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    New suspension design taken off an hypercar

    This is a very interesting design!
    I know there's a guy here fitting a Corvette suspension, at least the front, into his 818. Haven't heard for a long while, but is there anyone willing to try a crazy setup like in the video?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8js55jE2da0
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    My friend held a patent on that for many years. He let it lapse and look what happened. Patent listing https://extwww.patent.gov.uk/p-ipsum...mber/GB2314306 Patent content http://www.willyrose.co.uk/gb2314306.php He ran it on a radical for a couple of years and proved that it worked extremely well. I have a copy of the actual patent but couldn't find it on line.
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    Wow amazing! How does your friend feel to know his suspension went on the most extreme McLaren ever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank818 View Post
    Wow amazing! How does your friend feel to know his suspension went on the most extreme McLaren ever?
    He's OK with it. He's currently playing with gyrocopter stuff. One of those creative people who gets bored easily. LOL.
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    I sure would! Love my 3 link, 5 link...... whatever it is but that would be beyond cool. Hey Mike: have any illustrations to share?

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    The geometry of that suspension system would be very difficult to retrofit, and I don't know if the better handling characteristics would be worth the effort. My '86 corvette suspension is simple comparatively speaking, but still had its challenges.

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    I agree it would be a lot of work but it's doable. I'll see if I can find my rough packaging designs from more than 10 years back. For the front it packages quite well behind the front frame X with pushrods. Craig Mapstone did an opposed shock pushrod actuated version without the diagonal shock many years back that looked great http://www.ffcars.com/forums/35-auto...g-em-year.html . For the rear it would fit flat under the trunk floor with bell cranks and pushrods. Not easy and you would have to do a lot of tuning and testing find the best damping and spring rates but hey, that's all part of the fun. If you like that kind of tear your hair out fun
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    https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...lained-feature

    I initially thought this thread was about that suspension design I linked above. I didn't think suspension advances could change so much in 6 years.

    Amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...lained-feature

    I initially thought this thread was about that suspension design I linked above. I didn't think suspension advances could change so much in 6 years.

    Amazing.

    Martin
    That's fundamentally what F1 cars were running until it was banned this year. In F1 it was called FRIC. Front rear interconnected. The goal on an F1 car was to keep the aero platform (ride height) stable. You should spend some time studying race car suspensions. There are some very clever designs out there. Shock absorbers too. Much of it is kept quite secret but stuff of a few years back can be found on line.
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