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    York's 818s

    Good afternoon.

    I picked up my kit on the Sep 1st.

    I am using an 02 WRX donor with 209k miles from the north east. Yeah I used alot of pb blaster
    18g turbo
    Decapped blue injectors
    JDM ej205 avcs
    MS3X
    4/2 pot brakes
    OBX front diff (if it's ever back in stock) so far I have completed the bottom and front aluminium, front suspension steering rack and rear suspension.

    I am doing the build with my man cub soon to be 5 year old.

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    How many 1/8th drill bits does one need? Atleast one more! Just a quick update. Installed the engine trans, pedal box master cylinders steering rack and column and preeping the fuel tank. It's refreshing to bolt new parts onto a new chassis with new hardware. Rivits are starting to get a little old however.

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    For what's it's worth I used Dewalt and have only needed 4 to do every frame hole.

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    The harbor freight air riveter is good. Are you near rm1sepex in Maine?
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    I am about an 75 min from freeport. I live a few miles north of Waterville. I will give the DeWalt bits a try. Will give the hf riviter a shot as well. Unfortunately I have a solid entry for the world's loudest air compressor competition atleast a podium finish.

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    I bought a 8 pack of Milwaukie drill bits, I cut a few down to get into tighter places with my 45 degree drill. Its been plenty to do the whole car so far.

    I connected my hose reel to my compressor with a 10 ft rubber line. When I get tired of my compressor I wheel it outside and shut the door.
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    a pack of the HF TI double ended bits will do the entire car. Dip the bit into oil before each hole. I also use the HF air riveter. Mine's spent after building an electric reverse trike and the 818. PM me when/if you want to see a completed 818, mine's about 1400 miles from first registration
    Dan

    818S #17 Picked up 8/1/13 First start 11/1/13 Go Kart 3/28/14

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    Thanks Dan, ti bits and oil trick is working nicely. It's officially a roller. Metric to standard brake line clutch Lin adadapters are pol as is diff lock, so jumping in on the wiring. I am using MS3X for engine management with lc1, egt, gps and 3way accelerometer for data logging. Going to try and use a jbperformance dual vr conditioner board with factory abs sensors to try percent slip traction control as well. I need to take more pictures then figure out how to add them to thread as well.

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    Wiring is more fun than I thought it would be. Since I am running stand alone I cut the harness into long pigtails and used Delphi weather pack bulk head connector and separate relay / fuse box in the engine bay. Holds relays for coils, injectors/iacv avcs solenoids, fuel pump and alcohol injection pump. Will do separate box for chassis harness.

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    Last edited by alpine227; 09-22-2016 at 07:57 PM.

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    My favorite photo so far. Man cub helping out.

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    Will be putting ecu in a Hammond 1550 watertight enclosure with ampseal connectors.

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    First start today, had an awful notice coming from the flywheel, pulled trans and noticed I forgot to torque down the flywheel oops! Back together and took a spin around the yard..... Not a huge fan of the ej205 sound miss my ez30

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    So I think the JDM ej205 avcs has a different cam pattern than the usdm as I loss sync when I try to run full sequential spark and sync loss counter goes crazy. I have a pretty clean signal from crank up to 5500 on the crank signal 36-2-2-2 vvt mode. Gets a bit noisy after that.ordered a vr conditioner board to try and clean it up. Appears the cam is out of phase with the decoder.
    Lights are in, cluster is getting wired in as well. Used waynes door trick and coolant mod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine227 View Post
    So I think the JDM ej205 avcs has a different cam pattern than the usdm as I loss sync when I try to run full sequential spark and sync loss counter goes crazy. I have a pretty clean signal from crank up to 5500 on the crank signal 36-2-2-2 vvt mode. Gets a bit noisy after that.ordered a vr conditioner board to try and clean it up. Appears the cam is out of phase with the decoder.
    Lights are in, cluster is getting wired in as well. Used waynes door trick and coolant mod.
    I'm not terribly familiar with the EJ205 with AVCS, but the EJ207 V7-V9 used an inductive cam sensors, whereas USDM EJ257 used hall effect sensors.
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    Yes the sensors are vr, I am going to run them through a vr conditioner board to clean up the noise a bit. Just not sure why it's not sync the cam and crank with the 36-2-2-2 vvt decoder. I will try it on the 36-2-2-2 standard decoder to see if I get sync. It works fine with semi sequential fuel and wasted spark cop with only the crank signal. I suspect the cam signals should be the same as the usdm ej205's as reportedly the work on a usdm ecu just won't run avcs. I need to put the engine back in I had to replace the water pump and try the regular decoder not vvt.

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    what was the process you used to clean/prep/paint your chassis?

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    First I am not a paint expert! An important prep step is to ensure its not raining on pickup day! The weather at home was 80 and sunny but it was raining in MA. Nothing a few cans of wd40 couldnt fix. As for prep I hit a few areas with a flap disc, I used a case of brake cleaner and rags to degrease it. I used metal prep to etch and promote adhesion than let Ethan at it with a roller. I used a gloss epoxy paint on the roll bar. The powder coat looks better to be honest but it was a fun project the boy could help with.

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    Thanks Larry, the new EPROM was a snap to put in look forward to not seeing 209k on the odometer.

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    I picked up some Delphi weather pack connectors to finish off the engine bay harness from DIYAutoTune. And installed the Mike's brake relocation bracket and alternator kit. The relocation kit came with a template very nice product.

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    Would you post a picture of your front top door hinge frame mounting point? (either side)

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine227 View Post
    Thanks Larry, the new EPROM was a snap to put in look forward to not seeing 209k on the odometer.
    Your welcome.

    Larry

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine227 View Post
    Wow 20 days and the car was already that far? Unbelievable.

    I'm interested in your fuel filler neck (pipe), by any chance do you have a picture of the pipe off of the tank or a close up pic of the pipe on the tank?
    Frank
    818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 GT3582R ~400whp/wtq+
    Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
    Tracked May 27, 2017: partly failed session

    Busted 3000h and still pushing 30h/week

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    Last edited by alpine227; 11-02-2016 at 11:25 PM.

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    Filler neck into tank pic

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    I tried but with the doors on its hard to get a shot of it. The side view picture of the rolling chassis is pretty high res so if you zoom in you get a pretty good view of the mounting point.

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    Yeah looks pretty good enough. It seems to fit more fwd than mine, not sure if FFR did a change on the pipe or the way it mounts at the bottom of the tank, but yours should fit pretty close to the fuel cap.
    Frank
    818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 GT3582R ~400whp/wtq+
    Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
    Tracked May 27, 2017: partly failed session

    Busted 3000h and still pushing 30h/week

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    It appears to be a change as it didn't look like the one in the manual. There is approximately a 3/4 gap between the cap and end of the filler tube.

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    Great, tnx for that man. I'll mail FFR, maybe if the cost is right I'd prefer to pay to get a part that fit much better, rather than taking who-knows-how-many-hours to make mine fit somehow.

    The 3/4 gap is it side-to-side of the pipe or up-down from the pipe to the bottom of the cap? I mean is the pipe already pointing at the cap or slightly off by 3/4? Either way it's a huge improvement over the old style (3-4" or so).
    Frank
    818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 GT3582R ~400whp/wtq+
    Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
    Tracked May 27, 2017: partly failed session

    Busted 3000h and still pushing 30h/week

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    Its Nearly perfectly lined up just 3/4 of an inch from tube end to cap end.

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    Tnx so much for the pix and the info. Curiously the pipe at the bottom seems to extend further than mine but at the top it's more fwd, the angles in between are certainly different.
    I'll get a price and see if it's worth it for me.
    Frank
    818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 GT3582R ~400whp/wtq+
    Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
    Tracked May 27, 2017: partly failed session

    Busted 3000h and still pushing 30h/week

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    Welding aluminum will not be my new day job. I would post pictures but I think the carnage would cause some mental scarring.

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    Made some progress with wire managment finishing off the engine harness, I started on the cluster wiring and lights. I broke a lead going off my sub fuel level sender boo. Replaced brake lines with metric Cooper nickel lines and made bracket for waste gate on my 18g clocked 180 degrees and installed side mount intercooler. I need to get a new intake temp sensor bung since my primitive aluminum welding skills destroyed my first attempt. Still having issues getting the cam to sync I need to spend some time with the tooth logger on tuner studio to see what I am missing.

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    Hey man, what tires are you running?

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    Federal 595, I got them super cheap. I can't give a review yet. People running the factory five option wheels what tire size up front are you running without interference?

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    Just powered up the cluster, really like seeing 0 miles on the odometer thanks again.

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    https://youtu.be/Kn25nymPgt8

    Enjoying the snow, sorry I have no mount for my camera so it sat on my passenger side floor

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    It's cool to have fun, isn't it?

    What's that red disconnected about 1" silicone hose for?
    Frank
    818 chassis #181 powered by a '93 VW VR6 GT3582R ~400whp/wtq+
    Go-karted Aug 5, 2016 - Then May 19+21, 2017
    Tracked May 27, 2017: partly failed session

    Busted 3000h and still pushing 30h/week

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    ha ha me not cleaning up. It's a hose sitting on the firewall "shelf" aka place I put everything I just used and didn't put back in the tool box/parts shelf. It was a breather of PCV hose that I replaced for Air Oil separator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank818 View Post
    It's cool to have fun, isn't it?
    Just a cop out enjoying donuts!

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