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    Seemed to have started/cranked pretty fast. Is that the sound it will have once all will be done? Oh, no sorry, I see your turbo outlet it opened. Keep up the good work, soon on the road!
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    CONGRATS! Starting the engine is a big milestone that proves you did hundreds of things right - mechanical and electrical. Your Crew Chief is proud of you.
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    Been a while since I've been able to work on it. I thought I fixed my throw out bearing issue, but apparently I didn't. Can anyone help me with this? When I move the clutch fork towards the rear of the car, the throw out bearing engages with the flywheel. When the clutch is pushed in, it's almost as if the bearing is dislodged as you can see in the video. I can re-seat it, but it happens every time. I'm really hoping this is an easy fix, but I'm not sure what else to do at the moment without having to remove the trans and look around.


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    Looks like the bearing is not seating properly and the clutch is not putting pressure on arm. Push arm all the way up with a breaker bar and turn over, it might lock in. Let me know what happens.

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    Welp, I took a few steps back. Turns out I somehow damaged the lock ring on the pressure plate that the throw out bearing locks into. The only way to fix it is to pull the trans and replace the pressure plate. The good news out of this is that when I pulled the trans I noticed I had a leak from my passenger side axle seal, so I went ahead and fixed that. Also, removing the trans with the engine in the car isn't too bad. hopefully putting it back together won't be too hard as well. Overall it shouldn't set me back too far, still kind of frustrating though.

    On a side note, where is everyone mounting their coolant overflow tank? The manual says to mount in in the engine bay, but I see a lot of people mounting it up front on the driver's side of the radiator. I have mine in the back right now. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNS View Post
    On a side note, where is everyone mounting their coolant overflow tank? The manual says to mount in in the engine bay, but I see a lot of people mounting it up front on the driver's side of the radiator. I have mine in the back right now. Thanks.
    I have one on each end. Back and front. The stock overflow on the radiator, and I bought a unit from Summit with a sight glass for the rear degas tank. No issues with my limited running.
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    I have tanks at both ends as well... Not sure where my second tank came from, it was in my garage pile o parts
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    Hey guys, thanks for the quick replies. Are two tanks required or just desired? I believe the one that comes of the radiator was capped on my donor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNS View Post
    Hey guys, thanks for the quick replies. Are two tanks required or just desired? I believe the one that comes of the radiator was capped on my donor.
    I did 2 so I did not have to run a line from the tank above the engine back to the front of the car. I got a spare at the u-pick it junk yard for 3 bucks.

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    I see a problem with 2 tanks. What if: Each time you get the engine hot it dump water in tank #1. Then it cools and suck fluid back in out of tank #2. Repeat a couple of time and you pushing out water on the track out of tank #1 vent and sucking air back in out of empty tank#2.

    The front tank cap should be a sealed type.
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    One tank on mine mounted at the rear, flawless so far. My radiator is capped off except for the primary hoses to and from the water pump of coarse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_n_Cincy View Post
    I see a problem with 2 tanks. What if: Each time you get the engine hot it dump water in tank #1. Then it cools and suck fluid back in out of tank #2. Repeat a couple of time and you pushing out water on the track out of tank #1 vent and sucking air back in out of empty tank#2.

    The front tank cap should be a sealed type.
    Bob
    Good point Bob!
    My radiator came with a slightly higher pressure cap, but I think your thought of a sealed cap in front might be the way to go. I felt water coming out was controlled with the different caps, but going back in? A crap shoot, it seems. I guess the solution is a sealed cap at one end or plumbing both overflow lines to one bottle. Good thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_n_Cincy View Post
    I see a problem with 2 tanks. What if: Each time you get the engine hot it dump water in tank #1. Then it cools and suck fluid back in out of tank #2. Repeat a couple of time and you pushing out water on the track out of tank #1 vent and sucking air back in out of empty tank#2.

    The front tank cap should be a sealed type.
    Bob
    I have warmed up my motor a bunch of times wondering that. Both front and rear tanks have stabilized and have not moved after a bunch of cycles.
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    Good discussion. I think I'm going to run the one tank in the rear for now and see how it works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_n_Cincy View Post
    I see a problem with 2 tanks. What if: Each time you get the engine hot it dump water in tank #1. Then it cools and suck fluid back in out of tank #2. Repeat a couple of time and you pushing out water on the track out of tank #1 vent and sucking air back in out of empty tank#2.

    The front tank cap should be a sealed type.


    Bob

    You might be on to something, nick and I have discussed this also

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalmaker12 View Post
    You might be on to something, nick and I have discussed this also
    Wayne mentioned the same likelihood to me as well.

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    I was able to get my trans all back together and all in all it went relatively uneventful and now the clutch works as it should. I'm not too sure about the shifter though, it almost feels as if it's binding a bit and getting it into 5th/reverse is very difficult. Anybody have any tips on shifter adjustment?

    Also, I attempted burping the cooling system. I tried following Wayne's methods of holding up the Radiator while filling and then also tapped into the return line to the degas tank. This is my first time ever doing a coolant burp, so I'm not sure if I'm doing it correctly or not.

    At idle, the water temps sit right around 190 ish. If I rev it up a bit (2-3k, just for a few seconds) and let it idle again, the water temps begin to climb past 225. I usually shut it off at this point. Of note I only have 1 Radiator fan working at the moment. Also, the return side (passenger side) coolant lines get very hot and the driver side is still cool. I'm assuming there's still air in the system, but not sure what else to do. T

    Thanks guys.

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    If you haven't done so already, run the engine until it is warm, shut it off and let it cool completely. Next, top up the coolant reservoir. Repeat this over and over - run, cool, top-up - until warm water is circulating fully and the temp gauge stays steady without overheating. You may have to repeat this ten times or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZPete View Post
    If you haven't done so already, run the engine until it is warm, shut it off and let it cool completely. Next, top up the coolant reservoir. Repeat this over and over - run, cool, top-up - until warm water is circulating fully and the temp gauge stays steady without overheating. You may have to repeat this ten times or so.
    +1

    I did the same thing and it worked. 3 or 4 times for me.
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    Thanks guys. I've done it a few times, but maybe not enough. It does seem to be getting a bit better. Also, do you leave the cap off the coolant reservoir?

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    Cap on when running. Once cooled down remove the cap to add more coolant, cap back on, run . . . repeat.

    When I was doing this my wife said, "Geez, I know you are proud that the engine runs but do you have to start it every time you walk past it?" Yup.
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    Yup after further review, I DON'T recommend doing the cap off...makes a mess! Oh well, I'm getting there. Thanks again for all the help guys, not sure what I'd do without this community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZPete View Post
    When I was doing this my wife said, "Geez, I know you are proud that the engine runs but do you have to start it every time you walk past it?" Yup.
    Good one Pete, good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNS View Post
    Yup after further review, I DON'T recommend doing the cap off...makes a mess! Oh well, I'm getting there. Thanks again for all the help guys, not sure what I'd do without this community.
    The system is pressurized when it's warm. So if you remove the cap... psssssschhhhhtttttttttttt lolll You laugh hey, but one day I shut down the engine, forgot I did (how??), went to the coolant reservoir to add some in, removed the cap and even before I could totally remove it, it made a big pscht and a mess around. I got sprayed with hot coolant and some of the engine bay as well. That thing is like slime, it's hard to remove and sticks. Glycol, that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank818 View Post
    The system is pressurized when it's warm. So if you remove the cap... psssssschhhhhtttttttttttt lolll You laugh hey, but one day I shut down the engine, forgot I did (how??), went to the coolant reservoir to add some in, removed the cap and even before I could totally remove it, it made a big pscht and a mess around. I got sprayed with hot coolant and some of the engine bay as well. That thing is like slime, it's hard to remove and sticks. Glycol, that is.
    Ha, yea I read somewhere that leaving the cap off helps with burping...not the case. As the coolant gets hot it starts to boil and makes a mess!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNS View Post
    As the coolant gets hot it starts to boil and makes a mess!
    Right on. That's what I've always seen, though. Not that I tried on purpose!
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    Don't feel bad FFR let john Jorge drive off in the blue R and the cap was not on all the way. This is after the red one blew up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalmaker12 View Post
    Don't feel bad FFR let john Jorge drive off in the blue R and the cap was not on all the way. This is after the red one blew up.
    Talk about a bad day, hey.
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    After a few heat cycles everything seems to be working great. Water temp stays right around 190 ish at idle.

    Car fires right up and seems to be running great. I do have a code relating to fuel level sensor, so I must have wired it up wrong. Other than that, I just need to figure out my shift linkage, button up some wiring, torque the suspension and get ready to drive this thing!

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    It Moves!!! Don't mind the part in the middle where I had to stop to pick up my flip flop...


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    Congrats! That driveway is going to be hell when you get your body on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wleehendrick View Post
    Congrats! That driveway is going to be hell when you get your body on.

    P.S. like the Beemer; my wife has a Le Mans Blue 135i

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    That guy with the basketball didn't seem to care at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wleehendrick View Post
    Congrats! That driveway is going to be hell when you get your body on.
    Yea no kidding. I was surprised it didn't scrape in go-kart form. I may end up buying one of these: http://www.amazon.com/BRIDJIT-Expand...way+curb+ramps

    I'm loving my 335i. I bough it off of a friend who had to move and sold it at a great price. Definitely more entertaining to drive than my truck everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNS View Post
    It Moves!!! Don't mind the part in the middle where I had to stop to pick up my flip flop...

    You won't get up that lip with the body on, I would make a ramp for that or buy the setup you posted. Everything shifting well, you have 3.5quarts of fluid in tranny? Looks like fun!! My motors going to machine shop and getting its rehab
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    Hey Guns, nice build. not sure if I missed it but what are you using for header, exhaust routing and muffler? Sounds good. equal length or unequal?
    Thanks

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    Harley, not sure what I'm going to use as a final solution, but this is how the stock engine sounds without an exhaust. I basically just bolted up the little elbow that FFR provides to the turbo and left it like that.

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    did you lose any gas going around those corners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by longislandwrx View Post
    did you lose any gas going around those corners?
    Not that I noticed, but my Fuel Level sender isn't working. Must have wired it up wrong.

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    Been working when I can to clean everything up before I start on the body. I took it on another drive...man is this thing going to be awesome when it's dialed in. Even without an alignment it handles awesome! Steering is so light and precise. The chassis responds immediately with little to no roll!! Stock turbo w/ a stage 2 tune feels very responsive. Very similar to my MKIV Supra I had; useable low end torque and tons of acceleration when boost builds. Granted, I'm limited to driving it in my neighborhood and I'm still breaking in a new clutch and flywheel, but so far so good.

    I spent some time cleaning up the electrical harness. There is a lot of bulk, but I was able to make it all fit. I'll post pics when it's all done.

    I also replaced the passenger side valve cover gasket and hopefully that fixes my oil leak.

    In addition, I finally figured out my fuel level issue. As always, the manual does a poor job on what to splice where, hence my initial confusion. With that said here's a diagram for how to wire this up for an 02 donor.


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