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Thread: AWD's New build... lots of questions....

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    AWD's New build... lots of questions....

    Ok, so I drove 6 hours to VA to pick up a 2015 MK4 that hasnt been started yet. It was a basic kit, with some upgrades. I will probably be looking to off load some parts, and pick up other parts. I am completely new to this, so any help and tips will be well received.

    Basic kit with
    18" wheels
    SS exhaust (Still for sale)
    Dash with glove box (probably list for sale)
    front and rear bumper set (Sold)
    IRS complete setup
    GPS gauges
    SS roll bars both sides (might list for sale, I think I might want PC ones)


    What I still need (from what I have read)
    Front spindle and hubs
    both front and rear brakes
    Gas tank
    Steering rack
    Harness's
    Lower control arms



    Last edited by awd-turbo; 02-21-2017 at 06:33 AM. Reason: selling of items

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    First off dive into the build manual and while reading keep in mind photos often show optional not basic parts. You didn't state what you had in mind for the engine and trans which makes it hard to name some other things. I had looked at both basic and complete kits and one thing I was definite on was getting the new wiring. Since the kit is from 2015 make sure you know which IRS it has it might be the older Thunderbird setup. Sounds like your in for a fun ride, the more details you post here the more help you will get.
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    hey man thanks..

    I do have a new wiring harness. I dont know about the IRS, ill have to look into all of that. I started reading the manual the night i got it. I have been on here for a while lurking. I am doing a 306 carb engine, with a tko600.

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    Should be fun! Label everything. That will payoff down the line after you've started consolidating parts from box to box. (Not that anyone would do such a thing...) Since you still need a steering rack, this is a good time to decide which way you want to go - manual or power. I got the manual rack with my kit, then decided to go with power steering. If you decide to go manual, I have an available rack!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al_C View Post
    Should be fun! Label everything. That will payoff down the line after you've started consolidating parts from box to box. (Not that anyone would do such a thing...) Since you still need a steering rack, this is a good time to decide which way you want to go - manual or power. I got the manual rack with my kit, then decided to go with power steering. If you decide to go manual, I have an available rack!
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    Welcome to the family - good on you for saving a kit that was languishing. Enjoy the journey!!!
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    Thanks Gumball.

    Mod's you can move this to the build section please!

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    Mods please move to the build thread! Pleasde!

    Well, I have been all over the forums looking for the last bit of parts that I need... Between the facebook page, and here, I have almost gotten everything I need. The last bit I need is the radiator, and mounting kit.. So if anyone has onelet me know...

    I do have some stuff up for sale. SS exhaust, SS bumper kit, SS roll bars (both of them)

    Built the body buck, and moved the body. I have built the coilovers, and gone through everything 2000000000 times.. I should really dive into this week, and get a lot accomplished.




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    Looks like you got yourself a nice deal! Since it hasn't been started yet, you don't need to go back over anything, which is nice.

    I like your garage; great floor, lots of space, tall ceiling, and more. Looks like a great space.

    Good luck as you get started!

    Regards,

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by WIS89 View Post
    AWD-

    Looks like you got yourself a nice deal! Since it hasn't been started yet, you don't need to go back over anything, which is nice.

    I like your garage; great floor, lots of space, tall ceiling, and more. Looks like a great space.

    Good luck as you get started!

    Regards,

    Steve
    Thanks... I built this house 4 years ago, and did the floors right when i moved in. They are in bad shape already, ha. I have done so much work out in the garage, it is almost my main living area. You cant see it, but on one wall I have a tv, which helps with the PDF version of the build manual, and a sound system for jamming out while wrenching...

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    Some more progress... I have been painting panels and started on the suspension. I am missing half the bolts it looks like. So I had to call FF multiple times yesterday and get things squared away... 65.00 later...

    Front suspension as much as I could do!


    Panels getting some paint


    F panels finished and look great! Really happy with how they turned out.


    Rear Passanger suspension. This is as far as I could go, missing the correct bolts!

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    Lots of waiting going on over here. I did rivet the firewall up, along with the f-panels. looks great right now.. I started to look at engines, called Mike and gots some quotes. I am wanting to do a 427. How much HP can the IRS pumkin hold? It came with the kit from ford racing and has the 3.55 gears.

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    Still hitting snags. So I ordered the wilwood setup. Got the setup, the panel was cut wrong and didnt match up. I called FF they are sending another one... Started to build the pedal box, the instructions say to open the "secondary parts bags" and I dont have one of those! So i started to inventory the box that I just recieved, and I am missing a lot of screws and nuts, along with some other plates... Only thing on back order for this order, was the rear bolt set that I ordered... Looks like I am also missing the front lower control arm bolts...

    Very frustrating.

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    new front panel came in today... Looks wrong to me! Am I wrong?



    This is what the original panel looked like

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    So I got to finish up the front suspension. Along with the rear suspension (I still need to torque everything down) fuel tank is now in.

    Pedal box is built and in. Along with a lot of the sheet metal. I think one more night and it will all be in, well what I can do at least. Most of it is painted, only pieces left to paint are some of the ones in the box. I painted everything with rustoleum high heat primer and paint.







    I also coated the underside sheet metal with their rubberized paint. I did this for two reasons. One for all the little tiney rocks that are going to bounce off the underside, I dont want to hear them. And 2 for a little sound deadening... I have ordered some thermo tec, and will be lining the foot boxes, along with the floor.

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    Not to much as I am coming off the flu.

    So, I have been waiting for some more parts... Parts to fix parts that were wrong... Both from Factory five "miss runs" and from me not communicating correctly what parts I needed... Most of the paneling is complete. I have the driver side foot box to finish up, but I am not going to do that for a little bit. I am the wire harness, and fuel lines to be run. After that tranny and engine!!! I think I am going to call Mike Forte and place my order this week for the 427 with a tko600 tranny... The paneling so far looks really good in person, it is a shame I bought 4 rolls of thermo cool to cover the majority of it up! =(

    The build so far is a lot of fun! I have a hard time waiting for the parts to come in. Well here are the latest pictures...

    Front brakes and suspension



    passanger side cockpit... Thermo cool in the foot box..


    Back wall! I think I am going to wait on the thermo cool for a lot of the cockpit...


    rear suspension


    fuel tank setup..

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    So I have been waiting for some parts... Mainly the sleeves for the rear end. It has been a head ache! Multiple orders... multiple phone calls... And Dan, engineers, and parts guys figured out the issue! Wrong parts in the wrong bin... After 4 orders of sleeves for the rear end, I can finally set it completely in place... These are just two of the 4 orders.... Def dont fit a m14 bolt, or the bushings!


    Brakes were completed on the front side. I ran half the line to the rear. I am still waiting for the calibers and a mounting piece for the rear. I dont want to run the lines until I have everything in place.


    this one is a mix of the wires and what I did for the front line. I didnt want to run it through a hole in the pedal box, so I took it outside the top and notches a hole. This should keep it away from anything that has a chance to rub on it



    Fuel line is run. I had to run to the store today to get the correct rubber gasket hangers... I should have that completely in tonight! =)


    Im still not sure how I want to mount the brake res... so the lines are just hanging for now!


    I am still waiting for some parts. I ordered my engine today. Mike forte 427 block and a TKO 600 tranny... I cant wait for that thing....

    I need to order a radiator, engine mounts (kit I have came with the 4.6 engine mounts) and a drive shaft. Since I have not seen one of those in any boxes yet!

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    Just because I love those rims!


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    Nice progress! I think we all take that picture with the wheel/tire mounted up for no good reason other than to take a picture! haha
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    Coming along very nice! Keep up the good work and posts.

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    It is getting there.... any input is welcomed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by awd-turbo View Post
    It is getting there.... any input is welcomed!
    Make you dash so you can remove it if needed without taking the body off. Many threads address this issue. Here is a link to mine.
    http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...4-Build-Thread

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    Thanks for the info... It will def be removable!

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    Did some work this past week. Finishing up things before my engine get here

    I built the rear brakes, and plummed as much of the lines as I can. I am missing the "T" fitting and the two tabs. I will give it to FFR, their customer service is up there...

    rear brake line


    calipers

    I am still waiting for the brake pads... They are on back order still


    The clearance of the 18" rim


    ran the E-Brake.... I need to attached it still


    3/8 fuel line is in.

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    Has anyone else had to modify their dash? Do you see how in the middle it is low? I was going to raise the center, and then trim down the ends to match the frame rail. Anyone else have to do this?

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    I raised my dash to where the center was flush and then trimmed the ends to match the curvature of the frame hoop. You need to be careful here. For me, I had the extra space due to my competition dash. In your case, raising the dash may create a clearance issue with your far left speedo or tack gauge. Either way, you do not want the dash sides above the frame hoop.

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    I would throw a clamp on that flexible gas line to barb fitting. I know the new push and twist stuff, says no clamp needed, but I just feel better. Did you have any trouble finding a 3/8 inverted 45* flare to 3/8 pipe thread fitting? All the stuff is out there, but getting the parts people to understand is the obstacle.

    While going through your thread, I noticed you have a nylock nut on your tie rod ends. Probably not a big issue, but I think the norm for safety is a castellated nut with a cotter key.
    Last edited by Railroad; 03-20-2017 at 09:50 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Railroad View Post
    I would throw a clamp on that flexible gas line to barb fitting. I know the new push and twist stuff, says no clamp needed, but I just feel better. Did you have any trouble finding a 3/8 inverted 45* flare to 3/8 pipe thread fitting? All the stuff is out there, but getting the parts people to understand is the obstacle.

    While going through your thread, I noticed you have a nylock nut on your tie rod ends. Probably not a big issue, but I think the norm for safety is a castellated nut with a cotter key.
    Yea I will clamp everything... Just pictures before I could make another run to the store for some good solid clamps...
    Tie rod does have a nylon nut on it... It came like that. There is no hole for a cotter pin. I guess I could make a hole... But the build manual says if you got a nylon nut with your kit you dont need a cotter pin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDXXVII View Post
    I raised my dash to where the center was flush and then trimmed the ends to match the curvature of the frame hoop. You need to be careful here. For me, I had the extra space due to my competition dash. In your case, raising the dash may create a clearance issue with your far left speedo or tack gauge. Either way, you do not want the dash sides above the frame hoop.
    Good call out on that. I might have just over looked that part and would not have paid attention to it...

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    Ordered headers for the 427w.... I used Gas-N... They look awesome. Ill let you know fit and finish once they are installed.


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