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    Erik. Did you have to trim the lower nose to clear the radiator when the nose is open?
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    Yes! I had to do about 2inches to clear all the radiators I had up there
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    Excellent. Didn't want to do something stupid this far in.
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    lol... looking good...you are cruising!
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    Week 3 update. Didn't get much done this week as another project came back from paint and needed to be finished. I did get the following things done.

    Tires and wheels mounted and balanced. (ones in previous pics were borrowed from my car)
    Tail lights mounted
    head lights and turn signals mounted.
    fuel filler mounted.
    I started to fit the fog lights but did not care for the size of them. With the customers permission, I am going to swap them for the original Mustang ones. They are about an inch bigger in diameter and will fill the cavity better.

    Here are a few pics of the progress.











    The new LED tail lights are kind of cool. should be much easier to see them at night.

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    Mike,
    The Coupe is looking good! Nice progress for 3 weeks into the build. Any unexpected problems so far?
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    Mike ,

    I have a set of fog lights if you are interested.
    I cut the original mount and put a bolt through the center of the rear housing.

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    Len. Nothing. Its going together so easily.
    John let me knw what you want for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michael everson View Post
    ...Its going together so easily...
    And without a manual no less

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    Mike,

    Thanks for sharing your account of this build.
    Though I've only seen the new Type-65 at last year's "Cruising The Emerald Coast" seeing your assembly really shows the great engineering put into the kit and really showcases your abilities.

    Steve

    PS: I'd love to build one o these down the road, but it will be a few years if it happens.
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    Mike-

    Great progress so far. I am blown away how fast you are putting this together. I really appreciate all the details; I have been enjoying being along for the ride.

    I am also doubly impressed by the fact that you have made this progress without a manual. That, or you are just showing off. ;-o)

    Thanks for the details, and keep up the great work!

    Regards,

    Steve
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    For those following this thread, Factory Five does have a manual now for the Gen 3 Coupe. Not that Mike needs it... I went to see a Gen 3 build a couple hours from me last week (very impressive BTW) and he had just received the manual in the mail from Factory Five. I obtained an electronic version of a draft copy some weeks ago. But the released one is now available.

    My Gen 3 Coupe is scheduled to be completed next week. Then wait for Stewart. Trying to be patient.
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    Eds right. Manual is now out. For anyone on the fence about building one of these, go for it. You wont regret it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michael everson View Post
    Eds right. Manual is now out. For anyone on the fence about building one of these, go for it. You wont regret it.
    Mike
    I'll ask for one for Christmas, which is what my wife gave me two or three years before we ordered our MK-4.
    I must have read that manual 4-6 times, maybe more, since I would read it at Baby Go-Dad's swim meets.
    Will likely ask for the new Type-65 manual for my birthday if Santa Wife doesn't put one in my stocking.
    Thanks For Sharing The News About The Manual!

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    Mike I notice you have a tag on the car. When you are building these for customers how does this work? Are the kits in their names? Are you transferring ownership once complete? Any issues with that?
    Been talking with this customer of yours on instagram so I know he is on the west coast and the Massachusetts tag had me curious.
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    It was just paced there for the picture. Its the front plate off my Z06
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    On your fuel filler neck hose was the hose just a straight piece or did you have a pre bent hose to get away from the rear of the frame. I just got a straight piece of hose and when mounted on the filler neck seems to have too much of a kink in it. Factory five days I have the right hose but yours seems to fit much better. Thanks for the help. 17A06AD4-5089-4712-AC4F-232785A19061.jpeg

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    If its a GEN 3 there is a 90 degree hose supplied with the kit.
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    Here is a filler neck modified for the coupe w/o needing to cut the neck and add the straight coupler

    http://www.breezeautomotive.com/deta...1131&cat_id=58

    We offer a $43 credit for your un-cut FFR filler neck.

    Sorry to crash your thread Mike!
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    Man you are flying!! I should get my thanksgiving week but you may be done by then
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    my gen 3 did not come with the 90 degree bent hose, only a straight hose. sent a picture to what I got to factory five and they said that was correct. thanks for the info I will email them again.

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    This one came with the same one they use on the Hotrod. They even show it in the instruction manual. In fact I don't think I even got the hard straight one.

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    Its been a couple of weeks since I updated this post. Been very busy with other projects as well as getting some work done on the Daytona.

    For starters, I have the complete air conditioning system installed. I will do a separate post on this later but for now here are some photos of what I did.

















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    I have the complete cooling system installed including the cooling tubes from Boig Motorsports. They fit perfect.

















    This is the radiator shroud from Breeze Automotive. Its the same one as the Cobra. Fits perfect. Probably not needed but looks nicer than the straps.

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    I started fitting the hatch glass yesterday. Everything went well except the hinges were a little too short. I was able to fix it, but FFR said it has already been updated in later kits.





    And finally I have the spoiler fitted. No issues there either. The body is now ready for the paint shop.





    In this pic you can see the FFR supplied power steering pump and bracket. Fit pretty good with no interference.

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    Looking great Mike! Will be very interested in your thread about the A/C installation. I saw where FF posted Gen 3 A/C instructions so I've reviewed those. Is that the setup you used? Also, what did you end up with on the Coyote to drive both the A/C and the power steering? One last question (sorry) the Boig Motorsports cooling tubes you mention, that's the upper and lower radiator hoses pictured? Instead of the FF provided corrugated hoses?
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    Ed. I got he complete power steering kit from FFR. Very nice install and does not interfere with the A/C at all. The Boig Motorsport cooling tubes take place of the corrugated hoses that FFR supplies. Looks much nice in my opinion. Tell him I sent you.
    As for e A/C install, I followed FFR instructions but did deviate a little bit on running the A/C hoses. The only real issue I ran into is the short hoses from the under dash unit to the front of the foot box. If you don't get the length exactly right, you wont be able to screw them into the bulkhead. One of mine ended up being about 1/4 inch too long. My fix was to space out the fitting on the bulk head. You can see that in this picture.





    Also I did not cut an access hole like FFR shows in the instructions. Instead I cut that panel at the 90 degree bend so that the front part stays in place while giving access to everything inside.




    I just cut it alone the long left edge shown in this picture. I plan to rivet it back together using a piece of aluminum angle from the inside.

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    Mike,

    Incredible detail and nice clean finish on everything. It's a pleasure to see such craftsmanship on these cars.

    Thanks for the update,
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    wow you are quick building it. Hope the AC can be fit with only the top of the foot box open !! mine has been closed up for months and still waiting on the AC system.
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    David. I don't see any way. FFR does show in there instructions to cut an access panel into that panel. I thought my way was just neater.
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    So I am about 140 hours into this build and making great progress. It will be leaving for the paint shop probably tomorrow. Here are a few things I got done this week.
    Most of the body fitting went pretty well. I really could not get the hood and the cowl gap to look right. The weight of the hood was forcing the cowl down a bit. I came up with a brace which fixed this problem. The cowl is now solid and the hood fits perfect. Here are a few pics of the brace. Its kind of hard to see it mounted in the car.








    I also found when the car was on the ground at ride height the rear wheels were too far into the wheel wells. I bought 1.25 spacers and they look much better. The pic on the right has the spacers and the left does not.



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    Once I was satisfied with the body, I moved on to the interior. The customer and I discussed padding the dash. I used a self adhesive foam to cover the whole dash then wrapped it in vinyl. I powder coated the gauge hood semi flat black to match.








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    Whew... Great build thread. To the point. Not over the top elaborate. Great builders shine through naturally. With lots of chatter in the interweb on the Gen3 coupe, its nice to see you take a lead with showing it go together. Hats off Mike. Coyote on!!!

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    Plan on making more of the Cowl braces for sale? What kind of space is there between the back of the Coyote and xbrace in the center? I haven't seen any pics of the control pack, I assume you are waiting for it? I'm waiting on my A/C to finish the wiring, then the Coyotes and T-56 will go in.

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    I have the control pack. I plan to mount the ECU through the firewall on the passenger side. Most of it will be inside. I don't see this brace interfering with much. Plenty of room back there. No sure I really want to try and make these. I'm afraid there may be too much variation from car to car. we will see.
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    After reading this thread I just might sell my cobra and build one of these. Nahhh! Excellent information for someone thinking about building one. Thanks for sharing.
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    What kind of headers are those?
    Nice collectors..!

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    they are FFR pieces
    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

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    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

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    So the Coupe is off to the body shop for the first round of body work. My guy will get all the door gaps perfect and then remove the body. I will get back to work on the chassis as soon as I get it back. In the meantime its back to a gen 1 Coupe build. Wish me luck....

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    Looking good!
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