Folks,
Anyone know if this oil pan fits and doesn't hang too low on the frame?
Canton Racing Products
15-660 For Ford 351W For Front T Sump Street Road Race Pan
It says 8" deep and I think that means it sits too low.
Yes?
Dan
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Folks,
Anyone know if this oil pan fits and doesn't hang too low on the frame?
Canton Racing Products
15-660 For Ford 351W For Front T Sump Street Road Race Pan
It says 8" deep and I think that means it sits too low.
Yes?
Dan
I just measured 3 cars in my shop yesterday for a customer with an upcoming build…when using Energy Suspension mounts with a Windsor anything deeper than 7.5” will be below the frame rails.
Jeff
Thanks Jeff. That is what I thought. Pointer towards an oil pan that works?
Best price you'll find on oil pans;
https://kevkoracing.com/pages/ford-oil-pans
Mrk III, 331 stroker, Borla stack injection, T5, 3:55 IRS, Power steering and brakes. Kleiner body & paint
Check out Aviaid. Those were the original pans in the early cobras and daytonas. Great baffles. Little pricey, but good quality. I have a 6.5" deep pan. Here is a link: https://aviaid.com/shopsite_sc/store...ilpns_sbf.html
Have to keep in mind what depth the oil pimp pick up sits in the pan.
I compiled a few:
CP351LT-RR (champpans.com)
F501-RR - 302F502-RR - 351WSportsman Road Race – KEVKO (kevkoracing.com)
Canton Racing Products 15-694S 351W Ford Oil Pan
Moroso 20534 Moroso Wet Sump Road Race Baffled Oil Pans | Summit Racing
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Kevin
MKIV #8234
Coyote '14/TKO-600/3-Link 3:55 Rear
I love the smell of 100 octane in the morning.
NITTO NT01 275X40X17ZR - 315X35ZRX17
Delivered 2/7/14 - Plate "COYOTE NC1965" 3/25/15
The engine may have the 649s on it. Thanks all
Good post as I was thinking the stock pan would work just fine.
When I bought my MkII from the original builder I immediately started running autocrosses. About the 3rd AX I heard some engine noise so limped it home. Pulled the pan. It was a front sump w/ absolutely no baffles of any kind. And the rear wall of that sump was at about a 45degree angle up to the shallow end. My thought was that every hard accel the oil ran up that rear wall and it lost oil pressure. I had spun a rod bearing, so new rod, machined crank and bought a road race pan from Breeze. So a REAR SUMP stock pan may be OK but not a front sump.
FFR MkII, 408W, Tremec TKO 500, 2015 IRS, DA QA1s, Forte front bar, APE hardtop.
A stock pan is fine if you don't take the car on a track. These cars corner hard enough that you will push the oil away from the pickup and you'll be pumping air. Been there, done that, saw my pressure gauge drop to zero on a hard turn, while on the street, not even a track. That was on my 1st engine with a stock pan. I now have a Kevco, with trap doors, crank scrapper and windage tray, no more pressure loss, no matter how hard it gets pitched.
Mrk III, 331 stroker, Borla stack injection, T5, 3:55 IRS, Power steering and brakes. Kleiner body & paint
I've been using the champ Road race gated oil pan for a 302 with great success on my last 2 builds.
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I too had a stock pan and saw bearing damage from hard cornering during back country road driving. I now have a Canton road race front sump 8 quart pan with all the bells and whistles. The engine mounts are are the mustang convertible type which, I believe, sit the engine a little lower. Made a couple of skid rails that are mounted to the bottom of the 4 inch round tubes. Protects the pan sump from speed bumps etc. Nothing is going to protect the pan if you centre punch an object higher than the rails anyway.
HTH
Norm
Mk4 base kit 7721, 331 Stroker, Holley Sniper EFI, Wipers, Heater, Whitby Soft Top, Drop trunk mod and more
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I'm new to all of this...starting my first build with a donor car and engine is in the shop for overhaul. I see in the documentation that a shallow pan is needed, and this thread is very helpful. If all I am going to be doing is weekend joy riding, can I stick with the factory oil pan on a 2002 4.6L? It's rather expensive to get a decent shallow pan, pickup, pump, etc. Thank you.
Reach out to Mike Forte, he's got a 7.5 inch Moroso. (508) 875-0016
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Forte 427 Fuel Injected with TKX Transmission
Forte's Axle
MOROSO trap door pan. Mounted its above the frame rails. Use 8qts in it.
Plate that covers the sump.
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Kevin
MKIV #8234
Coyote '14/TKO-600/3-Link 3:55 Rear
I love the smell of 100 octane in the morning.
NITTO NT01 275X40X17ZR - 315X35ZRX17
Delivered 2/7/14 - Plate "COYOTE NC1965" 3/25/15
You will not need a new pump as the pickups are interchangable. Just buy the pickup matched to the pan.
A pan hanging below the frame rails can be gone on your first trip to the supermarket if you hit a speed bump. My ride height is 4"X4.5" and have kissed some speed bumps moving very slowly. Frame rails kept all the expensive parts safe.
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Kevin
MKIV #8234
Coyote '14/TKO-600/3-Link 3:55 Rear
I love the smell of 100 octane in the morning.
NITTO NT01 275X40X17ZR - 315X35ZRX17
Delivered 2/7/14 - Plate "COYOTE NC1965" 3/25/15
I am thinking about this pan for a 427 SBF build. I like the 'combo packs' Summit has for the MkIV. 7.5" depth. Thoughts?
Milodon 31630 Milodon Pro Touring Oil Pans | Summit Racing
Built an early MkIII years ago, sold years ago.
Got Corvettes out of my system, and now back after 18 years to build a MkIV.
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Like David, I went with a Champ Pan for my 302 https://www.champpans.com/products/p/cp302lt-rr/.
I bought it from Gordon Levy. If you call Gordon & Mike Forte and ask their advice, you'll have your answer.
John
MK IV Roadster #8631
Ford 302, Holley Terminator EFI, T5z, 3.55 Rear End, IRS, 17” Halibrand Replicas (9” front, 10.5” rear), Nitto 555 G2’s (275/40ZR17 front, 315/35ZR17 rear), Fast Freddie’s Power Steering, F5 Wilwood Brakes, FFMetal’s Firewall Forward, Forte’s Hydraulic Clutch & Throttle Linkage
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