Redfogo's 818C build

[UnhipPopano]

What do you do if you take it off for a quick bit of work, and find that the work will take some time? Will you put it back on at the end of each day working on it?

[redfogo]

What do you do if you take it off for a quick bit of work, and find that the work will take some time? Will you put it back on at the end of each day working on it?

That's the plan its easy enough to do.

[redfogo]

Great idea on the wireless steering wheel! In fact, I probably have a small RF transmitter laying around that'll be perfect for my horn.

That will work you just need to set up your receiver to be able to turn things on and off.

[redfogo]

Finished up my exhaust last night. I need to weld up support mounts and then get it all wrapped up with heat wrap. It was my 1st time welding up a complex exhaust while my welds did not come out perfect like I wanted they get the job done and will be covered with heat wrap anyways! The biggest thing I wanted was to make sure it was easy to remove and install with little issues!

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[Frank818]

For a DIY, those bends are great. Once you drive it, can you tell if the sound rumbles less than on those with a straight same size-no split exhaust? I'm thinking something and you are the closest to provide valid feedback on that Q.

[redfogo]

For a DIY, those bends are great. Once you drive it, can you tell if the sound rumbles less than on those with a straight same size-no split exhaust? I'm thinking something and you are the closest to provide valid feedback on that Q.

yeah you bet I just need to solve why my car won't start now that it's cold...

[Frank818]

I just need to solve why my car won't start now that it's cold...

Oops

[redfogo]

Oops

Yeah no sure what the issue is it just dosent want to idle up for some reason.

[Frank818]

Mind describing the behaviour (behavior?) from the point you crank it? What oil do you use?
I've had that prob on my old Corrado, it was hard to crank under 35F.

[redfogo]

Mind describing the behaviour (behavior?) from the point you crank it? What oil do you use?
I've had that prob on my old Corrado, it was hard to crank under 35F.

5w40 oil. Car cranks fine starts up and just bogs to life trying to start. RPMS will hold tell 1k then just drop tell it dies. If I move the throttle the injectors tick but the RPMs do not increase. I changed out the IACV it didn't seem to change anything. Going to try a boost leak test next and maybe add more fuel into the tank see what happens. Pump comes on seems to be running just fine. You would think the RPMs would jump up when its cold like a normal cold start. My air intake temp sensor and coolant temp sensor are reading the same values so I know they are both good.

[Frank818]

What are the values red by the sensors compared to those of when the car was running fine?
You probably know that when it gets colder, the ECU adds in fuel and increases RPMs. I just wonder if the ECU is either reading the correct temps or reacting properly to those readings.
I control all that on my stand alone and I've had issues related to bad temp management cuz I didn't do it right. Doesn't matter if you control or not these things, my above question on the ECU is still valid.

[redfogo]

What are the values red by the sensors compared to those of when the car was running fine?
You probably know that when it gets colder, the ECU adds in fuel and increases RPMs. I just wonder if the ECU is either reading the correct temps or reacting properly to those readings.
I control all that on my stand alone and I've had issues related to bad temp management cuz I didn't do it right. Doesn't matter if you control or not these things, my above question on the ECU is still valid.

I agree I feel the ecu should be dumping more fuel at start up and its not... I too think the car is reading in the wrong temp readings. However my logs show engine is at around 47deg coolant and 48deg air temp. So I know its close to correct. My ECU has a JDM after market tune on it. I compared my ECU warm up maps to the OEM maps and they are all the same. Fuel inside is maybe 2 months old. My only guess I need too freshen up the fuel maybe so I'm going to add some stabilizer and fresh fuel see what happens! I ran it 2 weeks ago though without any issues started up a little bad but it idled up eventually after a few min. It was about 65deg outside.

[Frank818]

To completely get rid (or totally nail it down) of the potential TEMPS compensation map issue you have to somehow simulate higher water readings to start with (as this affects more fuel) and then if inconclusive higher water and air temps. Not sure you can simulate that, but it's not impossible.

Bad fuel after 2 months is unlikely possible but that too is not impossible. Well worth trying freshening it up.

[redfogo]

Alright cars happy now. I think I had a mix of old fuel and fowled plugs things seem happy now. I will try to get a video for you so you can tell the sound tomorrow or Wednesday when I am off work!

[Frank818]

Fouled plugs, damn I always forget about that! Good you fixed it quickly.

[redfogo]

Here is a video of the exhaust for you frank . Its a little less Subaru sounding but still a slight hint of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxqQ-DfyeNc

[Frank818]

Crap I only responded on youtube. loll
That's probably the best Subaru non-6cyl sound I've heard. There's really something different about yours, not sure if it's the muffler or the split to 4 tips. That should slice the turbulence and change the sound, but your split happens so far after the turbo I'm not sure it has any impact on the sound. Must be the muff then. There's something extremely deep about it. Really nice, man. You gotta take a drive before the winter and judging by your weather outside and vapors off the tips, it's cold already.

[turbomacncheese]

I agree. That's exactly the sound I want.

[redfogo]

Glad you guys like it. Since it's mostly all mild steel I think it helps make a nice deep sound. Add in the vibrant resonator I think also helps kill the drone and make it deep.

[Frank818]

Red, when could we expect a load accel video?

[redfogo]

Red, when could we expect a load accel video?

Sadly probably once winter is over. Salts about to hit the roads soon :/.

[Canadian818]

Sounds awesome, nice fab work

[Frank818]

Yeah, damn salt. Just started here. Adam probably knows that too.
Where are you located anyway, Red?

[redfogo]

Nebraska the forgotten state

[UnhipPopano]

"Nebraska the forgotten state"

It might only be forgotten by those that did not need to live there through the winters. One winter when I was there, Runzas were free!

For those not familiar, they have a string if fast food restaurants called Runza, where their flag ship sandwiches are called Runzas. I believe they come from a German recipe. Around January, they put them on sale, with the price set by the high temperature of the day before.

[Frank818]

I didn't know Nebraska had snow. It's one thing that doesn't "forget" Nebraska...

[redfogo]

Small Update I started working on my dash set up. Still working on finishing things up but my center console is starting to fit in nicely

Also and old picture I forgot to upload a while ago with some of the body panels on. Crazy its been officially a 1year and a few weeks so far and still plenty left to do!

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Rear wiring harness I am running for my rear lights.

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[lance corsi]

Red, in the photo of your car, the wheels look awfully far out. Are you certain there is no rubbing on compression? I was afraid to put mine so close to the fender lip for fear of rubbing.

[redfogo]

Red, in the photo of your car, the wheels look awfully far out. Are you certain there is no rubbing on compression? I was afraid to put mine so close to the fender lip for fear of rubbing.

Im trying to be Hella Flush going to run crazy camber so my wheels are like this!!!

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JUST KIDDING

I still need to do my alignment, my wheels are just where they are because they landed there after assembly. I need to get all the panels finalized before I get the alignment finished

[Frank818]

JUST KIDDING

R u? On that pic what's interesting is not the crazy camber, it's the rims! The rims are so wide they don't fit on the tires. Plz tell me there is a second lip inside the rim for the tires to attach to. What a bad choice though.

[redfogo]

R u? On that pic what's interesting is not the crazy camber, it's the rims! The rims are so wide they don't fit on the tires. Plz tell me there is a second lip inside the rim for the tires to attach to. What a bad choice though.

I wish I knew the answer, my guess is it runs on hopes and dreams!

[redfogo]

Small update working on headlight ATM trying to get them mounted so they are removable. Having a little trouble getting some bolts in that can actually fit and be fastened! Mechie3 suggested heating up the edges and flatting them hopping to give that a shot ASAP!

Currently running behind as I am in the middle of doing a turbo motor swap into my 1985 mr2! It was my 1st car and I got it when I was 15 almost 10 year ago this January! It also the car that started it all for me! Sooooo that's been a fun adventure I hope to have it done in a few weeks so I can get back to the 818! I just need to place new motor in and get the fuel pump swapped! Having restored the car a year before I got the 818 the last thing on the list was to update the motor that was planned for after the 818 but the car didn't want to hold out, axles started to fail and odd pulley noises where happening it was just time to get thing underway before I had to tow it from my storage unit lol.

Here is some of the fun history of the car it had to go through a large restoration process way more effort then the car was worth but it was my 1st car I couldn't let it go!!->http://www.mr2oc.com/18-show-shine/5...urrection.html

And here is a pic of it over the past summer:

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While I know its not 818 specific figured I would post anyways because its my blog and explains why I am behind hope its enough justification! Some point I will catch back up to you Frank!

[Frank818]

I always loved the MR2, but mostly the last gen, the Ferrari-like for poor people. Although i admit you really restored this one great!! It looks amazing!

But most of all, I always love to understand where people come from and what made them land here. There is always, always great stuff behind. Lots of respect for your restore.


Our windscreen glass comes from this version of the one after?

[redfogo]

Updates not much in 818 land yet but should be back and heavy hitting by end of march at the latest. Finishing up the last few bits of my engine swap in my MR2 and picked up a new daily driver 04 sti.

For those that thing the 818 is a tight fit (MR2 turbo swap):

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Side note if anyone has a spare impreza A/C discharge line they don't need from there donor let me know I'm in need of one

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[STiPWRD]

^ I love those rims, so many toys so little time...

[Frank818]

Are you sure that MR2 IC is efficient?

[redfogo]

Are you sure that MR2 IC is efficient?

Gladly accept any better input though always looking for better ideas

OEM:

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The current spot seems the best spot you can get really from what I can tell . So it has a blower fan under it that pushing air through it and it also has a big hole right there that its drawing air straight from under the car. Air is also drawn up from under the car and pushed through the core/ through the engine bay vents. If this was ever going to see a race track a trunk mount intercooler would probably work the best. This car won't see any track days(probably) that's what the 818 is for right .

Here is the hole, you can see the filter is close to the trans the rest is just where all the air is pushed up through the engine bay through the pusher fan. It will suck air from this location and push through the intercooler as well as air will be forced through it. Some 90s mr2 turbo have ran set ups like this with some great results so figure best bet! Its a thick core rated for 500hp.

Its not the most optimal but the best bet after this is big holes in the trunk! I had done this on my 91 turbo mr2 it works awesome but felt to bad cutting up my car.

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Poor quality pic but all I could find from way back in the day quickly haha.

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[Frank818]

So all the air is coming from underneath, you should get some fresh air with that. Doesnn't work well on the 818 apparently, according to Bob and his tests.

[redfogo]

So all the air is coming from underneath, you should get some fresh air with that. Doesnn't work well on the 818 apparently, according to Bob and his tests.

Thanks for the questions though deff have to do some testing see what I can find . I always enjoy everyone's comments deff keeps me always thinking of new ways to do everything!

[redfogo]

Finally solved my headlights. I tried using fastners on the bottoms and it didn't work how I wanted. So I ended up having to get new buckets from FFR. The new ones are now flat black and no longer have the raw glossy black plastic. I like them! Also I'm not sure if it's the flat black or what but decided to go back to the default FFR light set up and not have the LED strips. Kinda like the cleaner look for now.

I used rivnuts for the headlight housing seemed to work te best they are 10-24. They work nice and I can remove everything like I wanted. Only draw back is getting the rivnuts flush I didn't get them all flush with the housing. This worked okay though because I needed some of them at an angle. They all hold on well and strong but just for safe measures I used some epoxy on them for extra strength.

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