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    Wow that's nice! Hopefully the ceramic will help!
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    Looking great!
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    Great work on the wiring harness. I'll looking into redoing mine soon. Do you have a list of which fuse/relays you are keeping and/or removing? It would really help me narrow some things down. Especially the SBF fuses cause I have no idea what they do, if they're needed, or if I can replace them with normal mini fuses.

    looking to use THIS for everything as it has 10 relay positions (hope it's enough) and 40 mini fuses. Any advice as far as which terminals I should order for it or any other advice is greatly appreciated.
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    A Short Blow Fuse (SBF) is fuse that is designed to burn up quickly when too much current (more than the rated value) is passed through it. During normal operation a SBF is viewed as a closed/shorted wire. It is a required safety device that will sacrifice itself or disconnect power when something goes wrong in the wiring. Nobody wants to see the effect of a battery turning a bundle of wires into a flaming ball of death. I replaced the main 80Amp SBF with this http://www.waytekwire.com/item/46691...rcuit-Breaker/ Conveniently placed I can manually open this fuse to disconnect power which I'll use as an additional anti-theft device.

    You can use your 10 relay power block (call them to find out what pins, rubber seals and crimper your need), I only needed 8 mini-relays since I reused the donor's main,fuel-pump, and high beam relays.

    Check out my google drive folder below for the parts I ordered and schematics (2nd page for fuses and relays) I used for wiring.

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    Donor was a 2003 Wagon.

    *Dont forget the brackets for the power block, sold individually you need 2.
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    Thanks I'll start more homework tonight haha

    So did you put the entire system through the 80amp circuit breaker and disregard all the other SBF that come after it and just leave it as going through a normal mini fuse?

    Also Is yours a 80amp because that's what a 2003 wagon uses? Mine is a 2006 and the diagram shows a 120amp main SBF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zodiac View Post
    Thanks I'll start more homework tonight haha

    So did you put the entire system through the 80amp circuit breaker and disregard all the other SBF that come after it and just leave it as going through a normal mini fuse?

    Also Is yours a 80amp because that's what a 2003 wagon uses? Mine is a 2006 and the diagram shows a 120amp main SBF.
    I dont think it is critical to use SBF I just used the 80 amp fuse as the main and then a number of normal mini fuses. 80amps came from the 2003 wagon diagram.
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    Finally made some progress after getting back from my trip. I've installed a different door handle since I didn't like the donor's. This took much longer than I had hoped due to the curvature of the plastic inset and I still have the other side to do.



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    Nice!
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    Nice work. I'm looking for an upgraded door handle so your timing is good.
    "This took much longer than I had hoped . . . "
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    Over the last two weekends I managed to pull the turbo, trany and clutch. Installed ID1000's, vf39, Wayne's rear trailing arms and lateral links. Unfortunately the vf39 does not work with Craig's heat shield and has very little clearance from the shock bar. I'm currently midway through the Perrin aos install. Still need to install a clutch and the awic system before it will run again.



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    Nice, what springs are those? The ones off the R setup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchStone View Post
    Unfortunately the vf39 does not work with Craig's heat shield and has very little clearance from the shock bar.
    Hmm...a couple of people are running non stock turbos with that heatshield. Don't recall off hand if one of them is a VF39 though.
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    I originally had the VF39 which required the notching on the crossbar to not interfere with the wastegate actuator. Your heat shield would not work with a VF39.

    After the installation of the Blouch 2.5 Dom, your shield fit with minor modification.

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    Thanks Kurk. You were one of the people I was thinking of. Surprised the 39 is larger package wise than the Dom. I'll make a note of this on my site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 07FIREBLADE View Post
    Nice, what springs are those? The ones off the R setup?
    Eibach 2.5" x 8" #550

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurk818 View Post
    I originally had the VF39 which required the notching on the crossbar to not interfere with the wastegate actuator. Your heat shield would not work with a VF39.

    After the installation of the Blouch 2.5 Dom, your shield fit with minor modification.
    How much clearance to the crossbar is required?
    818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
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    I thought it was more of the waste gate that caused issues not the body of the turbo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchStone View Post
    How much clearance to the crossbar is required?
    This is the blouch


    And vf39

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    While on the subject of turbo clearances, does anyone know if the stock-location turbos (from the WRX IHI to the VF39 to the Dom 1.5 XTR etc) all have their outlet flange in EXACTLY the same spot? I'm curious because I'm very close to building my exhaust and while I wills use the stock turbo at first, I will upgrade later - probably to a larger stock location and I don't want to have to alter the exhaust system I build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hindsight View Post
    While on the subject of turbo clearances, does anyone know if the stock-location turbos (from the WRX IHI to the VF39 to the Dom 1.5 XTR etc) all have their outlet flange in EXACTLY the same spot? I'm curious because I'm very close to building my exhaust and while I wills use the stock turbo at first, I will upgrade later - probably to a larger stock location and I don't want to have to alter the exhaust system I build.
    They are all considered bolt on turbos with no modification required. The bottom turbo support brace is reused in all cases that I'm aware of, thus not changing the positioning.

    Anyone else know something different?

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    Thx, I figured it would be very close. Am hoping it's exact.

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    It's more or less exact (to within casting tolerances). BTW, my TD06 18G clears the cross bar with no modification but uses different water and oil fittings than stock.

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    The VF39 has poor clearance to the shock bar at the wastegate actuator and if using the heat shield it hits the housing.

    Left TD04; Right VF39 notice the difference in the housing size and wastegate actuator location.



    Since I wanted to keep using the heat shield and increase clearance I made several modifications to the heat shield and shock bar.


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    That's how you do it!
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    Pretty cool!
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    Very nice build

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    Clocked AWIC Install

    Used a hose clamp and a new razor blade to make very clean cuts.







    Needed a slight angle to mate properly with the hose.





    I'm not sure what to do about this. Maybe nothing, after visual inspection the airflow does not appear to be restricted. Clocking the turbo any further would require heavy modifications to the wastegate.



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    Also worked with Nolan to reinforce the hood with carbon fiber and vinyl resin. Currently waiting for better weather conditions before application.

    818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
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    Short test run:
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    I wouldn't worry about airflow in that section just potential for wear. I'd keep an eye on it to make sure it isn't vibrating.

    I like your hose cutting trick. So simple yet not so obvious.
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    Sounds mean!
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    I think I like what you're doing here....look forward to seeing more of it. (re: the hood reinforcement)
    Last edited by ben1272; 12-03-2015 at 08:17 PM. Reason: clarification

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    Mostly done, will see how much this stiffens the hood tomorrow. If I were to do it again I'd stay away from the complicated crosses.



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    Looks nice!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchStone View Post
    Mostly done, will see how much this stiffens the hood tomorrow. If I were to do it again I'd stay away from the complicated crosses.

    JJ,
    Looks strong.
    Did you leave it dry on the table or on the car?
    My rear deck gets flexed by the hood pins to pull the rear corners down.
    Does yours sit on the car with out flexing?
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    Last edited by Bob_n_Cincy; 12-06-2015 at 12:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_n_Cincy View Post
    Did you leave it dry on the table or on the car?
    My rear deck gets flexed by the hood pins to pull the rear corners down.
    Does yours sit on the car with out flexing?
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    I flex it a little to get the corners down. I did support the corners while it was drying. Also with the way the supports were added I should still be able to bend the corners with latches slightly.
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    Looks really good..

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    I'm happy! These are such cool parts...Thanks Craig!







    Last edited by TouchStone; 12-08-2015 at 10:08 AM. Reason: added a picture
    818S Chassis #288 2.5L 323hp
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    . Glad you like them. I like the removable installation too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechie3 View Post
    . Glad you like them. I like the removable installation too.
    I wish I would have done that! Nice job
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