the holes are the sizes that are easy to find in heim joints. We just figured the low height setting was going to be used on the dead serious track cars that would want solid mounts, more adjustability, and no slots that could possibly allow the alignment to change on a car with loads like full slicks and aero put on the suspension.
    So I already have my lateral links (Whiteline without Heim joints) and using the lower ride height (upper holes) so I'm all set, it may have been cheaper to go with the swedged tubes and heims over the Whiteline.

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    Awesome update, it's all so exciting!

    A long time ago I heard rumors about a possible Spec 818 class in one of the big sanctioning bodies. Has there been any more discussion about that? I'd be pretty excited to build a spec car, but I'd also want something I could drive around the streets. hmmm... to build an R or S? R or S?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayai View Post
    Awesome update, it's all so exciting!

    A long time ago I heard rumors about a possible Spec 818 class in one of the big sanctioning bodies. Has there been any more discussion about that? I'd be pretty excited to build a spec car, but I'd also want something I could drive around the streets. hmmm... to build an R or S? R or S?
    Spec class within the ST-2 Class called 818 which is 8:1 weight to horse power ratio and max 8" rims, open to any type of engine, 5sp trans, open to an aero provide by FFR, Toyo RR 17" or 18" or combo tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Smith View Post
    ENGINEERING UPGRADES AND NEW 818 PARTS

    In the last e-mail update, I asked a question about the interest in a removable hard top for the 818. The project was delayed by the launch of our 289 FIA/USRRC replica, and now our shaping bay is focusing on this high-interest hard top. While the hard top project is the largest of the 818 engineering challenges (and will likely take the most time), here is an update on the many other upgrades and changes we’ve been working on for the 818 platform.


    Inspired by concept renders of an 818 coupe, the R&D team is working on a removable hard top that will work with the current 818S design. Above concept by Factory Five Forum member VMan using actual Factory Five 818S studio photo.[/url]
    Thank you Dave!

    Can't wait to see the progress.

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    Awesome news and awesome new updates and upgrades...
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    What a great kit and superior engineering! Thank you.

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    Hi Guys,

    So what's the current ETA on a kit if it was ordered today? Just curious as to the back log. I have my donor, but the wife says "finish the basement renovation before placing the order!" I better get the basement finished (can't race your basement ).

    Thanks, Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Schenck View Post
    The set-up:
    Stock 2006 engine with bigger turbo and injectors
    Re-flashed stock ECU
    Willwood 13 inch brakes all around
    Stock "R" spring and shock package
    Carbon splitter, Diffuser and APR GT300 wing
    Yokohama Advan slicks, 210 front and 240 rear
    STI six speed trans
    Larger top mounted intercooler
    Lower ride height with heim joint control arms in the rear
    Jim, for those of us planning to use a 6-speed trans, the above caught my attention. I was under the impression that the Wilwood brake options only apply to non-STi knuckles. So this leads to a few questions:

    1. Does the 6-speed conversion kit work only with non-STi WRX knuckles/hubs or can STi gear be used?
    2. Is there a Wilwood brake option that works with STi knuckles?
    3. Did the Blue-mule run 5x100 wheel bolt pattern or 5x114.3 pattern?

    Bottom line: some of us are planning on running a full compliment of STi gear. So that means those knuckles and the 114.3 bolt pattern, and I was wondering how this would square with the 6-speed parts under development.

    Best,
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    I will echo Santiago. I have my six-speed and the one piece FFR sells for it. I have all STi rear. May or may not use Wilwood brakes. I'd like to know what it takes to make it work and when will we get the six-speed full conversion kit?

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