I also want to remind you guys that as many of you are focusing on the car, I am almost more fixated on the proocess of the development. I think that once the initail 818 is launched, be it an affordable roadster/soft top at first (likely), or a track car etc, the truth is that the same body development process that was so challenging because I gave the community such open parameters, can be narrowly focused on a low CofD car body. Take into consideration that Solidworks and their latest versions/add-ons can do human scaling and ergos as well as flowanalysis and you might see why Im so excited. Rapid model development even if these initial models dont hit every category Ive wanted.