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    Great job and great videos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach34 View Post
    When are those side scoops going to be available?
    This.

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    They're available now in fiberglass, just call Factory Five
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    Wayne since you ran power steering in this car, what were your alignment specs? What would you run if it was at S height instead of the R height. I've got the R springs and shocks on my C right now.

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    Thanks Wayne. Just ordered them. I'm guessing the ones on that car are CF? They look sharp but the interior fiberglass ones should suffice for our needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulry View Post
    Thanks Wayne. Just ordered them. I'm guessing the ones on that car are CF? They look sharp but the interior fiberglass ones should suffice for our needs.
    Hey what was the price from FFR? Did they saying anything about offering them in CF? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by taco20 View Post
    Hey what was the price from FFR? Did they saying anything about offering them in CF? Thanks
    I ordered them online, so I didn't talk to anybody. Price was like $168 and change, shipped.

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    I also ordered mine online, about $172 with shipping. Only available in fiberglass although I did not talk to anyone either.
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    Same here

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben1272 View Post
    That must frustrate the heck out of them! Nice driving.
    love it... at 33sec he does a power check... nope not enough. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulry View Post
    I ordered them online, so I didn't talk to anybody. Price was like $168 and change, shipped.
    Hey what part number did you order because the ones I found on the FFR parts page are not the ones on the 818R car? I found part number #81145.

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    I was about to ask the same question.

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    I'm running the #81145 internal scoops for about a year now, only issue is that they require a 4" hose and most of the brake hose out there is 3" so you need an adaptor
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    What are you using them for?? fresh engine air or brake air or ??
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankc5r View Post
    What are you using them for?? fresh engine air or brake air or ??
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    I feed them into my intercooler through the 3" brake tubes and have the intercooler boxed so that the air is pushed through the IC
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFRSpec72 View Post
    I'm running the #81145 internal scoops for about a year now, only issue is that they require a 4" hose and most of the brake hose out there is 3" so you need an adaptor
    Tony, where did you find the adapter?

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    Wayne, I think you've just done more to redeem the 818 performance reputation than Factory Five could have hoped for with those lap times and video, great job! Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFRSpec72 View Post
    I'm running the #81145 internal scoops for about a year now, only issue is that they require a 4" hose and most of the brake hose out there is 3" so you need an adaptor
    Quote Originally Posted by FFRSpec72 View Post
    I feed them into my intercooler through the 3" brake tubes and have the intercooler boxed so that the air is pushed through the IC
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    Tony, where did you find the adapter?
    http://www.discoveryparts.com/auto-r...ne-4-inch.html
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    Spectre makes a 4" to 3" adapter.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002D30VGK...d=CHK8IEUB4VRD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plebeian View Post
    Wayne, I think you've just done more to redeem the 818 performance reputation than Factory Five could have hoped for with those lap times and video, great job! Cheers.
    Thanks, it's been fun and rewarding.
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    I went to Savannah to test out the larger radiator and air to water intercooler. I added 2 smaller heat exchangers on each side of the grill opening in addition to my standard heat exchanger. Coolant temps reached a max of 196 after 6 hard laps. The intake temps maxed out at 160 and 125 with the water/meth injection. Now that's when things didn't go so well. The header wrap had rubbed on the belly pan and some of it came off. The excess heat caused the timing cover to sag until it came in contact with the header and it ignited. It burned the timing belt, alternator belt timing covers and PS feed hose. So my solution is to use the DEI gold foil heat sheets on the timing covers, ceramic coat the header, wrap the headers with the DEI Ti wrap, put the form able sheet heat shield over the wrap.



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    Holy Cow! Obviously the engine wasn't running when the timing belt burned up. You're lucky you're not rebuilding a trashed engine.
    Crazy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Presley View Post
    So my solution is to use the DEI gold foil heat sheets on the timing covers, ceramic coat the header, wrap the headers with the DEI Ti wrap, put the form able sheet heat shield over the wrap.
    Wayne,
    My solution was similar.
    I bought these 2 product from McMaster.

    https://www.mcmaster.com/#93315k51/=18396ic
    https://www.mcmaster.com/#3254k91/=1839aty

    I was going to wrap my headers and all exhaust with this. But I never implemented it.

    Right now I am running with the factory header shields.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Presley View Post
    I went to Savannah to test out the larger radiator and air to water intercooler. I added 2 smaller heat exchangers on each side of the grill opening in addition to my standard heat exchanger. Coolant temps reached a max of 196 after 6 hard laps. The intake temps maxed out at 160 and 125 with the water/meth injection. Now that's when things didn't go so well. The header wrap had rubbed on the belly pan and some of it came off. The excess heat caused the timing cover to sag until it came in contact with the header and it ignited. It burned the timing belt, alternator belt timing covers and PS feed hose. So my solution is to use the DEI gold foil heat sheets on the timing covers, ceramic coat the header, wrap the headers with the DEI Ti wrap, put the form able sheet heat shield over the wrap.
    Great lesson to take this area seriously. Thanks for sharing!
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    Header ceramic coated, DEI Ti wrap and header blanket



    gold foil applied to the timing covers



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    A few laps from last weekend

    https://youtu.be/GRZb30HRsy8
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    Looks like you are hooked up on the Roebling Race line. Some odd turns there especially the off camber one. The acceleration up the front straight seems crazy! Are you on the same VIR tires? Is one of the goals FFR has with this to document your setup and determine if it is transferable to others who trying to make things work on the track?

    You are making it look easy!

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    Not sure why nobody asked this question. The photo attached shows the gas filler on the passenger side. What was done? Any chance of this being a future option? If this becomes an option, what would the new fuel tank look like?
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    Fuel cell on the passenger side is the reason I believe.

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    I asked that same question a while back. Wayne said because the fuel tank was in the passenger area.

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    The fuel cell is where the passenger seat would be so the filler got moved to the right side.
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    What are the alignment specs for this car Wayne sense it's running a power steering setup?

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    Man that is exiting to watch. you scare some drivers right off the track!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07FIREBLADE View Post
    What are the alignment specs for this car Wayne sense it's running a power steering setup?
    500 fr springs, 750 rear
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    -3° camber
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    3/16 toe in
    .015" roll steer in

    Quote Originally Posted by frankc5r View Post
    Man that is exiting to watch. you scare some drivers right off the track!
    Same guy spun twice...second time it just broke loose in the rear and off track
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    Wayne, you wrote, "The header wrap had rubbed on the belly pan and some of it came off. The excess heat caused . . . "
    Since I don't think this happens a lot on OE Subaru cars, what's different? A lot of turbo Subaru cars have header wrap, I think. Do the turbo OE cars have a belly pan?
    Obviously, you are pounding it hard, but is there any other cause for the excess heat and damage? And, how can others avoid it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZPete View Post
    Wayne, you wrote, "The header wrap had rubbed on the belly pan and some of it came off. The excess heat caused . . . "
    Since I don't think this happens a lot on OE Subaru cars, what's different? A lot of turbo Subaru cars have header wrap, I think. Do the turbo OE cars have a belly pan?
    Obviously, you are pounding it hard, but is there any other cause for the excess heat and damage? And, how can others avoid it?
    No subaru cars have a belly pan sealed up and so close to the exhaust, the stock manifolds have heat shields on them, this is a Borla header and comes closer to the timing cover. How to avoid it, see post 185 above
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    Thanks, Wayne. I've been planning a belly pan under my engine, so now I'll re-think it. I have a wrapped Perrin EL header and my street machine certainly has much less boost, stress, speeds and a less-skilled driver than your 818R. But, a heat shield will be a good project for me.

    BTW, I'm really enjoying your successes with the FFR 818R! Thanks.
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    Pete , does your header hang down below the frame ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZPete View Post
    Thanks, Wayne. I've been planning a belly pan under my engine, so now I'll re-think it. I have a wrapped Perrin EL header and my street machine certainly has much less boost, stress, speeds and a less-skilled driver than your 818R. But, a heat shield will be a good project for me.

    BTW, I'm really enjoying your successes with the FFR 818R! Thanks.
    It's how close the Borla header is to the timing cover. The Perrrin EL isn't as close and near as much of the cover

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Haar View Post
    Pete , does your header hang down below the frame ?
    The Perrin does not hang below the frame
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    Sorry if this was already noted on the areo package but can I ask:
    1. How wide from end plate to end plate is the APR GT1000 wing? I believe they come up to 71” wide. And what AOA is used?
    2. Fronted splitter which one? I assume it’s the FFR race. For the front splitter how much lip stick (distance from bumper edge to leading edge of splitter) out are you useing? And the verse how much from the front bumper to the rear of splitter? Also assuming the least amount of ducting in the front is being used ie duct above splitter blocked off?
    3. The rear quarter panel duct or vent frame or whatever you call it are those avsilable or where these one offs?

    Thanks and keep up the good work!
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