Interior aluminum panels question

[Mastertech5]

I got my packaged aluminum box today and went through it to check inventory. I have 4 pieces (2 each of right and left) that are described as cockpit front striker covers and Rt. and Lt. Cockpit rear upper corners. I can't figure out how or where they are suppose to go. Picture below.

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Help please.

[RoadRacer]

Those big bits are hard to describe, but go inside the rear body, above the door hinges

[RoadRacer]

Here you go, page 397 in my manualCursor_and_Hot_Rod_Manual_3G__gen2__pdf.png


(if you don't have the manual as a PDF, ask them for one, or there may be a link on the website. it's super handy being able to search for "striker plate" or similar)

[Mastertech5]

I have both manuals and I haven't seen that picture in mine, yet any way. No idea about the other ones?
Thanks James
I found the description for the other pieces on the page before that but the piece looks different. Gen.1 picture probably.

Bruce

[RoadRacer]

Yeah I'm using version 3G, which was an early Gen2 manual.

[33fromSD]

The triangular shaped ones are the striker plate bracket covers

Jim

[Mastertech5]

The triangular shaped ones are the striker plate bracket covers

Jim

I found that on page 395. It looks different than the picture though.Why do they call it a striker cover plate that covers the hinge area when a striker is the pin that the latch grabs when you close the door?

[33fromSD]

I found that on page 395. It looks different than the picture though.Why do they call it a striker cover plate that covers the hinge area when a striker is the pin that the latch grabs when you close the door?

As noted above, it covers the striker plate (the front pin). Mine is installed with carpet glued to it already so I cannot show you, but it goes up front by the striker.

See the attached pic from the manual, the slot in the aluminum cover goes over the tab I point to in the attached pic.

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Jim

[Mastertech5]

Now that makes more sense. What was I looking at then on page 396? The picture looks like frame in the back just behind the door opening. I know I need new glasses but man.

[Mastertech5]

I have another question about the firewall. I have the foot boxes and firewall clamped in place, but not having the body yet, I don't want to attach it to the frame in the wrong position. I drew a centerline on the top of the frame at the firewall and one on the firewall, so I have it centered and the foot boxes seem to be in the right positions but I'm worried about the height to mate to the body properly. Is anyone out there with a full kit at a point where they could measure from the ends of the frame top section and at the center to the top of the firewall at those positions. I have 4 5/8 on the ends and 4 7/8 in the middle. All suggestions are welcome.

[RoadRacer]

I had to read pg107 again but I don’t remember any care needed in this section- dont the foot boxes just fit in one place and the firewall on top? I fitted mine without even owning stage 2 and never gave it any thought

[33fromSD]

Now that makes more sense. What was I looking at then on page 396? The picture looks like frame in the back just behind the door opening. I know I need new glasses but man.

My Gen2 did not have that aluminum panel shown on Pg 396.. It's not really needed anyways and the waterfall covers that whole area. Also, I'm glad it wasn't in my kit since I've removed my waterfall a couple times now needing to access that area (once to adjust the hinges, and once to troubleshoot a speaker wire issue going into the doors.

Jim

[33fromSD]

I had to read pg107 again but I don’t remember any care needed in this section- dont the foot boxes just fit in one place and the firewall on top? I fitted mine without even owning stage 2 and never gave it any thought

Short answer is yes.

Longer answer is if you purchased the insulation kit, there are firewall pieces that are precut that sit on top of the firewall frame square tube you can uses a template. The top edge of that insulation piece will line up with the top edge of the aluminum firewall panel. See the instructions below, they are from the Gen1 era but that firewall pieces didn't change to Gen2.

--> https://www.factoryfiveparts.com/con...insulation.pdf

On the body, there is an indent / lip sits that sits on top of the aluminum panel, it's more important to make sure the firewall aluminum panel is parallel to the upper frame square tube so the body sits level up front.

Jim

[TxMike64]

My Gen1.5 kit doesn't have the pieces with the slots, but has the striker covers... Who knows. I've looked at 4 different versions of the manual and not one of them seems to have all the info needed for this kit...

Short answer is yes.
Longer answer is if you purchased the insulation kit, there are firewall pieces that are precut that sit on top of the firewall frame square tube you can uses a template. The top edge of that insulation piece will line up with the top edge of the aluminum firewall panel. See the instructions below, they are from the Gen1 era but that firewall pieces didn't change to Gen2.
--> https://www.factoryfiveparts.com/con...insulation.pdf
On the body, there is an indent / lip sits that sits on top of the aluminum panel, it's more important to make sure the firewall aluminum panel is parallel to the upper frame square tube so the body sits level up front.
Jim

The timing is great for this info as I'm preparing to install my firewall this weekend. Good points, thanks Jim!

Another question this brings up: those instructions show a "waterfall insulation" piece in the diagram, then the next picture shows it under the gas tank. Is this the proper location? I was going to put a rubber mat under the tank, but now can do this.

-Mike

[Mastertech5]

My Gen1.5 kit doesn't have the pieces with the slots, but has the striker covers... Who knows. I've looked at 4 different versions of the manual and not one of them seems to have all the info needed for this kit...



The timing is great for this info as I'm preparing to install my firewall this weekend. Good points, thanks Jim!

Another question this brings up: those instructions show a "waterfall insulation" piece in the diagram, then the next picture shows it under the gas tank. Is this the proper location? I was going to put a rubber mat under the tank, but now can do this.

-Mike

That piece goes on the back side of the waterfall on the fiberglass. It says to clean the fiberglass in the instructions. I used a stick on ice shield for roofing under my tank. I had to bang the tank in place with my palm. Roofing tar paper would be a little thinner. Similar to what OEMs use on metal gas tanks against the frame. The picture is a lighting glitch.

[Mastertech5]

Your absolutely right Jim! I did order the insulation kit. It came with my first batch of POL stuff. I knew someone would have a good answer. Thanks for the info! You helped 2 people today.

[Mastertech5]

I had to read pg107 again but I don’t remember any care needed in this section- dont the foot boxes just fit in one place and the firewall on top? I fitted mine without even owning stage 2 and never gave it any thought

Street Rod Jim had trouble on the driver's side firewall to body gap. The hole he drilled at one spot on the body was only about 3/4 on the fiberglass and he had to add some to encircle the rivnut. I know it should be centered and level, I just wasn't sure about the height.

[33fromSD]

That piece goes on the back side of the waterfall on the fiberglass. It says to clean the fiberglass in the instructions. I used a stick on ice shield for roofing under my tank. I had to bang the tank in place with my palm. Roofing tar paper would be a little thinner. Similar to what OEMs use on metal gas tanks against the frame. The picture is a lighting glitch.

I had enough for a piece under the tank (made sure all other locations were covered) and on the waterfall piece I stuck it to the aluminum, not the fiberglass, worked out well.

Jim

[Mastertech5]

I believe one piece goes on the aluminum rear cockpit panel and one on the back of the waterfall, but whatever works. That's why they're custom builds!

[33fromSD]

I believe one piece goes on the aluminum rear cockpit panel and one on the back of the waterfall, but whatever works. That's why they're custom builds!

All good, I actually put DEI Boom Mat (thermal/accoustic mat) on the back side of the panel from underneath so same/same, just a different approach.

Jim