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    C5 and C6 Donor Build

    Building a GTM using parts from both a C5 and a C6 donor. Using most of the C6 systems, Instrumentation, HUD, Traction Control, Cruise Control, Keyless entry, Door Poppers, etc.

    Finished a Roadster last year and have been lurking on the site for some time. I really appreciate all the great information the forums provide, finally came out of the closet over on the "dark side" and like to participate in both venues. Took some time and put together the following Web site to document my builds. Many thanks to all who have contributed to the forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGH View Post
    Building a GTM using parts from both a C5 and a C6 donor. Using most of the C6 systems, Instrumentation, HUD, Traction Control, Cruise Control, Keyless entry, Door Poppers, etc.

    Finished a Roadster last year and have been lurking on the
    car accessories site for some time. I really appreciate all the great information the forums provide, finally came out of the closet over on the "dark side" and like to participate in both venues. Took some time and put together the following Web site to document my builds. Many thanks to all who have contributed to the forums.

    Aaron

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    When will you come up with pics. Waiting for reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinden View Post
    When will you come up with pics. Waiting for reply.

    Pictures are on my web site!

    Here is the direct GTM Build Link:

    http://www.aghcars.com/pages/build-g...ctory_five_gtm

    I also have categories for my Roadster and other builds I have done.

    Aaron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinden View Post
    When will you come up with pics. Waiting for reply.
    click on his link, then click on Build Gallery, then click on GTM.

    many pics.
    GTM #253 In Process

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    Finished my aluminum tanks and posted several step by step photos on my web site.

    Also been working on several other areas of the car as well as dissecting the C6 harness. Working on a better solution to the plastic Toyota shifter, finishing modifications to the Magnasteer power rack, and preparing the extra LS7 engine for sale.

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    Laughed at myself and had to share!

    I needed to use my lift so I re-purposed my Roadster Body Buck.

    Not my finest work but it turned out remarkably sturdy although you won't find me working underneath.

    I want to keep as much donor wiring in place until I'm ready to immediately transfer to the GTM.

    Have also posted a few photos on my site of the solution I found to replace the plastic Toyota shifter.

    http://www.aghcars.com/pages/build-g...ctory_five_gtm

    Aaron

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    are you using the c6 control arms & spindles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbon fiber View Post
    are you using the c6 control arms & spindles?

    Yes, the arms and spindles on a C6 are identical in geometry to the C5 and the spindles have a thicker beefier casting.

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    thanks for the info.

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    Although the geometry of the arms is the same there is a difference with the rear lower arms that may prevent it from being used.
    The leaf spring mounting hole was eliminated on the C6 so there is no mounting boss for the lower coil over mounting bracket.
    On the C6 the ends of the spring are not attached, they just ride on the arm.
    I'm going to explore a solution for this but may choose to only swap out the spindles as they are a significantly improved casting.
    As I swap out the arms I will photograph the parts side by side for reference.

    Aaron

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    Posted some photos of the dash in place along with new aluminum fabed up and fit on the tunnel.

    Pictured dash with the custom GTM zero mileage cluster from US Speedo.

    Aaron

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    That's a very slick and edgy way to arrange your gauges. Had you seen that before or just popped into your head? Neat anyway! WEK.
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    Been back working on the GTM for quite some time but been neglecting to post! You can see my progress on my site at http://www.aghcars.com/pages/build-g...ctory_five_gtm

    Burned myself out last year trying to install Lambo doors. Those who have tried know what I'm talking about. Convinced I could make it happen I wound up spending many many hours re-making and installing brackets believing that the next setup would work. Finally came to the realization that it would only work properly with significant modifications to the fiberglass on the door and body. Further after working with these hinges from the Vertical Door company I just wasn't happy with the stability of the door. I tucked my tail in defeat, re-welded on replacement hinge pivots and proceeded with the Factory Five hinges. They are very stable and work well with the C6 door latches as I have installed.

    Lots of progress customizing and fitting all the C6 components - Door latches, Hatch latch, Magnasteer rack, etc.

    Aaron

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    Aaron,

    Glad you're back at it. If I were to could go back or if there is another build in the future, I would definitely go with a C6 donor. The tech is better and easier to work with with.

    Have you seen this? PPE Online Store
    R/s
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    Hi Arron.
    Glad to see your moving forward. The wife and I are trying to make a trip in your direction. Can't wait to see your progress.

    Progress on my second car is going slow as we'll. 108 degree days don't help with the motivation. I've got my body buck made and the body mounted to it. Just about got the body ready for primer. Then I'll start posting again.
    See you soon (I hope) :-)
    Steve
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    Hey All,

    While on a business trip last week I visited two builders.

    Met a couple cool guys and saw a couple nice cars, one nearly done and one well on its way.

    Really appreciate all the time they spent with me, could have spent days talking! Very interesting to see the different ways these cars are built and customized.

    One of the great things about building these cars is the friends you make along the way!

    In respect for there privacy I'll let them chime in if they wish.

    If anyone is traveling through Central California please let me know, it would be my pleasure to share!!

    Aaron

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    Hi Arron
    My wife are trying real hard to get over there to pick up our wine club articles. But it seems every weekend is something else. But we'll get there and I would love to see your progress.
    Steve

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    Steve,

    Your welcome anytime! So much custom work it may not appear at first glance much has been done.

    Been working on the doors for months!!

    Aaron

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGH View Post
    Hey All,

    While on a business trip last week I visited two builders.

    Met a couple cool guys and saw a couple nice cars, one nearly done and one well on its way.

    Really appreciate all the time they spent with me, could have spent days talking! Very interesting to see the different ways these cars are built and customized.

    One of the great things about building these cars is the friends you make along the way!

    In respect for there privacy I'll let them chime in if they wish.

    If anyone is traveling through Central California please let me know, it would be my pleasure to share!!

    Aaron

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    Aaron,
    It was great meeting you and talking "GTM". You're welcome back anytime.
    R/s
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    Attended SEMA last week. Awesome as usual! Combed for GTM ideas. Stopped by Ridetech and spoke to Britt Marolf who claimed to have already worked on the GTM suspension using the "ShockWave" coil over.

    Anyone familiar with this?

    Going to contact him for further info.

    After visiting Mike and Vidal I see the need for the lift. I have gotten to used to the car up on stands. When you see the car weighted on the ground you realize it may high center on a speed bump!!

    Aaron

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGH View Post
    After visiting Mike and Vidal I see the need for the lift. I have gotten to used to the car up on stands. When you see the car weighted on the ground you realize it may high center on a speed bump!!

    Aaron

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    Hi Aaron,

    It definitely will scrape the under belly and possibly crack the fiberglass at the front of the rear fenders.

    You not only need a lift system, but you should also check into buying an under-body skid system from Russ Thompson. Russ is a vendor here, and you'll see his banners pop up from time to time.

    I like Ridetech's products for Street Rods, but I'm not really sure how well they would be suited for the GTM. If you're still looking around for a solution, you should speak to Simon at RamLift Pro. The RideTech system requires that you have a good bit of room for the air tank, and control valves, which the GTM doesn't. The RamLift system is very compact and will help you get the nose up to safely clear common obstacles.

    Not trying to tell you how to spend your money, but the combination of the two will help you survive steep driveway entrances and speed bumps, and in my oppinion is MONEY WELL SPENT.

    Good luck.

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    All I know is that I'm called "The Stig".
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    Thanks Mike, no worries about suggesting how to spend my money, my wife does that all the time

    For sure I'm going to put some type of lift, just want to check out my options.

    Thanks for the RamLift contact, it's the type of info I was fishing for!

    Aaron

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    Successfully removed rear door pillar!

    Been working on the doors for the last few months and as usual way behind on posting updates. Just posted several new photos to my site showing my progress and how I successfully removed the rear door pillars, reworked the door frame and mounted the window tracks.

    Aaron

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    Love it!

    By a strange coincidence, I just finished doing exactly the same thing to Chuck Hellevang's GTM! (He got sick of nutting himself every time he walked by the open door!)

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    Hmm, noticed my link didn't copy correctly.

    Hope this works better!

    http://www.aghcars.com/pages/build-g...ctory_five_gtm

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGH View Post
    Been working on the doors for the last few months and as usual way behind on posting updates. Just posted several new photos to my site showing my progress and how I successfully removed the rear door pillars, reworked the door frame and mounted the window tracks.

    Aaron

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    http://www.aghcars.com/pages/build-g...ctory_five_gtm
    Aaron,

    Nice work. You're making it look easy.......
    R/s
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    Hey Vidal,

    As you well know it is far from easy! Very time consuming but rewarding as each small piece is completed.

    Aaron

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    Lookin good, thanks for the updates.

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    Posted a bunch more photos on my site building a door panel by forming with clay, building a mold and laying up the panel.

    Aaron
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    Be sure to open the photos to see the comentaryIMG_20140929_170549_721.jpgIMG_20141015_180231_921.jpgIMG_20141020_171112_969.jpgIMG_20150201_141923_455.jpg

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    Aaron,

    WOW!

    That is a work of art.
    R/s
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    Pretty damn slick, nice work.

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    Nice work on the molds. Very good looking end result.

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    This is looking better and better.

    I really like this build

    This will end up being the most "production car" like interior we've seen to date i reckon. This and the Stig's, another awesome build. These kinds of builds make me feel incompetent with the way i did my GTM! But i like it! So keep em' coming i say to people out there.

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    That looks great Aaron. I need to come see you soon.

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    Been working on several areas of the car at once; Hood, Hatch, Roof Vent etc. which are in various stages of completion. I get bored with one, move on to the next and then come back around.

    Completed my fiberglass interior panels and have posted details on my site. Make sure to open the photos to see the complete copy.

    Briefly, I used Gene's tape method to close up all the areas, used clay and foam to complete the shape and made patterns for the fiberglass shapes used to layup the completed panels.

    Turned out great!

    Aaron
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    Aaron,

    Just went through all of your pictures. Your panels are nice and you make it look easy. Still wish I had those door panels. Hope my quarter/window panels turn out as nice. Not looking forward to the messy glass work......
    R/s
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    Very nice indeed Aaron.

    That's what I like about the forum members here, the willingness to share information. Very cool

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