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Yeah man, it will be a challenge to get any dmv guy to pass that with you up so high and no full windshield, not sure of New hamshire's rules, so you might get lucky. In ri, mass, ct etc no way.
That's more like it! I'm curious why Adam's car seat is so high. Is this a temporary mount?
On another Chad-related note, brother why would you want the wing lower? The roll bar is already messing with the flow as is; lower looks to get into muddier air. Any semi-secret plans here?
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-j
No secret plans. The interference would be minimal. Plus it will not look like a shopping cart
Thanks- Chad
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Yikes, I'm a tall guy and if I looked that goofy in my planned 818 I'll have to rethink it. It goes from looking cool to goofy.
Example with the Lotus T125 Cool vs. Goofy because Jeremy Clarkson is tall
The seat height is about 3" higher than if it was directly mounted to the floor but being that this car is going to have different drivers a seat slider was added witch added the extra height to the seat. The owner of the car is 6'4" so if the seat was directly mounted to the floor it would also taken away from the leg room. The solution we came up for this is that we are planing on adding more frame and a taller roll bar because even with a low seat mounted to the floor the clearance would be close.
This is what we did for the wing mount. Hard to see in the pic but it ties the trunk hinges together. Still leaves the trunk area useable.
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Good Morning everyone, car is getting close! As many of you noticed the seat is very high since Adam is a tall guy. We're going to be sending the car to have the roll ball extended so that there will be more clearance. We will keep everyone updated on how this process goes.
How tall is he, cause my friend Hershey's like 6'2 and fit under my bar and my seats are 1 1/2 off frame. Also my neighbor is like 6'4 and fit under the bar. I just think cutting the bar and doing all that could be done with different seat placement. Are you guys on the frame with the seat?
We have to meet this criteria
The top of the roll bar shall not be below the top of the driver’s helmet when the driver is in normal driving position, and shall not be more than six inches behind the driver. It is strongly suggested that the roll bar extend at least three inches above the driver’s helmet. In case of two driver cars, both drivers must be within the roll bar height requirement, however only one driver must be within six inches of the roll bar.
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Good to know,thanks
But from ajw's pics it appears the seat is not fixed to the x brace and up some on mounts. My point was that with maybe a different seat, or seat mounting, cutting the frame might not have to happen. Offcoarse adam could be like a super wookie lol. Just wondering it something else has been tried.
A helmet adds 2-3". For wheel to wheel you have to be at least 2" below the top of the roll hoop, and the normally more difficult requirement, your helmet must be below a line drawn from the front hoop to the main hoop. I have yet to see a picture of any 818R that's looks to meet the second part with a 6'+ driver with a helmet.
I am bit bit worried about the "having the toolbar extended" statement. You can't extend the rollbar, if it's too short you have to replace it as the main hoop has to be one piece. And if you replace it on an R, to stay legal for wheel.to wheel, you need to redo some of the bracing as well. So getting that seat as low as possible, and raking the driving position is definitely where you want to start.
Last edited by Grintch; 04-24-2014 at 04:57 PM.
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I am 5'9 with a helmet I am 3 1/2" under the bar with a race tech helmet, and kirkey roadrace seats. My seats are 1 1/2" off the cross brace. This might be an issue for some, (portion will matter). The R roll does look higher though. The kirkeys are super thin so that's a must. I will get my friend who's like 6'2 to sit in it with his helmet at autocross this weekend.
From a quick guess I would say 6'1-6'2 might be the max before a bar extension.
Last edited by metalmaker12; 04-24-2014 at 07:16 PM.
The seat height is about 3" higher than if it was directly mounted to the floor but being that this car is going to have different drivers a seat slider was added witch added the extra height to the seat. The owner of the car is 6'4" so if the seat was directly mounted to the floor it would also taken away from the leg room. The solution we came up for this is that we are planing on adding more frame and a taller roll bar because even with a low seat mounted to the floor the clearance would be close.
The production 818R's have a taller roll bar than the prototype R. It's also taller that the S models.
Thanks- Chad
818R-SOLD!!!- Go Karted 7/20/14/ Officially raced NASA ST2- 2/28/15
2016 Elan NP01 Prototype Racecar Chassis #20
1969 Porsche 911ST Vintage Race Car
1972 Porsche 911T (#'s matching undergoing nut & bolt resto in my garage)
I have noticed that, but it looks like they didn't change the bracing. It makes me wonder if the revised version is legal, as the bracing has to be attachedd within 6" of the top of the main hoop and it looks low with the taller main hoop.