Design ideas-benchmarking from the best

[Bill_H]

I think the Lamborghini Sesto Elemento might be too radical overall, but I like the visible transaxle as a design detail

[Niburu]

Something along the lines of a Noble M12 would also work I think.

[LiquidPT]

Love the Alfa. Let me throw out something completely different to see if it inspires anything:


Morgan Aero Super Sport

[05xtsy]

Progress

[keys2heaven]

^^^ I like the top.

Are there skirts over the wheels? Working on a front/rear/top/isometric view?

[05xtsy]

Thanks! yes, over the coming months I will be doing all of those views and then putting it into 3D solidworks for a final render.

[05xtsy]

Are there skirts over the wheels?

No, wheels take a good amount of time to get right. I'm going to design a split 5 spoke. I have already quickly sketched them and it makes the car look really good.

[keys2heaven]

05xtsy....will/can top be stowable in vehicle?

[Brian Z]

My vote is for this guy..... hehehe



Brian @ FFR

[05xtsy]

05xtsy....will/can top be stowable in vehicle?

Hadn't thought about it, but now that you bring it up, maybe I can work it in. Would suck to be stuck driving home when the sunshine turns to clouds!

[Justen]

Love your design 05xtsy, looks like the top is fairly flat so making it fit under the front hood would probably not bee too hard. Also, im a big fan of split 5 spoke wheels, cant wait to see them on this body.

[AVIONX]

Hadn't thought about it, but now that you bring it up, maybe I can work it in. Would suck to be stuck driving home when the sunshine turns to clouds!

There are a few existing cars with targas which store onboard. One of which is like the smallest car ever. Fiat X-1/9. The Pontiac Fiero stored a HUGE sunroof almost equivalent to a targa. They all put it under the front hood.

[mjpeters]

05xtsy,

Love the design, can't wait to see the other views and 3d.

Matt

[Warlock]

How about something like a newer Pantera?

[LiquidPT]

I was thinking aloud to my wife... just how big is a 95" wheel base? So, I decided to look up the specs on my sports car. 95.1". So, just for more inspiration (and I really do mean that. I don't want people to just try and rip off the design. There's some rework to be done here to make it mid engine and kit-able) cuz it's a little different from what others have put forward and it's a well balanced 4cyl turbo (though front engined, but I think a mid engine variation is doable) with a targa top (the targa would need to be similfied a lot, but could probably fit in a front trunk). I give you the Pontiac Solstice Coupe (this is #100 of 1162):










OK, I know the front end styling may not be what people are looking for. You could easily do something in the same basic shape but more Saturn Sky (modern angular) styling




Or there was the Delorean concept when they were rumored to be buying the plant and platform from GM

http://jalopnik.com/#!5375647/exclus...ntiac-solstice
Just more food for thought.

[05xtsy]

Pretty much done, a few minor touches

Im calling it the FFR Aurora

[eagle98ak]

^^I really like this^^

[05xtsy]

Thank you! more to come!

[Vman7]

Here are two sites I like going to for cars, tons to look at for getting ideas. Can look by brand, do searches like "Spyder" etc.

http://www.conceptcarz.com/
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/

[Olimk2]

Came on nicely, you should had some black piece front the side window to support mirror and make the glass smaller and able to go down. Got it's own personality witch is good!

[GUNS]

It looks good man! I'd like to see some more angles. The only things I'm not to crazy about is the squarish side vents and tail lights. Again, it's hard to tell without more angles, but I like the general shape and idea you are going with this. Well done!

[Vman7]

Here are a few sites I like to go to for checking out designs. The first two sites have tons of cars, plus info, spec.s on a lot of the cars.
http://www.conceptcarz.com/
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/
http://www.seriouswheels.com/index.html

[keys2heaven]

Pretty much done, a few minor touches

Im calling it the FFR Aurora

Looks like an Apex SF (Street Fighter) to me!

Seriously, I like the stance. Not in your face aggressive while maintaining that sporty look.

What I like:

• Headlights...from what I can see
  
  Wheels....love em
  
  The top...make it stowable

Things I need to see more detail on:

• The door vents to engine bay...are they really that big vertically?
  
  Taillights...is that a vent next to it? The rear shape reminds me of a the newer Mustangs.
  
  The front grill and hood detail...I know you are working on this.

Things that make me go hmmm:

• The door....would it be comfortable for me to put my arm there with that curve?
  
  The wing....more integrated into body?

Aurora to me, means Stealth...as in Project Aurora. And I definitely see a lot of street but would like to see you expand on the stealth.

However, you put me to shame as far as design. This forum would shut down if I posted my artwork.

[05xtsy]

Looks like an Apex SF (Street Fighter) to me!

I'm not familiar with this, maybe you can post a picture of it?

Things I need to see more detail on:

• The door vents to engine bay...are they really that big vertically?
  
  Taillights...is that a vent next to it? The rear shape reminds me of a the newer Mustangs.
  
  The front grill and hood detail...I know you are working on this.

I originally made them that tall because I wanted the vents to plant the car and as you go up, the speed of airflow molds the rest of the body. Sort of like a predator sticking it's head forward and ears folded back getting ready to attack.

Yes the taillight has a vent next to it, but its not just a gaping hole it would b plastic mold or carbon fiber or could just be bodycolor. Sort of up to the owner how much money he/she wants to spend. I wanted to lend some sort of modular aspects to it ie; vents, possibly roof and rear wing.

Is the mustang comment a negative?

I was planning on making another modular piece/vent on the hood (in the middle closest to the windshiled) very minimal but as a representation of the line of the wrx hoodscoop. But again very minimal. This piece would also serve as a hand hold for opening the hood and putting in the top.

Things that make me go hmmm:

• The door....would it be comfortable for me to put my arm there with that curve?
  
  The wing....more integrated into body?

Im not sure about the comfort level on the arm, I think it would all depend on how high the drivers shoulder was. If you hold your elbow out perpendicular to your body, this line would fallow the arc or your arm elbow to wrist.

The wing is just and add on, and lowers at low speed to be flush with the body (think, mercedes sls)

Thank you so much for the questions and interest. Feedback negative or positive is good.

[keys2heaven]

I'm not familiar with this, maybe you can post a picture of it?

Apex is just one of the names brought up for the new design. It was meant tongue-in-cheek.

Is the mustang comment a negative?

Absolutely not. Just commenting on what it reminds me of.

Im not sure about the comfort level on the arm, I think it would all depend on how high the drivers shoulder was. If you hold your elbow out perpendicular to your body, this line would fallow the arc or your arm elbow to wrist.

I ask because I'm 5' 5" and things like this have an impact.

The wing is just and add on, and lowers at low speed to be flush with the body (think, mercedes sls)

Now that you describe it, I can see this more clearly.

Thank you so much for the questions and interest. Feedback negative or positive is good.

Please don't take anything I write as negative. Just giving you my impression. I really like the stance and the design is not too over the top. An isometric view will really help me see those vent angles better. Hard to visualize (for me at least) 3-D from a side view.

[JRL]

Very very nice 05! If this is any indication of the talent tackling this project we are in great hands - your design (for what you have revealed) is stunning IMHO.

[redsharK]

2005 Ascari KZ1-R


2007 Concept Climax Roadster

[BoxerFanatic]

OK,

so, if Lancia Stratos can get replicated and updated as such:


What is a mid-engined flat 4 sports car that can be updated similarly, rather than being directly replicated.

How about Porsche 904?


Perhaps with a removeable targa top and frameless windows, instead of a fixed roof, since this project is purported to be open-topped.

Otherwise, if you prefer italian styling, to german styling... The Porsche 914-based ItalDesign Tapiro, with a targa roof, or full roadster top-less.

[BoxerFanatic]

Coventry Climax roadster gets my vote, I have liked that one since it was a rendering, but the wheelbase is a bit long for the currently established hard-points.

[LiquidPT]

Huh, I had posted a long post yesterday with some photos in it, and it said it needed to be approved but I haven't seen it show up yet. Mods, if it can't be approved for some reason, please let me know.

[redsharK]

use the icons above where you write your "Quick Reply" to insert pictures.

[BoxerFanatic]

I have one waiting, too. Hopefully they do get released by the moderators at some point.

[05xtsy]

Another one of my submissions/directions. quick 10 min sketch.

[Dave Smith]

I have seen some of the early submissions and I gotta tell you, the second biggest problem is going to be judging (we have a GREAT group of judges and will intro them shortly). The toughest thing will be not having the resouces to build more than one! The concept of using this chassis to support multiple designs was key to this competition, so thats one cool thought.

Dave

[redsharK]

2006 Alfa Diva

[redsharK]

Ferrari P4 for Inspiration


I am thinking A single external wastegate stack on the turbo instead of the dual shown here

[redsharK]

Ferrari P2


Ferrari P3

[redsharK]

2008 Subaru/Toyota concept car

[LiquidPT]

Ah, mine got released. You'll have to scroll back up to see it.

[riptide motorsport]

Always loved the Pantera.