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    Rumbles Build

    The Rumbles Build Journal document in now online!

    I have finished my Rumbles Build Journal and put it online for all to download. I've collected, edited, and reformatted all my content from my Rumbles Build thread on FFCars.com into a printable Rumbles Build Journal.PDF document. Its over 110 pages long and contains 140+ illistrations.

    Click here to download the "Rumbles Build Journal.PDF" document

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    Here's the Table of Contents:

    70 Days to Roadworthy
    1/23/10 - My Kit is in the mail4
    1/24/10 Preparing the Rear-end. 4
    1/25/10 Received My Hot Rod Kit Tonight5
    1/26/10 (Day 1) Eliminating the AC and PS pumps on a 4.6 DOHC. 7
    1/29/10 (Day 4) Inventory is completed. 8
    2/7/10 (Day 13) Allot has happened over the past 2 weeks:10
    2/8/10 (Day 14) I received 2 deliveries today:11
    2/12/10 (Day 18) My frame is back from powder coating.12
    2/13/10 (Day 22) Wheels and Tires. 13
    2/17/10 (Day 23) Been making some progress on assembling the chassis. 14
    2/18/10 (Day 24) It’s Nervous System is Alive!15
    2/20/10 (Day 26) The Rapid Flasher problem is fixed!15
    2/24/10 (Day 30) The Eagle has landed!16
    2/26/10 (Day 32) Firewall is in. 17
    2/27/10 (Day 33) The Engine is in. 18
    3/5/10 (Day 38) Engine Management System is done. 20
    3/7/10 (Day 40) The engine cooling system is done. 22
    3/8/10 (Day 41) The exhaust, battery and drive shaft are done. 23
    3/9/10 (Day 42) Critical Path ahead. 24
    3/10/10 (Day 43) Air Intake System.. 27
    3/12/10 (Day 45) Finished the fuel line. 28
    3/14/11 (Day 47) The Moment of Truth. 28
    3/15/10 (Day 48) I got my Pivot Sleeves. 29
    3/29/10 (Day 66) Working My Way Down the Punch list29
    3/31/10 (Day 67) Last few items to get it on the road. 34
    4/1/10 (Day 68) Doors…Doors…Doors….. 34
    4/5/10 (Day 70) Installed the trunk lid, cockpit tin and windshield. 40
    It’s Roadworthy!42

    Cruising and Tweaking the Details
    4/29/10 Alignment problem.. 44
    5/23/10 Refining the Door Latch System.. 44
    5/25/10 Fuel Tank Venting and the Filler Neck. 45
    6/3/10 I Got My Plate. 46
    6/22/10 Herky Jerky Speedo. 46
    6/24/10 Speedometer Problem Fixed. 47
    7/2/10 Interior is complete. 48
    7/13/10 Fixed the Front Alignment51
    7/14/10 Simple Front Alignment with 4 Common Tools. 51
    8/21/10 Hood and side Covers. 54
    9/13/10 Hood Stops. 60
    9/23/10 Fitting the Hard Top. 62
    10/26/10 Final Trim and Mounting the Hard Top. 64
    11/26/10 Installing the Power windows. 65
    1/22/11 Tips on the Willwood Braking System.. 67
    2/19/11 Momma Needs Bling. 68
    3/2/11 Battery Tray. 70
    5/23/11 Sound Deadening. 71
    5/30/11 Final adjustment of outside door handle. 73
    5/29/11 Final power window adjustments. 74
    6/1/11 Weather stripping the doors. 75
    Some Assembly Required….. 80

    Bodywork, Paint and Reassembly
    The Paint Scheme. 83
    Selecting a Body Shop and Painter. 88
    3/22/11 Body Work Update. 90
    3/27/10 Son of Blob. 91
    4/2/11 I See Red!92
    4/4/11 The Hard top is done. 94
    5/1/11 On the Road Again. 95
    5/4/11 Glamour Shots. 96

    Appendix
    List of additional items you need for the build
    Tips for reliable running gear
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    Great work Bill. This should help the first time builders and shows that it still is a "build it yourself" car.

    Henry

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    Watch out Fabio. there's a new coverboy in town!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    I installed the PowerStop brake pads and rotors on all 4 corners today. I have just 2 words to describe them "Problem Solved"!

    Even in the first few break-in hard stops, I was able to lock up the tires on dry pavement. That's a first!

    The difference is dramatic. They feel like power brakes. It takes far less pedal pressure and the stopping power modulates well too.

    That was the best $160 I ever spent.

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    I really enjoyed 2011 SEMA. But what sticks in my mind the most, is this photo. It was great finally meeting you all in person at the FFR builders dinner.

    Dan Ruth (KGB911) in front, From the left, Kai (Kai-Rod), Erik (ehansen007), Can't remember, George (Arrowhead), and Bill (Rumbles)
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    Last edited by Rumbles; 12-19-2011 at 08:26 AM.

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    WOW!! nice looking 33HR you got there Rumbles. It all comes together very nicely when you finally get-er-done! Enjoy the heck out of it and hope to see more pic's of you on here in the future! P.S. Drive it like you stole it!!

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    Bill, Great job!!! Love the paint scheme Amazing how fast you built your car and Build Journal is really great.

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    Hi Bill, Thanks for the update on your '33. Did you ever do any changes to spring or shock rates/settings? Dan has helped me pick shocks for my car and I'll be ordering them soon.

    Best regards, Tom

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    I thought about changing to softer springs in the back. But over time the suspension seems to have loosened up. Its not bad now.

    Part of the problem is there is very weight hanging over the rear of the car. I carry a complete tool bag and and jacks in rear most lower section of the trunk. I carry enough tools and jack so I could just about dis-assemble the entire car. The total weight of the tools is probably 70-80 lbs. Over the past 4000 miles, that balast improved the ride and broke in the shocks as well.

    I plan to leave the rear shocks/springs as is now.

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    Thanks for posting the picture Bill, I was hoping it would turn up sooner or later. I think Ken was the guy in the middle. He is local to Vegas building a hot rod.

    Car looks great BTW, hope to see it in person sometime.

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    Hi Bill, Well maybe I should just gain some weight!!! That should happen over Christmas!

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    Actually, the PIC is ehansen007's. It was buried in photo album.

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    I've been installing the optional FFR tail pipes this week. I'm hoping that will quiet down the cabin a bit.

    Does anyone know if the FFR tail pipes are stainlesss steel?

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    I ordered the wide ones and they are stainless. Down loaded your build and have learned a lot of good stuff. It will help me plan ahead before making any mistakes. Thanks, John B.

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    You'll love the rear exit exhaust, it made a huge difference when I finally got around to installing mine. It's quieter and sounds way better.

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    I'm on vacation this week, so got the tail pipes installed today. I tested my pipes by sanding a small spot and leaving a wet & salty rag on it overnight. There were no rust spots, so it must be staineless steel.

    I sanded and polished the pipes to a nickle like finish. You can see the before and after below.

    Arrowhead, you are right, the tail pipes have a much more civilized zooomy note.

    The only problem is that the right tail pipe passes very close to the fuel lines. Tommorrow's project is to move the fuel line to where they should have been all along, on the driver side of the chassis.

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    An easier test as to whether they are stainless or not would be with a magnate.
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    Thank you, Thank you, Thank you !!! First time user of the forum. To stubborn to learn how (old timer here), I could have saved myself several headaches. Just took my 33 Coupe No. 135 for its' first shake down ride this past weekend. Several things I can improve on thanks to your efforts. Thanks again!!

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    Kit Car Nationals in Carlisle PA May 18-20

    Anyone going to the Kit Car Nationals in Carlisle PA May 18-20?

    Weather permitting, I plan to drive my '33 up from Charlotte.

    Also, I'll be doing a seminar on Saturday Morning called "Build your Kit Car Fast: 70 Days from Crate to Cruise-in"

    For more info, go to http://www.carsatcarlisle.com/events/import/

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    caught a glimpse of your instrument panel. Did you make? have made? can i get one? any ideas to make better? thanks, Todd.

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    The gauge panel was from Haynesline.

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    Sent you a few bucks via PayPal for your manual. Do you by chance know the info for your horn assy? I definitely do not want a dash horn button and liked your idea much better. Thanks for the journal!
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    My build blog: http://jacks33hotrod.blogspot.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by maczter View Post
    Sent you a few bucks via PayPal for your manual. Do you by chance know the info for your horn assy? I definitely do not want a dash horn button and liked your idea much better. Thanks for the journal!
    Thanks...

    The steering wheel that FFR provides is a Grant. There is a matching horn button. See -> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grant-Produc...sories&vxp=mtr

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    I've had a number of requests for my '33 Hot Rod Build Journal, so I updated it and it is now available on Amazon. The title is "Car Builder Journal: Factory Five Racing '33 Hot Rod". Here is the -> link

    Note: There are over 200 photos in the 102 page journal. However, if you view the book on a small Android device, the photos are automatically scaled to a small size as well. The photos are scaled to full size when displayed on a full sized screen PC (using the free Amazon Kindle App).


    Here's the Table of Contents:

    70 Days to Roadworthy
    1/23/10 - My Kit is in the mail4
    1/24/10 Preparing the Rear-end. 4
    1/25/10 Received My Hot Rod Kit Tonight5
    1/26/10 (Day 1) Eliminating the AC and PS pumps on a 4.6 DOHC. 7
    1/29/10 (Day 4) Inventory is completed. 8
    2/7/10 (Day 13) Allot has happened over the past 2 weeks:10
    2/8/10 (Day 14) I received 2 deliveries today:11
    2/12/10 (Day 18) My frame is back from powder coating.12
    2/13/10 (Day 22) Wheels and Tires. 13
    2/17/10 (Day 23) Been making some progress on assembling the chassis. 14
    2/18/10 (Day 24) It’s Nervous System is Alive!15
    2/20/10 (Day 26) The Rapid Flasher problem is fixed!15
    2/24/10 (Day 30) The Eagle has landed!16
    2/26/10 (Day 32) Firewall is in. 17
    2/27/10 (Day 33) The Engine is in. 18
    3/5/10 (Day 38) Engine Management System is done. 20
    3/7/10 (Day 40) The engine cooling system is done. 22
    3/8/10 (Day 41) The exhaust, battery and drive shaft are done. 23
    3/9/10 (Day 42) Critical Path ahead. 24
    3/10/10 (Day 43) Air Intake System.. 27
    3/12/10 (Day 45) Finished the fuel line. 28
    3/14/11 (Day 47) The Moment of Truth. 28
    3/15/10 (Day 48) I got my Pivot Sleeves. 29
    3/29/10 (Day 66) Working My Way Down the Punch list29
    3/31/10 (Day 67) Last few items to get it on the road. 34
    4/1/10 (Day 68) Doors…Doors…Doors….. 34
    4/5/10 (Day 70) Installed the trunk lid, cockpit tin and windshield. 40
    It’s Roadworthy!42

    Cruising and Tweaking the Details
    4/29/10 Alignment problem.. 44
    5/23/10 Refining the Door Latch System.. 44
    5/25/10 Fuel Tank Venting and the Filler Neck. 45
    6/3/10 I Got My Plate. 46
    6/22/10 Herky Jerky Speedo. 46
    6/24/10 Speedometer Problem Fixed. 47
    7/2/10 Interior is complete. 48
    7/13/10 Fixed the Front Alignment51
    7/14/10 Simple Front Alignment with 4 Common Tools. 51
    8/21/10 Hood and side Covers. 54
    9/13/10 Hood Stops. 60
    9/23/10 Fitting the Hard Top. 62
    10/26/10 Final Trim and Mounting the Hard Top. 64
    11/26/10 Installing the Power windows. 65
    1/22/11 Tips on the Willwood Braking System.. 67
    2/19/11 Momma Needs Bling. 68
    3/2/11 Battery Tray. 70
    5/23/11 Sound Deadening. 71
    5/30/11 Final adjustment of outside door handle. 73
    5/29/11 Final power window adjustments. 74
    6/1/11 Weather stripping the doors. 75
    Some Assembly Required….. 80

    Bodywork, Paint and Reassembly
    The Paint Scheme. 83
    Selecting a Body Shop and Painter. 88
    3/22/11 Body Work Update. 90
    3/27/10 Son of Blob. 91
    4/2/11 I See Red!92
    4/4/11 The Hard top is done. 94
    5/1/11 On the Road Again. 95
    5/4/11 Glamour Shots. 96

    Appendix
    List of additional items you need for the build
    Tips for reliable running gear

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    '33 Hot Rod hard top side and rear glass $50

    I'm cleaning out my garage. I have the '33 Hot Rod hard top side and rear glass still in the original box.

    How about $50 OBO +shipping

    Contact me at [email protected] or 704-264-5629

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    Just learned a lot about myself and my future car - even before I got into the garage

    Hello Bill,

    Twice in the last month, I have been down to the Factory Five showroom and have fallen in love with the 33 Hot Rod.
    However, just now, I watched your YouTube presentation on "70 Days, Crate to Cruise-In".
    Your suggestions and recommendations in your slides are quite sobering, but at the same time, you have given me more confidence.
    So, thank you for going an extra mile with the time you put into the presentation.
    (by the way, your build came out looking real nice.)

    Mike (Sparkie)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie View Post
    Hello Bill,

    Twice in the last month, I have been down to the Factory Five showroom and have fallen in love with the 33 Hot Rod.
    However, just now, I watched your YouTube presentation on "70 Days, Crate to Cruise-In".
    Your suggestions and recommendations in your slides are quite sobering, but at the same time, you have given me more confidence.
    So, thank you for going an extra mile with the time you put into the presentation.
    (by the way, your build came out looking real nice.)

    Mike (Sparkie)
    Sparkle,

    Thank you for your kind words.

    Looking back, the 33 hot rod was a great choice for my first car build. The kit is well designed and is relatively easy for a first timer to build. The kit comes with a phone book sized assembly manual with lots of photos. The FF5 tech support team and the other builders on this forum can answer any questions you may have along the way.

    I would say that the two most frequent reasons that a kit is not finished are:
    1. The builder can't devote the time it takes.
    2. The builder tries to do it completly on their own with no help/advice from others.

    I also published my 33 hot rod build journal on Amazon. Its about 200 pages with hundreds of photos, part numbers and helpful details. See post #24 on this thread for a link to it.

    Update: The 33 hot rod was my first car build and I had a lot of fun with it. I drove it across the country and back with no issues.

    I went on to build a SuperLite Coupe (SLC), which was probably 3X more difficult and time consuming. But my effort was rewarded as my yellow SLC has gained national recognition at the 2017 SEMA show and it was featured on several Velocity channel programs such as Gearz and PowerNation.

    My latest project is a scratch built car of my own design called the Tiger 700. I started with a simple line drawing and went on to the clay model phase, a CAD design, and currently I'm fabricating the chassis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumbles View Post
    My latest project is a scratch built car of my own design called the Tiger 700. I started with a simple line drawing and went on to the clay model phase, a CAD design, and currently I'm fabricating the chassis.
    Good to hear from you Bill, thought you might have forgot about us after your walk of fame.

    Do you have somewhere we can follow along on your new build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumbles View Post
    I've had a number of requests for my '33 Hot Rod Build Journal, so I updated it and it is now available on Amazon. The title is "Car Builder Journal: Factory Five Racing '33 Hot Rod". Here is the -> link

    Note: There are over 200 photos in the 102 page journal. However, if you view the book on a small Android device, the photos are automatically scaled to a small size as well. The photos are scaled to full size when displayed on a full sized screen PC (using the free Amazon Kindle App).


    Here's the Table of Contents:

    70 Days to Roadworthy
    1/23/10 - My Kit is in the mail4
    1/24/10 Preparing the Rear-end. 4
    1/25/10 Received My Hot Rod Kit Tonight5
    1/26/10 (Day 1) Eliminating the AC and PS pumps on a 4.6 DOHC. 7
    1/29/10 (Day 4) Inventory is completed. 8
    2/7/10 (Day 13) Allot has happened over the past 2 weeks:10
    2/8/10 (Day 14) I received 2 deliveries today:11
    2/12/10 (Day 18) My frame is back from powder coating.12
    2/13/10 (Day 22) Wheels and Tires. 13
    2/17/10 (Day 23) Been making some progress on assembling the chassis. 14
    2/18/10 (Day 24) It’s Nervous System is Alive!15
    2/20/10 (Day 26) The Rapid Flasher problem is fixed!15
    2/24/10 (Day 30) The Eagle has landed!16
    2/26/10 (Day 32) Firewall is in. 17
    2/27/10 (Day 33) The Engine is in. 18
    3/5/10 (Day 38) Engine Management System is done. 20
    3/7/10 (Day 40) The engine cooling system is done. 22
    3/8/10 (Day 41) The exhaust, battery and drive shaft are done. 23
    3/9/10 (Day 42) Critical Path ahead. 24
    3/10/10 (Day 43) Air Intake System.. 27
    3/12/10 (Day 45) Finished the fuel line. 28
    3/14/11 (Day 47) The Moment of Truth. 28
    3/15/10 (Day 48) I got my Pivot Sleeves. 29
    3/29/10 (Day 66) Working My Way Down the Punch list29
    3/31/10 (Day 67) Last few items to get it on the road. 34
    4/1/10 (Day 68) Doors…Doors…Doors….. 34
    4/5/10 (Day 70) Installed the trunk lid, cockpit tin and windshield. 40
    It’s Roadworthy!42

    Cruising and Tweaking the Details
    4/29/10 Alignment problem.. 44
    5/23/10 Refining the Door Latch System.. 44
    5/25/10 Fuel Tank Venting and the Filler Neck. 45
    6/3/10 I Got My Plate. 46
    6/22/10 Herky Jerky Speedo. 46
    6/24/10 Speedometer Problem Fixed. 47
    7/2/10 Interior is complete. 48
    7/13/10 Fixed the Front Alignment51
    7/14/10 Simple Front Alignment with 4 Common Tools. 51
    8/21/10 Hood and side Covers. 54
    9/13/10 Hood Stops. 60
    9/23/10 Fitting the Hard Top. 62
    10/26/10 Final Trim and Mounting the Hard Top. 64
    11/26/10 Installing the Power windows. 65
    1/22/11 Tips on the Willwood Braking System.. 67
    2/19/11 Momma Needs Bling. 68
    3/2/11 Battery Tray. 70
    5/23/11 Sound Deadening. 71
    5/30/11 Final adjustment of outside door handle. 73
    5/29/11 Final power window adjustments. 74
    6/1/11 Weather stripping the doors. 75
    Some Assembly Required….. 80

    Bodywork, Paint and Reassembly
    The Paint Scheme. 83
    Selecting a Body Shop and Painter. 88
    3/22/11 Body Work Update. 90
    3/27/10 Son of Blob. 91
    4/2/11 I See Red!92
    4/4/11 The Hard top is done. 94
    5/1/11 On the Road Again. 95
    5/4/11 Glamour Shots. 96

    Appendix
    List of additional items you need for the build
    Tips for reliable running gear
    I tried the link however there is only the Kindle version available, is there a separate link for a PC version? It wont let me download unless i have a Kindle. TY!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowhead View Post
    Good to hear from you Bill, thought you might have forgot about us after your walk of fame.

    Do you have somewhere we can follow along on your new build?
    Arrowhead, long time no see!

    I hope all is well with you. Do you still have your 33 Hot Rod?

    My latest build is on the LoCost forum under the Non-Traditional Builds category. The thread title is "Rumbles Tiger 700 Build" -> Click here to go to my thread

    Steel chassis design f34.JPGSide view of model with wheels.jpg

    If you are interested in the SuperLite Coupe, I published my build journal for that project on Amazon as well. Its about 300 pages with hundred of photos, part numbers and lots of details that are not in the assembly manual. Click here for my series of "Car Builder Journal" books.

    SLC 20171125 Studio-12 small.jpg SLC 20171125 Studio-19 small.jpg SLC 20171125 Studio-1 small.jpg SLC 20171125 Studio-6 small.jpg SLC 20171125 Studio-24 small.jpg



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    Quote Originally Posted by AJT '33 View Post
    I tried the link however there is only the Kindle version available, is there a separate link for a PC version? It wont let me download unless i have a Kindle. TY!!
    Yes, my "Car Builder Journals" are in downloadable Kindle format. There is a free Kindle reader App available for Windows, Apple, and Android.

    The reason they are in Kindle format, is that the documents are so long that the printing cost was more than anyone would want to pay.

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