I don't know what this is, probably knew once as I had it powdercoated.
Looks like up front, it could be a FFR or Breeze part.
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I don't know what this is, probably knew once as I had it powdercoated.
Looks like up front, it could be a FFR or Breeze part.
Thanks !!!
Baghdad Bob
Complete Kit Delivered July 2010, serial @ 7287, Whitby Power Brakes, Whitby Tonneau, Power Steering w HEIDTS PS Valve, Hydralic clutch, 15" Wheels, BFG Tires, 331 stroker w Quick Fuel 650, RPM Heads, Air Gap Intake. IRS w 3.27, TKO-600. FFMETAL Firewall Forward, FFMETAL Dropped Battery Box in Trunk, Enlarged Passenger footbox, Breeze Cubby storage, Breeze Seat Brackets, Herbs Door Panels. Ford ruby red 12 coats.
Looks like the filler panel Breeze supplied with their hood hinge kit. Fills the gap between the top of the radiator and the curve of the body hood opening, if using the Breeze hood hinges.
Edit: Ignore this wrong information. See correct identification from Jeff Kleiner in the next post.
Last edited by edwardb; 09-03-2017 at 05:23 PM.
Build 1: Mk3 Roadster #5125. Sold 11/08/2014. Build 2: Mk4 Roadster #7750. Sold 04/10/2017. Build Thread
Build 3: Mk4 Roadster 20th Anniversary #8674. Sold 09/07/2020. Build Thread and Video. Build 4: Gen 3 Type 65 Coupe #59. Gen 3 Coyote. Legal 03/04/2020. Build Thread and Video
Build 5: 35 Hot Rod Truck #138. LS3 and 4L65E auto. Rcvd 01/05/2021. Legal 04/20/2023. Build Thread. Sold 11/9/2023.
It's the bottom piece of the 3 parts that go in the nose between the radiator and body.
Jeff
Last edited by edwardb; 09-03-2017 at 05:25 PM.
Build 1: Mk3 Roadster #5125. Sold 11/08/2014. Build 2: Mk4 Roadster #7750. Sold 04/10/2017. Build Thread
Build 3: Mk4 Roadster 20th Anniversary #8674. Sold 09/07/2020. Build Thread and Video. Build 4: Gen 3 Type 65 Coupe #59. Gen 3 Coyote. Legal 03/04/2020. Build Thread and Video
Build 5: 35 Hot Rod Truck #138. LS3 and 4L65E auto. Rcvd 01/05/2021. Legal 04/20/2023. Build Thread. Sold 11/9/2023.
Yes it's the lower rad support from FFR. The front gets riveted to the lower opening in the front of the body (discussed in the build manual). The two cut outs can be used if you are running a oil cooler.
Don't worry Paul, 3540/3541 is still a pretty good batting average.
Build 1: Mk3 Roadster #5125. Sold 11/08/2014. Build 2: Mk4 Roadster #7750. Sold 04/10/2017. Build Thread
Build 3: Mk4 Roadster 20th Anniversary #8674. Sold 09/07/2020. Build Thread and Video. Build 4: Gen 3 Type 65 Coupe #59. Gen 3 Coyote. Legal 03/04/2020. Build Thread and Video
Build 5: 35 Hot Rod Truck #138. LS3 and 4L65E auto. Rcvd 01/05/2021. Legal 04/20/2023. Build Thread. Sold 11/9/2023.
I haven't found it in the build manual and don't know what the other two pieces are either. Dave Howard is the curved edge the front?
Baghdad Bob
Complete Kit Delivered July 2010, serial @ 7287, Whitby Power Brakes, Whitby Tonneau, Power Steering w HEIDTS PS Valve, Hydralic clutch, 15" Wheels, BFG Tires, 331 stroker w Quick Fuel 650, RPM Heads, Air Gap Intake. IRS w 3.27, TKO-600. FFMETAL Firewall Forward, FFMETAL Dropped Battery Box in Trunk, Enlarged Passenger footbox, Breeze Cubby storage, Breeze Seat Brackets, Herbs Door Panels. Ford ruby red 12 coats.
I believe it is in the section after the body is on
I think it may be 10865 FRONT NOSE FLOOR, and there are these two
10907 LH FRONT NOSE WALL
10908 RH FRONT NOSE WALL
still looking
Thougfht it may be in this section:
FINAL assembly
Aluminum SPlash panels
Front wheel
Nope !!!
still looking
Last edited by mcwho; 09-08-2017 at 01:29 PM.
Baghdad Bob
Complete Kit Delivered July 2010, serial @ 7287, Whitby Power Brakes, Whitby Tonneau, Power Steering w HEIDTS PS Valve, Hydralic clutch, 15" Wheels, BFG Tires, 331 stroker w Quick Fuel 650, RPM Heads, Air Gap Intake. IRS w 3.27, TKO-600. FFMETAL Firewall Forward, FFMETAL Dropped Battery Box in Trunk, Enlarged Passenger footbox, Breeze Cubby storage, Breeze Seat Brackets, Herbs Door Panels. Ford ruby red 12 coats.
The three pieces in question are visible in this picture from the other forum. http://www.ffcars.com/forums/5596090-post12.html. This was the best picture I could find quickly. It does look like this builder trimmed the ends off the horizontal piece, but you get the idea. The straight edge goes along the bottom of the radiator. The curved edge under the lip around the body opening. The instructions show installing rivets through the body. The other two pieces go along the sides of the radiator with curved sides toward the front. Note the body needs to be on before installing these pieces.
Mike Everson sells a nice curved piece that replaces the three parts. I've seen several builds with this part in place and it looks good. http://www.replicaparts.com/Roadster...nel%20page.htm
Last edited by edwardb; 09-08-2017 at 01:35 PM.
Build 1: Mk3 Roadster #5125. Sold 11/08/2014. Build 2: Mk4 Roadster #7750. Sold 04/10/2017. Build Thread
Build 3: Mk4 Roadster 20th Anniversary #8674. Sold 09/07/2020. Build Thread and Video. Build 4: Gen 3 Type 65 Coupe #59. Gen 3 Coyote. Legal 03/04/2020. Build Thread and Video
Build 5: 35 Hot Rod Truck #138. LS3 and 4L65E auto. Rcvd 01/05/2021. Legal 04/20/2023. Build Thread. Sold 11/9/2023.
edwardb
thanks for your dillagence, would still like to know why I cant find a ref to them in the build manual.
gere are the 3 pieces I have, notice the notches in the side pieces?
Baghdad Bob
Complete Kit Delivered July 2010, serial @ 7287, Whitby Power Brakes, Whitby Tonneau, Power Steering w HEIDTS PS Valve, Hydralic clutch, 15" Wheels, BFG Tires, 331 stroker w Quick Fuel 650, RPM Heads, Air Gap Intake. IRS w 3.27, TKO-600. FFMETAL Firewall Forward, FFMETAL Dropped Battery Box in Trunk, Enlarged Passenger footbox, Breeze Cubby storage, Breeze Seat Brackets, Herbs Door Panels. Ford ruby red 12 coats.
I have Build manuals for base kit (Revision 3M) and complete (Revision 3X). In the base manual it's pages 393-401 and complete pages 342-350. right before carpet. in both versions.
-Kyle
Edit: Which is a WEIRD place to have it because it's BEFORE the final body mounting section... Oh well.
Last edited by kgkeys; 09-08-2017 at 02:13 PM.
my complete kit manual is version 3A, april 2010.
in my manual, just before carpet is final prep and roll bars. no pics of front eng
maybe it was omitted from that manual, possible the first version
Baghdad Bob
Complete Kit Delivered July 2010, serial @ 7287, Whitby Power Brakes, Whitby Tonneau, Power Steering w HEIDTS PS Valve, Hydralic clutch, 15" Wheels, BFG Tires, 331 stroker w Quick Fuel 650, RPM Heads, Air Gap Intake. IRS w 3.27, TKO-600. FFMETAL Firewall Forward, FFMETAL Dropped Battery Box in Trunk, Enlarged Passenger footbox, Breeze Cubby storage, Breeze Seat Brackets, Herbs Door Panels. Ford ruby red 12 coats.
That's correct. The upturned edge secures the bottom of the rad. The large radius curve fits in the front on the body. It is riveted on the inside edge of the bottom of the rad opening in the body. The other two pieces go up under the front of the body on either side of the rad. Put some bulb seal on the curved section of these pieces and it will seal again the underside of the body. This helps direct air through the rad....not around the rad.
OK, I am using the breeze lower radiator support so that lower support may be redundant. I doo see the need for the side pieces though, not sure what the noytches in them are for, they look like they would fit 3/4" rails.
Baghdad Bob
Complete Kit Delivered July 2010, serial @ 7287, Whitby Power Brakes, Whitby Tonneau, Power Steering w HEIDTS PS Valve, Hydralic clutch, 15" Wheels, BFG Tires, 331 stroker w Quick Fuel 650, RPM Heads, Air Gap Intake. IRS w 3.27, TKO-600. FFMETAL Firewall Forward, FFMETAL Dropped Battery Box in Trunk, Enlarged Passenger footbox, Breeze Cubby storage, Breeze Seat Brackets, Herbs Door Panels. Ford ruby red 12 coats.
OK, Found it here is the results.
The front nose and side Pieces fitment are NOT in the Hard Copy Manual manual that I have, Version 3A, April 2010 ( I suspect version 1) This is the manual that came with the Kit.
I did luckily save backups of my updates from my old computer before it crashed.
In looking at this full update it is called "Mk-4-roadster-complete-manual-rev-t"
In the Final assembly section
the first section has pages 351 thru 359 dedicated to the front nose and side pieces.
This pic is the ONLY reference to nose in my manual.
Thanks all, case closed !!!
Last edited by mcwho; 09-09-2017 at 12:25 AM.
Baghdad Bob
Complete Kit Delivered July 2010, serial @ 7287, Whitby Power Brakes, Whitby Tonneau, Power Steering w HEIDTS PS Valve, Hydralic clutch, 15" Wheels, BFG Tires, 331 stroker w Quick Fuel 650, RPM Heads, Air Gap Intake. IRS w 3.27, TKO-600. FFMETAL Firewall Forward, FFMETAL Dropped Battery Box in Trunk, Enlarged Passenger footbox, Breeze Cubby storage, Breeze Seat Brackets, Herbs Door Panels. Ford ruby red 12 coats.
The notches are to clear the heads of the front overrider bolts.
mike