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    Factory Five GTM Supercar, fastthings video build log

    Hi everyone,
    I'm Gene. I have started a video build log. I am a couple weeks into it, here we go.

    http://youtu.be/qQLWQK9jBYk

    http://youtu.be/50bmdsrIfBA

    Let me know if I am missing something, please.
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    And here is part 3.

    http://youtu.be/_nlSySq84YM

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    Gene,
    This is what I'll be using on my hatch. I'll use it for mock up and reinstall for my final seal.


    McMaster Carr. 1120A311 16 Ft. Edge-grip Rubber Seal, Bulb Opposite Grabber, 3/16" Edge, 3/8" Bulb Width .
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    Quote Originally Posted by VD2021 View Post
    Gene,
    This is what I'll be using on my hatch. I'll use it for mock up and reinstall for my final seal.


    McMaster Carr. 1120A311 16 Ft. Edge-grip Rubber Seal, Bulb Opposite Grabber, 3/16" Edge, 3/8" Bulb Width .
    Ya, I could not find in the manual what seal they want us to use. Regardless, that one fits the bill. I'll go with that also. If I find that I robbed a part that I may need later I will get more.

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    Just checked out your update...Thanks!

    Later....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRoy View Post
    Just checked out your update...Thanks!

    Later....
    Yep, here is #4, ruff fit the hood.

    http://youtu.be/Tx18C0T_BQI

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    Gene,
    Another nice video. Just wanted to point out a few items I am seeing right now with my hood. I am still working it to a nice happy median. You may have addressed these, but just incase.

    1. There needs to be enough space for the wiper to be mounted and operate. Unless you're not running one.
    2. The rise of the upper radiator hose elbow needs clearance as to not have the hood causing any unnecessary stress. Just means the front needs to be adjusted higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VD2021 View Post
    Gene,
    Another nice video. Just wanted to point out a few items I am seeing right now with my hood. I am still working it to a nice happy median. You may have addressed these, but just incase.

    1. There needs to be enough space for the wiper to be mounted and operate. Unless you're not running one.
    2. The rise of the upper radiator hose elbow needs clearance as to not have the hood causing any unnecessary stress. Just means the front needs to be adjusted higher.

    Oh. nice tips, thank you.

    I am doing the door now, and want to apply power to the window motor. Shouldn't I be able to put power to the motor, one way or anather to make it go up and down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastthings View Post
    Oh. nice tips, thank you.

    I am doing the door now, and want to apply power to the window motor. Shouldn't I be able to put power to the motor, one way or anather to make it go up and down?
    If you're asking. 12v DC applied to the terminals and just reverse it for the opposite direction. If you have a 12v battery pack from a battery powered tool its very convenient. A 9.6v hobby battery pack will work too.

    I sent you a PM.
    Last edited by VD2021; 10-24-2011 at 09:55 AM.
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    Mornig guy's. I got passenger door news.

    http://youtu.be/xjqXvareM5A

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    Holly crap, fitting the door glass is tough. I feel bad for guys paying someone to do this stuff, lots of back and forth stuff. It will be interesting to see haw quik the other door goes, after doing one for the first time.

    http://youtu.be/yxwccUtGzX4

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    http://youtu.be/M4BmIjb6wnk

    Working window. Glad to get that far, still a ton af work to do on the door. I'm looking for new seals for the door and window, same design but thicker, any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastthings View Post
    http://youtu.be/M4BmIjb6wnk

    Working window. Glad to get that far, still a ton af work to do on the door. I'm looking for new seals for the door and window, same design but thicker, any ideas?
    Get a bottle of Jack
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    My Nemesis............
    R/s
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    Quote Originally Posted by VD2021 View Post
    My Nemesis............
    While doing a search for seals on the forum, I noticed that I took on the tough side first, huh. I read lots of threads dealing with the window, lots of frustrations. I was able to get it done, as intended by FFR.

    Anyway, I did not find a good source of seals to choose from, anyone have ideas, without the bottle of Jack, I like a blended whiskey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastthings View Post
    While doing a search for seals on the forum, I noticed that I took on the tough side first, huh. I read lots of threads dealing with the window, lots of frustrations. I was able to get it done, as intended by FFR.

    Anyway, I did not find a good source of seals to choose from, anyone have ideas, without the bottle of Jack, I like a blended whiskey.
    McMaster has a huge selection of seals. Though I have not seen any with felt or flock.

    Did you do the track on the aft vertical? I like the potential of more stability and better sealing with the glass in the closed position. However it will not affect the glass until it’s almost in the fully closed position. I am planning to use the SPW UC-1 and CRL 10G96 if I add the track. Did you find a salvage alternative in your search?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastthings View Post
    While doing a search for seals on the forum, I noticed that I took on the tough side first, huh. I read lots of threads dealing with the window, lots of frustrations. I was able to get it done, as intended by FFR.

    Anyway, I did not find a good source of seals to choose from, anyone have ideas, without the bottle of Jack, I like a blended whiskey.
    Don't think you're gettting off easy by doing the right side first....Just wait till you get to the left side door

    Ok so the bottle of Jack is not for you, have you look at the C-5 door and window seals??? The GTM has it's DNA just wondering if the Vette stuff could be modified to work.
    "May you be in heaven a full half hour before the Devil knows you're dead"

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    Good Stuff Gene....

    When you get this done I'll supply a bottle of Mason County drip or Crown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Presto51 View Post
    Don't think you're gettting off easy by doing the right side first....Just wait till you get to the left side door

    Ok so the bottle of Jack is not for you, have you look at the C-5 door and window seals??? The GTM has it's DNA just wondering if the Vette stuff could be modified to work.
    Is it the driver side that gives everyone troubles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastthings View Post
    Is it the driver side that gives everyone troubles?
    Both require hours and hours of work. The Driver's side may take you a few less, but chances are you will not say it was easier. The doors are different. Driver's is thicker and the frames are not the same.........
    Last edited by VD2021; 11-24-2011 at 02:21 PM.
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    My question would be is why is the doors so time consuming. Would be nice if someone from FFR would chime in and give a reason why there are so many modifications to get the windows/latches and most importantly the seals to work. I'm fortunate to have a dad that is creative with fiberglass and will help rework these doors. Maybe FFr should have made their own window lift mechanism instead of using the corvettes. Did they not have these difficulties when assembling/test fitting before production began?
    I am very thankful for the crew here on the forum helping out with video's like this and advice to what to do and what not to do. This will definitely help when my time arrives to tackle these doors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RF RIDER View Post
    My question would be is why is the doors so time consuming. Would be nice if someone from FFR would chime in and give a reason why there are so many modifications to get the windows/latches and most importantly the seals to work. I'm fortunate to have a dad that is creative with fiberglass and will help rework these doors. Maybe FFr should have made their own window lift mechanism instead of using the corvettes. Did they not have these difficulties when assembling/test fitting before production began?
    I am very thankful for the crew here on the forum helping out with video's like this and advice to what to do and what not to do. This will definitely help when my time arrives to tackle these doors.
    Your time is consumed solving and fixing issues. It takes hours initially just to get the door frame initially fitted to the body. As you progress through the steps you continually run into issues that you have to address. Some require you to go through most of the initial steps again. Ultimately I believe the majority of the time is spent trying to get a decent seal if you stay frame-less or redoing the donor tracks and creating a full frame if you go that route.
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    Well, it's no joke. I'm still not done with that door. I now am going to use partial frame up the post on the door.
    Still have to work out a seal for the door. I'll get it, and it will be good.

    RF RIDER, I think they havn't done it because it's not easy.
    Ya know, I have no complaints to FFR. The kit is what it is. Sure ya got to work at it, but the reward must be immense. For me the first time I saw one I was hooked. If you want one, put your head down, and plow threw it, and smile. That's what I'm doing. And yes, I have been reading the other for a year or so, and this this forum since it's start, it makes it nice for all, all our cars end up being better than not.

    None of us are as smart as all of us, right.

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    Well I got the door sitting in much better form. Still need to take it back apart and paint the internals. Then all I have left is to get it to seal without wanting to bind the door while it shuts.

    http://youtu.be/Y9_3FkCdzpY

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    http://youtu.be/XKKWhL4wNXE

    I got the passenger door 80% done, now time to do it again on the other side. Looking forward to it only taking half the time, now that I know what I'm after.
    Last edited by fastthings; 12-05-2011 at 04:43 PM.

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    Well after a little distraction called life I have the drivers door done now. Moveing on to the hood.

    http://youtu.be/5BhFUL_72jM

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    Video 11, bodywork on the hood.

    http://youtu.be/_fYkOqT0efk

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    Gene very nice work on the hood.

    Coffee came out my nose when I laugh at the PIA comment at the end though, now I have to change my shirt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presto51 View Post
    Gene very nice work on the hood.

    Coffee came out my nose when I laugh at the PIA comment at the end though, now I have to change my shirt
    That's funny.

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    I really like seeing this videos. They are full of useful information. Thanks for sharing all those years of knowledge with us in those very detailed videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kempo View Post
    I really like seeing this videos. They are full of useful information. Thanks for sharing all those years of knowledge with us in those very detailed videos.

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    Thanks,

    Hey Kempo, I have the ISIS touch also, have not even got it out of the box yet. I've been thinking of what to have on a regular switch, or just run from the touch. What are you doing?

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    Same as Kempo:

    Thank you for posting these detailed videos of your progress and sharing your techniques. I'm glad you reached the door stage before I did, and that I can steal some tips from you!

    These windows are giving me nightmares just reading about the difficulties. I've often thought about alternatives , like some sort of fixed window that can be removed like a
    t-top and stored in the car when not needed...

    ummm, alright...it's not the greatest Idea, but it would probably be easier than spending two weeks on one door, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastthings View Post
    Thanks,

    Hey Kempo, I have the ISIS touch also, have not even got it out of the box yet. I've been thinking of what to have on a regular switch, or just run from the touch. What are you doing?
    I will not be using a regular switch with a key. The inTouch requires that you splice the yellow wire (IIRC) on its harness to add a switch to turn off the screen. My plan is to hide that switch somewhere in the car. That hidden switch and the 6 digit code in the system should be safe enough for a car I won't be leaving parked just anywhere.
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    Great videos: When done you should make a cd of all of them and sell the cd. I bet a lot of new GTM buyers wood buy it. Alot of old ones all so. I know I would. I wish I had your tallent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lrt1941 View Post
    Great videos: When done you should make a cd of all of them and sell the cd. I bet a lot of new GTM buyers wood buy it. Alot of old ones all so. I know I would. I wish I had your tallent.
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    Wow,thanks. It's all on youtube, for free. I guess it would be nice on cd. That's why i put it on youtube though is becaue I don't have to store it forever, and youtube will.

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    Gene,
    Outstanding. This is the most informing video log yet. You are talented. What's next?
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    http://youtu.be/UwNcN6fVVWw

    Hood pretty much ready for primer. Time to work on the hatch.

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    "thats a good place for that" too funny.

    Watched to whole thing, you are a craftsman!

    Noticed a few things slightly off, the LS2 first came in the 05 Vette and Shane lives in Iowa.

    Please keep the videos coming, very informative.

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    Ya I couldn't remember the year, now that you say that, I think it's out of a 06. It's been a year. And I guess I never knew where Shane was, another bad guess.

    Thanks Kalstar

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