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    I've found a great analog gauge cluster from the Audi S8 series vehicle.

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    Instead of reinventing the wheel and drawing the gauges, I'll use this
    as a background image on the LCD (like a desktop image on your computer)

    Then I'll animate the bar graphs to circle around the numbers. Should save
    a bunch of time!


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    Enough graphic editing...time to align the hood.
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    That's going to be very cool! Looking forward to seeing how this progresses.

    Mike
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    Looking Good Tino keep up with the great design work

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    Thanks boys, it's getting more and more exciting to add features to this system. I have to pat myself on the back after getting over
    the latest hurdle of drawing analog needles to sweep the gauges.

    I've also thrown together some rough indicators for the warning symbols. There are many more needed, but the essentials are shown
    for testing.

    With air scoops replacing the side windows, the poor blind spot becomes even more an issue. I've been able to rig up a sonor system
    coupled with a side view camera that will activate when the right turn signal is engaged. It will be a great help when changing lanes,
    or can alert me when someone is getting too close on either side of the vehicle.

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    Soooooooo awesome!

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    Some of the best gauges I've seen on a GTM. Great work on all the upgrades.

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    Dude, you're clearly having a BLAST building this thing... looks great!

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    Thanks for the awesome compliments everyone - yes, it's a great deal of fun getting the gauges programmed!


    I'm taking a step backward with the rest of the car however; today I pulled most of the interior and under hood
    wires out. A few months ago I scored some "left over" aircraft wire from the workplace that was essentially
    headed for the garbage. In avionics/aviation, any wire that is 'nicked', or cannot make an entire run without
    proper termination is scrapped.


    I've ended up with several lengths of about 5 feet to 15 feet which will cover most of the main harness, and
    exterior wires. The greatest part is this wire is resistant to oxidizing, and also lighter than copper. It will be
    well worth the extra effort to redo everything.


    By the end of next week, I hope to have a little simulation setup with the tach/speedo using a signal generator.
    I'll be sure to upload a video once I figure out how to connect everything via USB.


    Have a good night, and Merry Christmas to all!
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    This video shows an assortment of features, and circuits
    that will be incorporated into the system. I'd say it's about 3/4 complete in terms of graphic quality, and added icons.

    The font needs to change to something "sportier" to match the gauge numerals. I'd also like to clean up the text centering, and icon positions
    once I get the hardware interface working.

    For now, it will serve as a great model to calibrate sensors, and input signals like RPM, VSS, pressure senders, etc.

    Some of the display animations will seem odd if you don't understand the logic of the circuit. For example, the "Check Blind Spot" icon will appear
    if I'm changing lanes with either signal activated AND the sonor system senses a vehicle within one meter of the car.

    The biggest addition is the "Sport Mode" which will appear at => 75% TPS position, or manual selected by a remote touchscreen.
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    Sweet!

    Now I just need a GTM so I can get you to program it for me!

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    Oh my god, your brain is something else, mine would be cooked trying to figure all that out. Amazing.

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    My brain is normally cooked, so this is just an average day for me!

    Just like anything else, with practice and experience it comes fairly easily. The toughest part of programming this system is keeping track of inputs vs. outputs and how they relate
    under certain conditions. After pages of code, it will become a challenge to troubleshoot errors if things are not organized and documented along the way.

    I think I've done a good job of noting which wires will plug into the processor inputs, and have made block diagrams for future reference. The day will come when I'll have to refer
    back to the program and I'll use the diagrams to point to a section of code instead of trying to figure out "the order of operations".

    Right now I'm working on the RPM and VSS emulation; hoping that the processor and system can update the data without making the screen look "choppy". That will be a deal
    breaker, or at least the need to revise my approach.
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    That dash is gonna look great!



    FFR 5369 Pin Drive, IRS, Trigos, Torsen, Wilwoods, FMS BOSS 302 "B" cam , Mass-flo. CA SB100 (SPCN) Registered
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    Thanks David. The code is very similar to C++/C; it actually uses the same libraries and functions, as well as code structure.

    For example:

    void main(), or int main()
    {
    //code
    }

    becomes

    void loop()
    {
    //code
    }

    and void setup() is the initializing area upon booting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukn4trbl View Post
    Thanks David. The code is very similar to C++/C; it actually uses the same libraries and functions, as well as code structure.

    For example:

    void main(), or int main()
    {
    //code
    }

    becomes

    void loop()
    {
    //code
    }

    and void setup() is the initializing area upon booting.
    Yeah... What he said...!
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    Some say, that I only know two facts about ducks, (both being wrong); and that if I could be bothered, I could solve the "da Vinci Code" in 47 seconds...
    All I know is that I'm called "The Stig".
    GTM #0081

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    If the programming talk doesn't make me the nerdiest guy on the site, then this video will! It's just a quick test to make sure there
    is no lag between the tach/vss signal processing to my LCD display.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukn4trbl View Post
    If the programming talk doesn't make me the nerdiest guy on the site, then this video will! It's just a quick test to make sure there
    is no lag between the tach/vss signal processing to my LCD display.
    It's only nerdy in High School. Today, you're the king.

    Very cool stuff in my oppinion!

    Mike
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    Some say, that I only know two facts about ducks, (both being wrong); and that if I could be bothered, I could solve the "da Vinci Code" in 47 seconds...
    All I know is that I'm called "The Stig".
    GTM #0081

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    I found these on Aliexpress.

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-38-...263031951.html

    Be nice if they had 3" - 5" round LCD screens for this application. Was wondering if you were just going to use a square tablet and how you were going to package the screen in the guage cluster area. (This question may be for a time further down the road.)

    Awesome work by the way.

    George Jr.

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    Thanks George,

    Those round LCD's are cool, but they'd be tougher to integrate (for me) into a panel display. I've been looking for a 14x8 LCD that would fit behind
    the steering wheel, and not stick up too much after making a shroud. The best I found is a Samsung, and Toshiba tablet.

    It would be much easier to use a tablet/PC to display the gauges and use the multi-core processor to drive the images. That would allow for other
    options such as data logging, and reduced wiring while the Arduino processor can remain dedicated to data polling of the vehicle sensors.

    That's the plan right now! I've figured out the analog needle movement, and currently working on capturing multiple frequency sources (one for
    RPM, one for VSS), and parsing the information to the display. Video to come soon.
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    Just as a related item, there are a number of programmable dash options just coming online from AIM, Motec, etc. Very cool stuff.
    www.myraceshop.com

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    Ahhh, they're stealing my idea. SUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

    I've checked out a bunch of those for ideas (mainly LCD display), and they have some nice systems available. They are great for track use to log data,
    but I find the screens a bit too compact for ease of laying out all the gauges.

    If I'm not mistaken, Zonda (and supercars) use a similar setup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukn4trbl View Post
    Ahhh, they're stealing my idea. SUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

    I've checked out a bunch of those for ideas (mainly LCD display), and they have some nice systems available. They are great for track use to log data,
    but I find the screens a bit too compact for ease of laying out all the gauges.

    If I'm not mistaken, Zonda (and supercars) use a similar setup?

    motec_c125_dash_logger_display-700x261.png
    More information for your knowledge

    http://www.autometer.com/lcd.html

    http://www.cranksoftware.com/storyboard-suite

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    Only $4300 US+ sensors + accessories + tax.; Good thing I'm making my own!

    I must admit, this is the first time I've seen water pressure on a cluster readout. It's a good way to tell if your water pump is broken, or
    sudden rise in temperature occurs.
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    I saw that beast on my FB feed yesterday. What a beauty; the back end looks wicked too.

    With LCD technology becoming so inexpensive, and easy to implement, I'm guessing all vehicles will move to this
    setup eventually. Less wires/parts, cheaper to repair, freedom of design and updating.

    I just which all these auto mfg's would stop copying me!
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    A big step forward as the gauges are tested in real time using a signal source as opposed to mouse position.

    From here I'll be setting up all the indicators to their respective ports (ie door switch to pin xx, temp sender to pin xx, etc).
    I'd like to have a complete, full working model to test in real time, and work out the bugs
    before getting hooked up to the car. Maybe by mid Feb. if I work hard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukn4trbl View Post
    A big step forward as the gauges are tested in real time using a signal source as opposed to mouse position.

    From here I'll be setting up all the indicators to their respective ports (ie door switch to pin xx, temp sender to pin xx, etc).
    I'd like to have a complete, full working model to test in real time, and work out the bugs
    before getting hooked up to the car. Maybe by mid Feb. if I work hard!
    Nice Tino keep up the great work your doing on this, but yes work hard to get this part of the project done the waiting is killing me

    Ron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukn4trbl View Post
    A big step forward as the gauges are tested in real time using a signal source as opposed to mouse position.

    From here I'll be setting up all the indicators to their respective ports (ie door switch to pin xx, temp sender to pin xx, etc).
    I'd like to have a complete, full working model to test in real time, and work out the bugs
    before getting hooked up to the car. Maybe by mid Feb. if I work hard!

    Do ya need a double dog dare to make you work hard and meet the deadline?

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    uhhhh, no Ron...I mean Ash, I don't need a DDD (< clever).

    I could use some dates for the Summer open house however!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukn4trbl View Post
    uhhhh, no Ron...I mean Ash, I don't need a DDD (< clever).

    I could use some dates for the Summer open house however!
    You want a date for the Summer open house?

    Five dollah. Love you long time.

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    A date? You mean, you'll fly to Toronto and we'll cruise down to Boston in the GTM?

    5 dollah...is that US funds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukn4trbl View Post
    I could use some dates for the Summer open house however!
    Sheeesh Tino You don't have access to the net up there in the North land? You don't read the forums, or the Factory Five Web site with full blown rapture? You been hanging out with the Taz man too much? Do we have to do EVERTHING for you?

    Well here's your sign:

    Factory Five Open House – June 13th, Wareham, MA http://www.factoryfive.com/news-events/2015-schedule/


    So as they say listen to the following and Get-Er-Done

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    Give him a break, Ron.

    He's busy spending his 5 Dollah. Got to go, Long Time isn't over yet.

    BTW, Tino...you get a break...I'm charging you in Canadian funds. Which means its actually, like, 4 dollah. Or 12 pesos.

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    Ron, I swear that list wasn't there last week when I checked.
    Didn't think it would be there yet, but saw some mention of
    Winter Moochfest which prompted me to post without reviewing
    the Events Page.

    If it makes you feel better, I just submitted and approved the
    Vacation request for June 13th all by myself.

    If that's not good enough, you can have Taz all for
    yourself that weekend.
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    That's great I'm proud of you young man to submit for time off. Now.....

    Have you made hotel room reservations for that weekend? Just when you thought you were done, you have more work to do.

    Ok I will help the brothers up North make your reservations at Fairfield Inn & Suites New Bedford Their number is 774-634-2000

    Tell them you are a customer of Factory Five Racing and they will give you a $99.00 rate .... That's U.S. Dollah

    Don't forget to ask for extra time off like maybe 11th to 15th for two reasons....

    1 I hear that there might be a cookout, by an infamous GTM owner that lives up there, just maybe.
    2. If get there early we just might take you and your very lovely wife out to dinner.

    What say you Tino?

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    Ron, I plan on arriving by Friday around 6:00 PM, and leaving Sunday by noon. At the moment, it seems like I'll be flying solo (perhaps a buddy to tag along)
    as my wife will be hanging with the little one.

    From what I can imagine, Saturday will be spent on the FFR grounds for most of the day, and then we will all split off and do our thing?
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    Tino, we can sure play it by ear on the Open House. Now.....

    Back to work on the gauge project Pilgrim, and no more lollygagging

    Ron
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    Its officially your month, Tino. Seriously...look at the calendar!

    Its got to be finished by the last day!

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    Settle down Northpole, "I got this". Video to come tomorrow.

    Does anyone have access to a high res. , bird's eye view of a GTM?
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    One more video to the collection. I'm very sorry about the poor video flow, and examples as it's very difficult to record and adjust tiny little dials with one hand!

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