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    Carpet edging and heel pad

    I know several people have done carpet edging and heel pads on the factory carpet. I'm planning to do edging on just a couple of carpet edges, notably the tunnel piece and probably the funky piece around the doors. I can't decide on leather, vinyl, or fabric edging though. I'm looking for pics that anyone has of the edging they've done. Doesn't matter where it is, I'm just hoping to see examples on the black carpet of different types of edging. I'm leaning towards a fabric edge to match the FFR floor mats.

    Also wondering what people did for a heel pad on the driver's engine side panel near the gas pedal. Just a small square of vinyl stitched into the carpet? I feel this makes a professional look even though I don't feel it's really necessary. Pics of this too would be nice you anyone has some.

    On a side note, I don't plan to do this myself. I have access to nice stitching sewing machines(the kind that can embroider) but nothing heavy duty enough to handle the pile of carpet and the edging.

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    I've had carpet edging sewn onto the edges of the door piece and the transmission tunnel piece on my two Mk4 builds. Done by a local auto interior place with material that matched the FF floor mats. You can see it in these pics:





    For the heel pad, I bought some pieces from an automotive carpet place a couple builds ago. After cutting to shape and determining the location, I shave most of the carpet pile underneath and glue them in place. Then hand stitch around the edges with some carpet thread. They could also be machine sewn, but I just do it myself.



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    This place has DIY carpet edging that works pretty well (not as good as professionally sewn).
    https://www.bondproducts.com/instabi...-binding-tape/

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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardb View Post
    I've had carpet edging sewn onto the edges of the door piece and the transmission tunnel piece on my two Mk4 builds. Done by a local auto interior place with material that matched the FF floor mats. You can see it in these pics:


    Hi Again Paul. For your edge binding on the door pieces, is the binding on the upper sill carpet, or on the vertical inside piece, (or both)? Hard to tell in the photo which piece has the edge binding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boat737 View Post
    Hi Again Paul. For your edge binding on the door pieces, is the binding on the upper sill carpet, or on the vertical inside piece, (or both)? Hard to tell in the photo which piece has the edge binding.
    The edging is on the those wonky looking pieces that get installed and folded onto the top of the sills after you install the body and aluminum sill pieces. The main objective was to hide the raw edge of the carpet that would visible along the entire sill when the piece as delivered from FF is installed. But I also had edging installed on the corners, so that when they're folded into place by the door hinges and door latch, those raw edges also have a more finished look. This pic shows the pieces after they came back from having the edges sewn. I would recommend test fitting them before installing the edging.

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    I've used the same sewn edge material as shown by boBQuincy in area similar to edwardB. (except for the transmission. I secured the cover in place and covered with the one piece carpet for the entire tunnel). I also applied it in the trunk area around the cut out for the drop storage kit. This stuff is quite easy to apply and looks pro.

    One thing I've seen some people do for a wear pad.....Flip your removable floor mats over while driving. Then, turn them over when you get to the show and shine. I personally don't care for this. I drive quite a bit with my right sandal off (bare foot) and the little pitons on the bottom of the mats are annoying.

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    I had the upholstery shop use vinyl edging. I hated the rough edges especially on the sill....every time I got in I looked at the edges of the original carpet. I bought a full carpet set and had them bind the edges and replaced it. Happy now.
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    Guys,

    Thanks for posting this because I'm about to start on the cockpit carpeting phase of the build.
    Like the idea of using the rubber mat to protect the side of the transmission tunnel near The Go Pedal!
    Thanks Again!

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoDadGo View Post
    Guys,

    Thanks for posting this because I'm about to start on the cockpit carpeting phase of the build.
    Like the idea of using the rubber mat to protect the side of the transmission tunnel near The Go Pedal!
    Thanks Again!

    Steve
    I just ordered a few protective pads (different sizes) from this place. http://www.heelpadwarehouse.com/heel-pads/ I don't have them yet, so no review to share. I thought at less than $2 a piece, I'll experiment.
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    Hey TJ - Looks like I finally have most of this summer's bugs worked out and will be back on the road again this week. Once I've tested everything, I'll bring it up to Jay's house and you can check out my rugs.

    I had a local auto / boat / aircraft upholstery shop do sewn-on vinyl edging on my carpets. They used the same stuff that goes into restoration of old British cars, so it looks fairly authentic. I also covered all of the exposed chassis pieces in the cockpit, including the 2x2 tube under the dash, with leather that was left over from the seats and dash. For wear pads, I used some generic rubber pads that the upholstery shop gave me to cut down, then they sewed them onto the carpets - one on the floor and another on the footbox sidewall for my right foot. I also used some left over scraps of carpet to make my own floor mats, which they also edged. To hold them in place, I used Lift-the-Dot fasteners.

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    While I was at it, I had them edge the trunk carpeting and the main piece that covers the lower portion of the trunk floor is held in place by hidden snaps that I bought from Moss Motors.....

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    I did something a little different for the heel pad on the side carpet. Got some black pvc sheeting and cut it to fit the angled area there then used stainless fasteners to install. If it ever wears out it's a simple task to cut another one and replace.
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    Another pic of the wear pads - the mat and the carpet below it both have the same wear pads.

    Later,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumball View Post
    Another pic of the wear pads - the mat and the carpet below it both have the same wear pads.

    I am at the stage where I'm test fitting my carpets. Chris, with lift and dot fasteners, do all your carpets come out or, did you glue some down. For example, did you glue the behind the seats back wall pieces as well as the foot box side pieces?
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    Jay,

    Only the floor mats and the lower / main trunk piece are removable - all the other carpet pieces are glued in place.

    Moss Motors offers a variety of snaps to make carpets removable - if you are going that route, you should consider the ones that I used for the trunk carpet - here's a detail pic of those snaps with mounting rings that hide in the pile of the carpet. With these, the snap is riveted to the aluminum panel and then the snap receiver piece is mounted to the back side of the carpet panel and held in place by the spiked ring that is pushed through the nap of the carpet and then the pointed tangs are bent to hold the two parts together.



    This is the closest pic I have of the trunk carpet that is secured by those snaps - there are four across the front and four across the rear along the trunk lid opening - they are pretty much completely invisible once the nap of the carpet is moved around by hand / vacuum.

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    Later,
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    Did you have the carpet mats custom made? The ones from FFR don't fit my Mark III

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    I used fabric edging on my carpet tunnel and door jamb pieces. For the heel pad I got the FFR floor mats. For the carpeted side of engine tunnel by accel pedal I installed a piece of 1/8 thick black pvc sheet. Cut to fit that angled area and installed with stainless buttonhead screws. Allows for future replacement and the fasteners are low profile enough that they don’t interfere with pushing the pedal.
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    I used this on my Finishline drivers mat. It wore through the carpet in a couple thousand miles. When installed on the mat, it looks like they came that way from the factory.

    http://www.heelpadwarehouse.com/mini...ad-5-3-4-x-11/

    I also did some hold downs like this. The mats do not stay in place by themselves. They are actually kind of dangerous without the hold downs as the bunch up under the pedals.

    https://www.amazon.com/Cloulds_Zone-...W2C621YX6BMTGJ

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    Avalanche325

    Thanks for the mat hold down link I have been trying to find them


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    This might not be to your liking but I found that I always wore down the spot where my heel sat, maybe due to the thin aluminum flooring that pretty much keeps your heel in one spot. Others at the time were worried about road hazards coming up through the thin aluminum floor board so I cut a piece of diamond plate aluminum to fit the driver and passenger sides, sprayed on a layer of black bed liner, and laid them in place with a snug fit. I spray a new coat of bed liner every couple years to keep them fresh looking. This works well for me as the diamond plate keeps my heel from wearing down a spot and the diamonds and bed liner assure my heel doesn't slide around. At one point I carpeted the diamond plate but my heel wore the carpet in one season so the carpet was removed.

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    Ditto on the diamond plate on the footbox floors - I used some 3M butyl strip caulk to hold it in place and damp the floor a bit more.

    As for floor mats, I made my own using some leftover FFR carpet from my trunk project. Just cut them to fit and had the upholsterer edge them and add the rubber heel pad.
    Later,
    Chris

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    Itchief,

    When I did mine, the only place I could find them was ebay UK. Amazon will be a lot easier.

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