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    Exclamation IMPORTANT : Registration and New Member Functionality PLEASE READ

    Hello, If you are trying to register for this site or have recently done so, this is some important information you need to know about two topics: Registration, and New Member Permissions.

    Re: Registering for the forum...
    All new registrations are moderated before you can post your first post. This may add a delay between registering and being able to post.
    The registration process includes Biography as a required field which has to be filled with something relating to why you are on this site.

    The registration form states:
    Fill in a few details about yourself, and specifically, why you are signing up for this forum. This field is required, and is used to help verify you are not a spammer. Don't put gibberish or generic answers in this field, as it will be viewed by the membership moderator after signup. If the moderator can't tie this answer to why you have signed up for this site, your membership request will be denied, and you will have to re-register!

    Let me reiterate: If you register for the site and don't put something related to this site in the Bio field your registration will be rejected. Small, generic answers like "New to site", "Car Lover", "Mechanic" will get you rejected. If you get a rejection email or no response from the site within 48 hrs after trying to register then click this Contact Us link to get in touch and we'll get you registered.


    Re: New Member Permissions... (Supporting Vendors and current PRIVATE PARTY - ie: non-commercial entity - FFR owners are exempt from these restrictions. If you are new and currently own a Factory Five, send me a PM and I'll update your status.)

    For everyone else who is new to the forum, Welcome! I'm sorry for the restrictions that follow, but since they were put in place we have had virtually NO ongoing spam problems. If you want to request an exemption to the following, send me a PM. Exemption requests are discussed in the thread so feel free to peruse the entire thread and as always, comments are encouraged and welcome. /EDIT

    For new members with less than 20 posts these restrictions are as follows:

    • You do not have access to your blog.
    • You cannot post a new thread in the FOR SALE classifieds. You can still create a new thread in the WANTED portion of the classifieds. Posting a FOR SALE thread in a WANTED classified forum will be treated as a direct attempt to circumvent the rules and you WILL be penalized, up to and including a temporary or permanent ban.
    • You can't create a picture album.
    • You can't create a group of post new threads to a group. You can still post to existing group threads.
    • You cannot update your profile or have a signature.
    • You cannot have a custom title
    • Calendar access is restricted (Thanks for the catch kwb160!)


    After you reach 20 posts, your account will be transitioned to another group that has these restrictions removed. This can take up to an hour after you reach 20 posts. We had to take this measure to better fight the ongoing problem of spam.

    EDIT: Please note, posting items for sale should always be limited to the classifieds, and continued posting of for sale items in the classifieds - beyond extra parts floating around in your garage for example - may result in you being flagged as a commercial vendor. All commercial vendor postings are confined to supporting vendors. If you are interested in becoming a supporting vendor on our site please see this page for more information:
    http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/conte...rs-Information

    As always, comments are welcome.

    Last edited by David Hodgkins; 10-11-2016 at 01:21 PM. Reason: Clarity for first time readers

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    Hi David,

    Thank you for being on the front line and defending our virtual world!

    WEK.
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    +1!
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    Very good ideas David!
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    Sorry that this has become necessary, but happy that you are taking care of it and us!

    Thanks David!

    Regards,

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    Thanks guys.

    We got hit again last night but they were easier to see and take care of, plus rules already in place made it so no one saw the spam at all.


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    thanks dave you are awsome
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    Taking care of the spammers is difficult at best. Adding another level of "human interaction" when signing up for a new account helps. I've also used "spam o matic" plug ins which work fantastic......Not sure if it available with this software platform or not, but worth looking in to.


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    Hi Bill,

    Yes we do use tools like you mentioned. It alone has rejected over 600,000 memberships! It went away for a while (mostly) but now it's every night.


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    Just banned a new member for 2 days for posting that he has a MKIII for sale in a WANTED thread.

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    I'm just a reader most of the time since I don't have an FF car but I still love the builds and the tech that goes into them. As for the website, I'm part of many forums, both computer, CAD and of course cars and I applaud the admins here for setting rules that I rarely see enforced on other forums. It's good to see that the content is top-notch as well as the members. It makes a treat to read this forum. Keep it up!!!

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    Good proactive policies Dave. Thanks for all of your efforts.

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    Thanks Jeff and Pike. I appreciate it. We're still getting hit daily, but the good news is we completely shut down one way they were posting and forced them into doing it in a way that is easy for me to take care of.

    I do want to mention that I'm being VERY aggressive with paring down suspected new spammers so if you are a new member and you get banned by mistake just use the contact us form and we'll straighten it out.


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    Hi... my MK4 has a required date of 12/14 so hopefully the call from Stewart Trans. isnt too far away... I'm sure it will be a while before i find i have a need to post any picture albums but look forward to when I can.

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    Thanks for the info. Is this also why I can't edit my profile? I also tried to post in the 818->Registration section but I didn't see my post come through.

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    Skelly, the links in your post made the software route it to moderation. You should be able to see it now.

    HTH,


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    thanks for the help and looking out for us

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77233349975 View Post
    thanks for the help and looking out for us
    You're welcome!


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    Bringing this back to the top to remind all NEW registered users that we are being VERY AGGRESSIVE in banning new accounts that look like spam to us. If you sign up with user names or email addresses that appear to be gibberish there is a strong chance you will be banned. If this happens to you and you want it reversed, PLEASE send us a note via the contact us form and we'll take care of it.


    FFR 5369 Pin Drive, IRS, Trigos, Torsen, Wilwoods, FMS BOSS 302 "B" cam , Mass-flo. CA SB100 (SPCN) Registered
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    Thanks for the quick answer. And I agree with doing all you can to keep the crap out of here.
    Thanks, Joe

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    Another bump for an ongoing issue. I've banned a couple of legitimate new users and reversed their ban after they used the "contact us" form to let me know.

    I'm very sorry some new folks are getting caught up in this. I will continue to look for better tools but just know that the issue hasn't gone away and we continue the good fight.

    The good news is that the users on the site aren't seeing any spam!


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    Thanks now I see why I could not adjust my profile. Good to know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Hodgkins View Post
    Thanks guys.

    We got hit again last night but they were easier to see and take care of, plus rules already in place made it so no one saw the spam at all.

    David:
    I'll take this opportunity to say again that we had spammer problems "up the kazoo" over at Xtremesystems until we took the simple step of
    putting into place a $1.00 fee to join paid through paypal.
    Spammers will simply not do this because of two reasons: 1) They are too cheap to pay the buck and 2) if they do, they can be traced as they need a legit bank account for a paypal account.
    When I tell you that solved the problem I'm not kidding you.
    Litterally stopped them dead in their tracks.
    I think we're had two in the past year where we would before have 50 a day!
    Merry Christmas to you and yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    David:
    I'll take this opportunity to say again that we had spammer problems "up the kazoo" over at Xtremesystems until we took the simple step of
    putting into place a $1.00 fee to join paid through paypal.
    Spammers will simply not do this because of two reasons: 1) They are too cheap to pay the buck and 2) if they do, they can be traced as they need a legit bank account for a paypal account.
    When I tell you that solved the problem I'm not kidding you.
    Litterally stopped them dead in their tracks.
    I think we're had two in the past year where we would before have 50 a day!
    Merry Christmas to you and yours.
    That's an interesting approach, and I know you've mentioned it before.

    I'll discuss it with Dave. It's a question I'd like to see the new guys answer: Would a $1 registration fee affect whether you have signed up for the site?


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    Quote Originally Posted by David Hodgkins View Post
    That's an interesting approach, and I know you've mentioned it before.

    I'll discuss it with Dave. It's a question I'd like to see the new guys answer: Would a $1 registration fee affect whether you have signed up for the site?

    Thanks David
    It does work and tell him I said "It's a buck and if it was me I'd take the money received and send it to CF research"

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    I really like the donation idea suggested by Movieman.

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    I'm in, even $5 would be worth it to have a clean forum. Either donate it to a cause or give it back on the next purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68GT500MAN View Post
    I really like the donation idea suggested by Movieman.
    Thanks..
    Follow up : I said we had two after we instituted this policy and one of them was a very determined little bugger.
    BUT he made a big mistake: He pissed me off and that takes a lot to do.
    I tracked him down and went to the FEDS with all his info, screenshots,IP's, logs from the forum software and they grabbed him and that SOB is now
    enjoying a nice vacation in a federal facility.Seems that when they grabbed his PC's they also found that he was involved in kidde porn and my understanding from the FBI guy I dealt with
    is ( his words) "Your 24 year old daughter will be collecting social security before this guy gets out."
    Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus!

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    I understand the need for this. Hope I can contribute to the site.

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    many thanks keep the good work!

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    David, Thanks for keeping this place a great source of information, ideas and inspiration! Maybe there could be a way to have peple verified by paypal or some other service. I was doing a quick search and found these guys... http://www.telesign.com/. Maybe, there is a solution from them that would make it easier to be sure spammers don't make it through. At my work we also moved to two-factor authentication(I get a text on my phone or use the google authenticator) which is a bit overkill, but more secure. Hope that helps. Best, Thomas

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Hodgkins View Post
    That's an interesting approach, and I know you've mentioned it before.

    I'll discuss it with Dave. It's a question I'd like to see the new guys answer: Would a $1 registration fee affect whether you have signed up for the site?

    I, for one, would have no problem paying a buck to join. The info available here is priceless. If it helps the forum with spamming, its a bargain!

    Bill

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    Sounds good

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    David I am a new member and I am interested in events to meet owners as I educate myself on Factory Five. I was hoping to utilize the Calendar to look for local events but I don't have access. I didn't see the Calendar as being restricted in your restrictions for new member posts so I wanted to see if the Calendar restriction was by design. Thanks...kwb160

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    kwb160,

    Calendar access IS restricted, sorry. If it helps any, the calendar isn't really being utilized. Also, FFR does have an event calendar, have you seen it?:
    http://www.factoryfive.com/news-events/2013-schedule/

    It's for 2013 (I've made a note and am contacting them to update) but if you do a google search for the events you can find out this year's dates.

    Also, you can post to your local region's forum and ask what events are coming up.

    HTH,


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    Trying to get back up and running for a new build in progress. Site looks great and i appreciate your efforts. Have been away for a while to allow more drive time on FFR 2107. $1/$5 fee sounds great if it will make it easier on your end.

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    NEW REQUIREMENT PLEASE NOTE:

    Sorry guys, I'm reviewing all registrations anyway and am still deleting spam posts every day (folks on the forum never see them, but the mods do). Hopefully stepping in between registration and first post will kill the majority of that spam so I've added the following:

    The registration process now includes Biography as a required field which has to be filled with something literate. In addition, all new members are now moderated before they can post their first post. This may add a delay between registering and being able to post.

    I've added the new requirement to the first post in this thread.

    Thanks for your continued understanding and support of our efforts!


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    Delivered 4/23/06. "Finished" 4/2012 (still not done!)


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    You mean it wouldn't be possible to add the following:
    "All spammers will be tracked down and skinned, denutted and then hung!"
    Just sayin...

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    David do I need to update anything as per this new post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallace18 View Post
    David do I need to update anything as per this new post?
    No, you shouldn't need to. I set the field to required during registration and when you update your profile. Current users are not required to fill it in before posting again. That option would be way too disruptive IMO.


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