Breeze Battery Box Install

[ggunter]

Hello All, I can't get enough of reading this forum, sooo many talented people. I just got the Breeze Engine Bay Battery Box and the picture shows it being mounted to a square tube X member in the front between the main frame and the X member. My X member is round, I don't think there will be enough support mounting to a round X member. The box will likely be swinging with no support and quickly loose its mounting bolts. Is there any lower support to the box that mounts elsewhere on the frame to add support? Or did I miss something?

[edwardb]

Until Mk4's, that front X-member was made from square tubes. Mk4's changed to a round tube. Looks better plus more authentic. Mark's pictures obviously still show the older version. The box mounts just fine to the round tubes following his instructions. It attaches to both the X-member tubes and the 4-inch chassis tube. Not going anywhere.

[GTBradley]

Dont try this at home...I went to jack my Mk4 up sometime ago at the center of the 4” tube. I positioned the jack and then got distracted, when I came back the jack had been moved and was under the battery tray instead. I gave the jack enough pumps to raise the car off the wheels by an inch. When I noticed the problem I carefully lowered the car and inspected for what I thought would be serious damage to the battery tray. To my surprise there was the slightest hickey on the bottom of the tray. So, X2 on what Paul said, it isn't going anywhere.

[ggunter]

Excellent thanks, that's what I needed to know before I unpacked everything. As long as it has other attaching points it should be fine.

[ggunter]

By the way, very nice looking install on the battery and cable routing.

[BradCraig]

Dont try this at home...I went to jack my Mk4 up sometime ago at the center of the 4” tube. I positioned the jack and then got distracted, when I came back the jack had been moved and was under the battery tray instead. I gave the jack enough pumps to raise the car off the wheels by an inch. When I noticed the problem I carefully lowered the car and inspected for what I thought would be serious damage to the battery tray. To my surprise there was the slightest hickey on the bottom of the tray. So, X2 on what Paul said, it isn't going anywhere.

My jack slipped off the 4" and did the same thing, bent it a little. Doh!

[ggunter]

Installed the Breeze battery box over the weekend, It was a breeze.

[MB750]

Until Mk4's, that front X-member was made from square tubes. Mk4's changed to a round tube. Looks better plus more authentic. Mark's pictures obviously still show the older version. The box mounts just fine to the round tubes following his instructions. It attaches to both the X-member tubes and the 4-inch chassis tube. Not going anywhere.

I know it's over two years old, but thanks for this pic. I'm installing it now and the instructions are lacking in good, clear pictures.

[paynerc]

I just received the Breeze battery relocation kit this week and last night went out to do some quick trial fitting. Initially looking at it it seems to be a bit... un-square... up front. I snapped a few pictures but really didn't have much time to mess with it.

When going to mount this, is it better to mount flush to the 4" round tube and make adjustments on the cross member, or the other way around?

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[Tooth]

I just received the Breeze battery relocation kit this week and last night went out to do some quick trial fitting. Initially looking at it it seems to be a bit... un-square... up front. I snapped a few pictures but really didn't have much time to mess with it.

When going to mount this, is it better to mount flush to the 4" round tube and make adjustments on the cross member, or the other way around?

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If I remember correctly, there are spacers or washers to take up the slack. I don't remember having that much space, but there was some.

[paynerc]

If I remember correctly, there are spacers or washers to take up the slack. I don't remember having that much space, but there was some.

There are washer included but that seems to be excessive. The box itself looks to be very square. I guess I really need to get up under there and see what is going on with it.

[dbo_texas]

There are washer included but that seems to be excessive. The box itself looks to be very square. I guess I really need to get up under there and see what is going on with it.

Rivet to the front X-member, then fill in any gaps to the horizontal 4" round frame using washers. It will be rock-solid after you tighten everything down. I had a similar large gap on mine and I used 3 or 4 washers to fill the gap. Here is a clear picture showing the washers during my install:

[egchewy79]

I just received the Breeze battery relocation kit this week and last night went out to do some quick trial fitting. Initially looking at it it seems to be a bit... un-square... up front. I snapped a few pictures but really didn't have much time to mess with it.

When going to mount this, is it better to mount flush to the 4" round tube and make adjustments on the cross member, or the other way around?

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your gap seems larger than I recall mine looking. use washers to take up the gap. should be included in the kit. hardest part was trying to transfer the location of the hole you need to drill/tap into the frame. slotting the hole on the box helps.
I also taped the washers together after I was tired of dropping washers on the ground as I was trying to line up the bolt w/ the tapped hole in the frame.

[OB6]

Mine had the same gap, but I chose not to use washers. I mounted to the horizontal member first, then to the diagonal one. Cleaner look and a more direct connection. There's enough flex in the front plate to make up the gap. No, the front plate isn't perfectly square after doing this, but the only way to tell is by measuring or using a square to check. You'd never know there was a gap.

[paynerc]

Mine had the same gap, but I chose not to use washers. I mounted to the horizontal member first, then to the diagonal one. Cleaner look and a more direct connection. There's enough flex in the front plate to make up the gap.

So you just more or less "bent" the plate to touch? I was thinking that would look better but hadn't really gotten that far yet. Looks like you added a third screw to mount to the 4 inch tube?

[OB6]

So you just more or less "bent" the plate to touch? I was thinking that would look better but hadn't really gotten that far yet. Looks like you added a third screw to mount to the 4 inch tube?

Yes, but "bend" is more aggressive than it really is. I did add an extra screw, although the need for it is debatable.

[gbranham]

It's been a few months since I installed mine, but if memory serves, the installation instructions talk about both the round x-member, and the unsquare geometry, and how to overcome it. I will concede that Mark's products, while excellent quality, do not have great instructions to match.

[nashuanuke]

Dont try this at home...I went to jack my Mk4 up sometime ago at the center of the 4” tube. I positioned the jack and then got distracted, when I came back the jack had been moved and was under the battery tray instead. I gave the jack enough pumps to raise the car off the wheels by an inch. When I noticed the problem I carefully lowered the car and inspected for what I thought would be serious damage to the battery tray. To my surprise there was the slightest hickey on the bottom of the tray. So, X2 on what Paul said, it isn't going anywhere.

Yeah I don't know how Mark does it, but his engineering and fabrication makes up for my totally amateur build. Despite never tapping a screw before in my life, I've got it in there and it is solid.