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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch Wright View Post
    Same thought as Gator, the OEM pump is still supplying pressure.
    So I had taken the AOS out when I put in the new engine, but I was not using a pressure setup, so I left the car at Tom's and he looked at the pump today and looks like the set screws on the pulley came loose and caused the pulley to slide on the shaft and throw the belt. So he pulled the plugs, drained the engine, cleaned out intake and refilled sump tank. The engine started and Tom said that it shot oil out the exhaust everywhere, so big mess he had to clean up. So that is all I know so far, not sure if there was any damage to rings or valves, etc.
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    That sucks, checking ours for sure! Did the engine hydrolock? you might have been lucky here, hope all checks out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RetroRacing View Post
    That sucks, checking ours for sure! Did the engine hydrolock? you might have been lucky here, hope all checks out!
    I think it shut down from the oil (everywhere in the engine) and not sure it hydrolocked or not as the oil did not pour out of cylinders and the engine was cut as soon as the turbo billowed out a solid white cloud that everyone could see
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    That would be a good thing, the rear wheels would have locked up under hydrolock, which is what bends things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RetroRacing View Post
    That would be a good thing, the rear wheels would have locked up under hydrolock, which is what bends things.
    Happened coming out of the chicane so was just about to get on boost.
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    everything is fine, drain the oil pulled the plugs turn over the motor.... ton of oil on the floor,
    clean intake and as much as I could, fired it up old Smokey running pretty good,

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    That's great news, suspected as much knowing it didn't lock up.

    Now, everything is fully lubed.

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    Great News! My new shortblock should be ready to go by the Fall Enduro, see ya'll at PIR!
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    we aren't running the Enduro this year tony is

    out of town and I think we need more testing and set up before a race like this. if you need help at the track give me a call gator

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    Very happy to hear the engine is in good shape!!!

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    Cool!! We will know after testing at the ridge if we are running the 818 for the enduro or if we have to build a plan B. Since we sponsored it, we have to run it.....

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    retro, do you run a front sway bar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tryon View Post
    retro, do you run a front sway bar?
    Sway bars are for wimps !
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    No sway bar in front, we already had a push problem so a bar would make it even worse. Just took it out at the ridge again on Friday and it handled like a champ....until the rear seal let go again!

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    Interesting I have been trying to get to the point of just a slight amount of high speed entry understeer to tune around.

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    Then I would stiffen the rear springs by 50lbs to get it to rotate, you will be faster and can lower the rear ride height a touch if you want.

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    I have the luxury of being able to get on track and play with chassis, engine and aero on the car pretty regularly. Which has allow me to try a lot of different things and have found the car sensitive to changes in both butt feel and stop watch.

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    Tony are you going to get your 818R out to the track this summer? We're hoping to see you and Tom at PIR this weekend!
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    Ya, where you been brother?

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    Tony you out there???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch Wright View Post
    Tony you out there???
    Yes, been mainly racing the Cobra, Tom has been trying to run the 818 but we are having over heating issues, but the few laps we get in a QUICK, it is a very fast car
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    Welcome back, Overheating shoot, hope you can sort it out and have some fun. I use a Airlift to burp the air from my system. https://www.tooltopia.com/uview-5500...ntid=UV+550000

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    OK, I have had it with the 818R, the Subaru setup is not for road racing. we have gone through 3 engines now, time to look at a Ford Eco Boost 2.3L engine and see how this will fit. So this will be an off season project and hopefully get the 818R on the track in 2020 finally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFRSpec72 View Post
    OK, I have had it with the 818R, the Subaru setup is not for road racing. we have gone through 3 engines now, time to look at a Ford Eco Boost 2.3L engine and see how this will fit. So this will be an off season project and hopefully get the 818R on the track in 2020 finally.
    Tony, What killed the 3 engines?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_n_Cincy View Post
    Tony, What killed the 3 engines?
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    Always oil issues, after the first went to dry sump and 2 engines went with dry sump
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFRSpec72 View Post
    Always oil issues, after the first went to dry sump and 2 engines went with dry sump
    Which dry sump system did you use? Do you think it foamed the oil like Chad's car originally did?

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    Sorry to hear about the engine issues. Suggestion, verify the tune to make sure you don't have a lean or detonation issue. Having 2.5 seasons and a lot of track miles on race tires seeing 1.6 to 1.7 G on a wet sump stock engine at 18psi of boost with out issue. Personally I would look for some other underlying issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch Wright View Post
    Sorry to hear about the engine issues. Suggestion, verify the tune to make sure you don't have a lean or detonation issue. Having 2.5 seasons and a lot of track miles on race tires seeing 1.6 to 1.7 G on a wet sump stock engine at 18psi of boost with out issue. Personally I would look for some other underlying issue.
    No issues as these are stock engines with just a drysump and new turbo, no engine mods
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFRSpec72 View Post
    OK, I have had it with the 818R, the Subaru setup is not for road racing. we have gone through 3 engines now, time to look at a Ford Eco Boost 2.3L engine and see how this will fit. So this will be an off season project and hopefully get the 818R on the track in 2020 finally.
    Having looked closely at pictures, but not having the opportunity to pull a tape measure out on one, it looks to me like a guy could swap a Honda K series with trans into one of these with only a little frame mods... a TSX K24 is a hell of a lot better motor than the Ford, 260-280whp all motor is pretty standard lately, with boost they easily clear 400 with stock internals...

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    Car is now for sale, minus running engine, see the for sale adds, highy motivated to sell and priced as such.
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    Well I would have interest but afraid my wife would have another opinion on adding another project. anyway email me the info [email protected]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch Wright View Post
    Well I would have interest but afraid my wife would have another opinion on adding another project. anyway email me the info [email protected]
    Fully understand ! Here is the pointer to the add https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...-818R-For-Sale with all the info , link to pictures and price
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFRSpec72 View Post
    Car is now for sale, minus running engine, see the for sale adds, highy motivated to sell and priced as such.
    Tony, sorry to see your 818R up for sale. I know how much time and money you must have put into this car.
    Do you mind sharing your plans moving forward?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob_n_Cincy View Post
    Tony, sorry to see your 818R up for sale. I know how much time and money you must have put into this car.
    Do you mind sharing your plans moving forward?
    Bob
    I will continue racing the FFR Challenge car and battling with Karen and others on the west coast. I will might be moving to a world challenge/Grand AM car.
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    Wow, that is not the ending I was expecting !!
    Just spent hours reading every post start to finish, taking notes on your inspiring build.
    So sorry it did not work out for you.
    Appears many are having engine issues.

    I am going with the Mitch Wright proven wet sump system and have ordered the Arctangent oil control plate this weekend. Already have the killer B pan and pickup, IAG AOS and will monitor the forums for solutions on durability of EJ25

    I really enjoyed reading about your build.

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