insurance guy 818

[NBinSD]

I found Harley818's posts about mounting the body very helpful: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...y-s-818S/page5

[07FIREBLADE]

Are those washers flat on the back. I wished I new the link to those before I bought a bunch of finish washers from HD and McMaster Carr awhile ago.

[NBinSD]

Yeah they're flat on the back. I used them all around the underside to mount the fiberglass and in a few other places.

underside.jpg

[insurance guy]

Thanks to all for the help.
Did you cut all the excess along the underside?
i have about 2 " if i drill and mount into square frame tube

[NBinSD]

I didn't cut the underside but mine overhung the frame by 0 - 1/2".

[07FIREBLADE]

Oh I like that a lot. The finish washers have nothing on that for surface area. More money wasted oh well time to place a new order.

[insurance guy]

How did you get a good gap all along the hump trunk? Mine starts out fine and enlarges to about 1/2"
I cannot seem to get it closer.

[NBinSD]

You mean the gap between the side sails and the hump engine cover? I couldn't get that gap close until I bought mechie's rear fender brace.

Unfortunately one of my side sails came out of the mold poorly and they slapped a wad of filler on it and gel coated it so it's 0 clearance at the front and perfect a few inches back. I'm going to have to sand it flat and re glass the area.

[insurance guy]

thanks for all the help with the body
I clamped each side sail, then I put the hump trunk on and set the gaps. I used gorilla tape across the back of the sails. When the gap was set I taped everything and attached the rear bumper, then I drilled and attached the rear bumper with cleco's. I drilled the fiberglass around the transmission bolts, will go back with a 2" hole saw.
Then I drilled the already existent ffr shipping holes of the side sails and attached them with cleco's.
removed the rear hump trunk and measured the distance from top of shock on each side.
I was off by 1/4 ". Slight adjustment. Refit rear hump trunk then drilled the holes on the top mount.
I think I over tightened ton side as I see a slight stress crack.
I think I will purchase the rear mount that Mechie sells.
I like that it keeps the back spaced and hope it will relieve some of the stress.
Pics to follow

[insurance guy]

I wanted to post updated photos from my weekend work. I measured 3x before I cut the hole for the tail pipe. I don't know how everyone else did it but I was off by almost 3 inches. I am fiberglassing the hole back in place and will use the gelcoat repair kit ffr sent me to hopefully make it look like new and recut the hole.
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[insurance guy]

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[insurance guy]

I am using rivnuts to mount fiberglass body. I want to be able to remove the pieces. I will also paint the panels off the car after the gaps and body work is done. The repair of the hole for the exhaust turned out pretty good. I will try my hand at gelcoat when it gets warmer.1.jpg2.jpg3.jpg4.jpg

[insurance guy]

this is like a jigsaw puzzle where the pieces don't fit. I move one part into position and two other parts are out of alignment. I am so scared of cutting the body pieces but looking closely at the manual and everyone else's build I am going to just start cutting and shaping to make everything fit. I have gelcoat paste from factory five, I also just ordered a polyester paste and fairing compound from Fiberglast
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[Pearldrummer7]

I used Bob's install procedure for headlights. This order helped me a lot. I don't know how some people make them look so nice; mine came out fitting horrible. Namely the hood to fenders.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...=bob+headlight

[Mechie3]

this is like a jigsaw puzzle where the pieces don't fit.

I hate to admit it...but I laughed. Not because it's funny, but I liked how you phrased and, having been there/done that, I feel the pain.

[RM1SepEx]

this is like a jigsaw puzzle where the pieces don't fit. I move one part into position and two other parts are out of alignment. I am so scared of cutting the body pieces but looking closely at the manual and everyone else's build I am going to just start cutting and shaping to make everything fit. I have gelcoat paste from factory five, I also just ordered a polyester paste and fairing compound from Fiberglast
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you need to cut the return edges so the hood, engine cover and trunk lid sit down, next you need to cut about 2 inches off the front edge of the fender ledges where they sit on the headlights, just as shown in the manual. You need to get the fender to nose perfect at the wheel well and at the rockers. I found that the hood needs more curvature in the center so I put a rubber tipped upgright on the tubing that goes across in back of the radiator.

I agree with the puzzle comment however the bigger issue is the 3D nature of the puzzle with the thin panels that tend to flatten over time. I used radiant heat and gravity (jugs of varied fluids) to massage the 3D nature of the panels. The longer that they sit, the worse it is...

At least your panels appear to be fully filled w/o large voids

[insurance guy]

Built a wood frame for the front bumper, fenders and hood.
I mounted parts on that and can work the body and set it up as a single clip.
Easier to grind, and sand without the dust getting all over interior and engine bay.

[insurance guy]

This kit is so screwy
Parts with no instructions, instructions with no parts.
Anyone have a picture on the install of rear cockpit side cover.
Part 41 on aluminum parts diagram,
This really needs surgery if it goes in the way I think it Does
Good thing they don't show how to install it until everything else is done so I have to disassemble everything I just did

[NBinSD]

Someone just posted a pic... I think it was quiny. First time I've seen pics of it installed.

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Someone just posted a pic... I think it was quiny. First time I've seen pics of it installed.

Here is quiny's picture
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I cut off a couple of inches off the bottom mine.
Bob

[RM1SepEx]

His body is 1/4 farther forward than mine, I wonder how much body interferes with the roll bar at the humps

[insurance guy]

after looking at the piece and the location for quite a while it covers up the opening from the hump lid. The piece if placed properly fits up into the inner corner of the hump trunk. I have not installed it yet but here is a picture of the location in blue tape,IMG_0053.JPG

[insurance guy]

working on the door installation. Two very good resources are Wayne's and Tamra's install. Working back from the latch and striker make it real easy. I was unable to see the light through my sail as I undercoated it. I mounted the support and was able to get a drill and with a 1/16 drill bit put a hole through. I then traced the sticker on and outlined it. was very close with the first hole and dead on with the second. U need to take the side sali off to sand down an edge for the install of the side aluminum piece that attaches between that mount. I will begin to cut the hood and truck edges so the fits are flush.
I need to make my pics smaller as new camera is making them to big to upload

[insurance guy]

removing all body pieces to cut as much of the flashing for a better fit. I have used rivnuts for most of the build so I can take body pieces off as needed. I am attaching the rest of the aluminum pieces ( wheel well and nose pieces) I will trim them when reattaching the fiberglass.
I need to find another way to post pictures as my new phone takes them to large to post

[insurance guy]

ok figured it out
here is how I installed aluminum piece #41
I did some minor trimming
alum side.jpg

[insurance guy]

I have started sending update videos to my friend who is busy fighting cancer.
I will be posting video updates
here is link for all to see
https://youtu.be/hE8fJiA0Sl8

[NBinSD]

Nice video, your car looks great and you're making quick progress. Did you ever get your hood/fender/bumper set lined up? I've got my headlights in, and fenders attached to the bumper and side sails but my hood's going to take some serious work to get it to fit.

Hoping the best for your buddy's health.

[insurance guy]

I need to cut the flashing around the hood so it is flush with the fenders and bumpers. I am seeing that the car aligns a lot better if you done force it into place. I am going to let everything be unstressed and finish the imperfections after all body pieces and aluminum are attached. I will remove all the body pieces and build a jig to do body work and paint. I am using rivnuts for everything so it comes apart ( not easily) I watched all the videos of fashthings GTM's build. He started with the body work. I can never get to his level of perfection but it shows me that the bodywork after will fix any gaps or places I am unhappy with. Living in NJ getting this car registered will be the trophy I am looking for. I have been through the process previously with another type of build and they are really nuts.

[insurance guy]

So here I am for the last few days trying to install the dash. Are the 2 aluminum brackets and center console the only thing holding this? I purchased some heavy duty velcro but it does not Appear that the front will sit flush.
I would appreciate pics of how you installed yours.
I am struggling door liners also. They just don't look good at the transition from outside to inside. Any suggestions?
I have 15 items on my list to completely car. working really slow trying to make it look somewhat professional.

[NBinSD]

I do think the two al brackets are all they provide for the dash mount. I bought some aluminum and made a couple of more brackets but haven't finished the install to say if they're enough or not. I've heard other people say they're making wider brackets but I haven't seen any of them. My front isn't super flush either but I think with velcro and some weights it'll be fine.

My doors look crappy where the door card meets it. I put the door edge molding around the fiberglass but that makes setting the door gap quite a bit harder. I ended up putting velcro between the door card and the door skin between the door latch and the top of the door... mostly to fill the gap with something. It's still not great looking.

[insurance guy]

got back on track today with installation of the dash. I fabricated steel brackets about 2" longer than the supplied aluminum ones. I used Velcro across the front. It seems to hold. I think I will cut a piece of rigid foam in the shape of the front and wedge it under the dash. holds the front up really nice.
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[insurance guy]

I had my dash installed today. Two name companies refused to install the windshield because either they did not sell me the windshield or the vehicle was not one they were comfortable doing. the installer that came by said if the owner was in , he would not have taken the job. He used a rubber trim molding around the front edge it came out acceptable. There is nothing on the inside edge and I am guessing there should have been a similar molding like the front. No problem I am sure I can find something acceptable at McMaster Carr. After the installer left I noticed the bottom driver side was lifting. A few pieces of Gorilla Tape quickly fixed that. I will see if it separates' again and will get some of the black disgusting adhesive they use. I also think there needs some finishing trim or bulb molding to put around the inside windshield to give it a more finished look. My next challenge is the wiper. I purchased a single motor and will look to install one wiper right in the center. I have seen others do the same but cannot find the build threads. Anyone that knows of any please pass them on. I am replacing the hood pins with the small quick latches others have used. I need to weld up the current pin locations so I can redrill smaller holes. I had the car outside and idling today. first time in months. I am so glad the weather is finally getting warmer. Need to get the ramps out. LOLIMG_0296.JPGIMG_0298.JPG

[NBinSD]

got back on track today with installation of the dash. I fabricated steel brackets about 2" longer than the supplied aluminum ones. I used Velcro across the front. It seems to hold. I think I will cut a piece of rigid foam in the shape of the front and wedge it under the dash. holds the front up really nice.
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Could be an optical illusion but it looks like you have the dash under the windshield frame. I wasn't sure which way it was supposed to go but I believe most people are putting the dash on top of the windshield frame and then vecro-ing it down.

[insurance guy]

the BEST thing about the Factory Five 818 is the FORUM. You are absolutely correct, I did not realize it went on the top of the frame. I removed the supports took off the Velcro and it lays perfectly. Thanks so much for the catch, it looks 100% better. The Velcro tape residue is easily removed and the holes in the dash will be used for the supplied aluminum brackets that fit remarkably well NOW. Great CATCH NBinSD, eternally grateful.

[Bob_n_Cincy]

My next challenge is the wiper. I purchased a single motor and will look to install one wiper right in the center. I have seen others do the same but cannot find the build threads.

Here is my single wiper mounted in the center with no hood trimming.

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...l=1#post211128

[insurance guy]

Do you have any more photos of that install Bob?
I purchased a single boat wiper motor and looking for place to mount it.
There was another install I saw about 6 months back
Can't find it now.
Now that the windshield is in things are clearer ( not meant to be a joke)
I had the glass packed away in a safe place, should have put it in to do dash and now windshield profit.

[insurance guy]

I hate spell check
Previously not profit

[Bob_n_Cincy]

Hey insurance guy, You can always edit your own post. _________ ^^^^^^^^

I also used a marine wiper motor. See post 663 in my thread.
I didn't take pictures of the bracket I made before I covered it up. I will do so on my second car in a couple of months.
Bob

[STiPWRD]

My next challenge is the wiper. I purchased a single motor and will look to install one wiper right in the center. I have seen others do the same but cannot find the build threads. Anyone that knows of any please pass them on.

Here's one of the wiper threads:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...l=1#post194180

A few other people have done a single wiper

Lumpyguy:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...l=1#post222064

Matteo:
http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...l=1#post199883

Hendow
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Erik
Erik Treves Wiper9.jpg

[RM1SepEx]

With my single, no hood cut, I do have a FFR wiper arm on order to finish it

http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...-Thread/page31