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    Getting closer...



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    For the AEM CD-7 install, what kind of wiring harness changes are needed?
    Is it compatible with the iWire harness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DND View Post
    For the AEM CD-7 install, what kind of wiring harness changes are needed?
    Is it compatible with the iWire harness?
    The CD-7 is strictly a Can-bus unit, no analog inputs. I’m not sure if it would be possible with a oem ecu, but it’s being used with most aftermarket ecu’s. It’s quite possible that’s there’s a work around to input analog channels to another device that then uses canbus to connect to the CD-7, or use a more modern Subaru ecu that has canbus, but that’s all way over my head. I’m using an AEM Infinity ecu and the universal harness had canbus plugs already wired in, so for me it was plug n play.
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    This is just awesome (again) Adam! Getting even more closer, now, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank818 View Post
    This is just awesome (again) Adam! Getting even more closer, now, right?
    You have no idea just how close I am Frank! Iíll post some pics soon from my computer, having trouble posting from my phone these days.
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    That front tow hook is pretty sweet. I think I'm going to copy it.
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    Rear end cutouts look nice! Curious to see how they end up with all the trim mesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EODTech87 View Post
    That front tow hook is pretty sweet. I think I'm going to copy it.
    It also hides the washer fluid nozzle.

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    Looking good Adam. Hopefully the engine is in good shape. The like the idea of the no pins on the hatch.
    Just got mine back from wiring. Got to finally turn it on and hear it!!! Got a little exhaust leak from the turbo v band but thats an easy fix.

    Keep the videos coming!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by 818sNH View Post
    Looking good Adam. Hopefully the engine is in good shape. The like the idea of the no pins on the hatch.
    Just got mine back from wiring. Got to finally turn it on and hear it!!! Got a little exhaust leak from the turbo v band but thats an easy fix.

    Keep the videos coming!!!!


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    Video doesn’t work. Congrats on the first start! Can’t wait to see more! What did you do for wiring and ecu?
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    Video should work now. Im running a fueltech Ft400 ecu and wiring was done by Tuly inc. out in Philly.
    In the video you can see turbo v-band exhaust leak Got it taken cared off. Trying to get first ride around block today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 818sNH View Post
    Video should work now. Im running a fueltech Ft400 ecu and wiring was done by Tuly inc. out in Philly.
    In the video you can see turbo v-band exhaust leak Got it taken cared off. Trying to get first ride around block today.
    Nice! Video works now! Sorry if you’ve already told me this, but what turbo is that? It looks bigger than mine, lol. Also, anything don’t with the 5mt to handle it?
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    The motor has an agressive street port and Im running a gt42r. Transmission is a stock 5mt. Ready to get blown up . Im looking into PPG gears or figure out an Sti 6speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 818sNH View Post
    The motor has an agressive street port and Im running a gt42r. Transmission is a stock 5mt. Ready to get blown up . Im looking into PPG gears or figure out an Sti 6speed.
    That’s a lot of turbo! I’m going to go ahead and assume you have E85 readily available. I wish I did.
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    No e85 I wish. We are trying to hit 400-450 on pump gas and low boost 10-12lbs. After I figure out what im going to do with the transmission, then we can turn her up with some good fuel. I will be limited by my injectors and pumps though. Thinking we can hit 600hp.
    Here a video of our crew taking the win at IFO 2018 in Lebanon NY.
    We were having a couple of issues with the car shutting off during burnout, also come to find out Turbo was completely trashed. Still ran PB of 7.50

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    Wow that’s quick! It’s a good thing that rotaries make less torque than piston engines, at 400hp I’d expect you to be around 3-350ft/lbs which will help with keeping trannies. My initial goal is 350 on low boost. I’m hopeful that my RA 5mt will hold up, but with 305 stickies my axles will probably break before the tires spin.
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    Ok am I in the right thread now... I soiled Andrew's thread and felt really bad about it.

    Is this Adam's Canadian rotary "weed-legal" (you got a vid with a lot of smoke) engine's thread? If yes, then:



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    That’s a neat video Frank, thanks for sharing. Merry Christmas!

    No updates for awhile, the car is ready to drive/troubleshoot/tune but unfortunately I only had a few days off since filming the last video and didn’t get a chance to work on it. I did pick up some ID1050x and ID2000 injectors along with some Full Function Engineering fuel rails. Still need to decide on a surge tank, FPR, and in-line filter. Also want to mount the wing before spring. I’m going to focus on my other car/bike projects over the winter and really get back into the 818 when the weather warms up in the spring.
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    ID1050x! Yeah, nice I got those last year too, I mean 1 year ago. Of course still need to try them but apparently they kick behinds!
    You got what, 1 injector per rotor?
    Why would you use ID2000s? On top of the ID1050x as a double-injector setup?


    Speaking of rotary, no time to waste, man, you have to upgrade for the latest rotary technology (2006 )!




    Bikes projects? What bikes, what bikes?


    Happy New Rotary Year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank818 View Post
    ID1050x! Yeah, nice I got those last year too, I mean 1 year ago. Of course still need to try them but apparently they kick behinds!
    You got what, 1 injector per rotor?
    Why would you use ID2000s? On top of the ID1050x as a double-injector setup?


    Speaking of rotary, no time to waste, man, you have to upgrade for the latest rotary technology (2006 )!


    Bikes projects? What bikes, what bikes?


    Happy New Rotary Year!
    Each rotor has 2 injectors, a primary(id1050x) and a secondary(id2000). The secondary comes on once the primary hits a preset duty cycle. So each rotor will have 3050cc of fuel.

    No hydrogen here, but I may add methanol or switch to ethanol at some point.

    I have a 78 Honda cb750 that I started chopping before I got the 818 that I want to finish. It’s been welded to my bench for about 5 years and is probably in a lot of pictures and videos. I also have 02 road star warrior 1700 that needs some maintenance and a 93 gsxr with a blown motor that I’d like to convert to electric. Suffice it to say I have a few projects.

    Happy New Year my friend!
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    3050cc, that is awesome, no wonder the rotary uses a lot of fuel! loll

    How 'bout a Skyactiv-X-Rotary?




    With all those great projects I guess you are retired from "normal" work, cuz ain't got time for that!
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    He’s got some interesting theories, and no doubt he’d be right about some of that if Mazda cane out with another rotary powered car. I don’t see that happening, but who knows, maybe a limited production one day. The last time they redesigned it for fuel efficiency and emissions it didn’t work out so well. I’m not worried about either though.

    I always have lots of projects on the go, I just love tinkering in the garage. When I’m busy at work I buy lots of parts, and when it’s slow I install them. Nature of the oil and gas industry, it’s go go go or full stop usually.
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    It’s springtime!!! Finally back at the car, got idle tuned pretty good, cooling system working properly, all ready to take it for a little drive and I can’t find reverse. I think I might only have 1st and 2nd or maybe it’s 3rd and 4th. Either way my shift rod doesn’t seem to want to turn, but goes in and out smoothly. Can anyone tell me how much it’s supposed to twist?
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    Seems I have 1-4 but no 5-R. I believe it’s the Reverse Check Sleeve as without the t-case housing on I can engage both 5th and reverse.

    Oh and for those that remember my last compression test being bleak, and improving a little after soaking in oil, it’s gotten even better now that it’s been through a few heat cycles. Front 106/94/100psi and rear 96/101/91psi. I am premixing a little heavy to aid in freeing everything up. Also checked my coolant for exhaust gasses and there were no signs, so o-rings seem ok so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian818 View Post
    It’s springtime!!! Finally back at the car
    Right on time for elections!

    Now I hope you will get this running before I do mine, you deserve a finished product!
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    So I did manage to repair my Reverse Check Sleeve and found both 5th and Reverse. Took the car for a few spins and my small axle seal leak became a big one. Both seals are new and 99% sure on properly and the right sides. However I did notice that the axles were free to move in and out of the transmission and didnít snap in place. I pulled the axle to see if the cir clip was still on and it was.

    Now for those not following along with my never ending build, last year I swapped my Ď07 Impreza transmission for a 99 STI 5mt. I thought it was odd that a 99 5mt would have male axles and female transmission input like the Ď07ís but the axles Iíd assembled previously fit right in. The transmission luckily did come with front axles but I didnít give them much of a look. Fortunately Iím a pack rat and put them in the garage attic.

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    Well now I know why my seals were leaking and the axles didnít lock in place. The male stub that sticks out in pre Ď04 transmissions was still on the axles that came with the transmission making the transmission appear to be female. I disassembled both axles to see if I could just swap CVís but the splines donít match up on the two different cvís.

    So my question is this. Are the axles FFR sells two different lengths or different splines? I know aftermarket axles can be different splines so could these axles work if I found female CVís that used the same splines? Or is my only option to get some axles from FFR?
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    I had my hands on two different FFR axle types. No clue if this will help you but see this post about them. (Granted I think you are asking about the axle stubs at the transmission, not the long axles...)

    https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...507#post252507
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    Quote Originally Posted by aquillen View Post
    I had my hands on two different FFR axle types. No clue if this will help you but see this post about them. (Granted I think you are asking about the axle stubs at the transmission, not the long axles...)

    https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...507#post252507
    Thanks Art, that definitely helps but also makes me nervous as I need 22 spline on the inside. I’ll update after I talk to FFR tomorrow morning.
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    I'm guessing you wanted the 99 sti 5mt for the RA gears? Would those swap into a newer case (like 02-03)? That might be a cheaper option if custom axles need to be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STiPWRD View Post
    I'm guessing you wanted the 99 sti 5mt for the RA gears? Would those swap into a newer case (like 02-03)? That might be a cheaper option if custom axles need to be made.
    Mostly it was the factory limited slip that I wanted, the RA gears were a bonus. I got the transmission for cheaper than a limited slip so I thought it was a no brainer, but it’s been one headache after another.

    Just talked to FFR and they just have the 2 different sizes, the ones in Art’s link above. The transmissions all have the same spline (25 I believe) so it’s just my inner CV’s that are the problem as they’re 22 spline. I’m going to try and source some ‘02 wrx axles and I expect they’ll work. Assuming they’re oem and not aftermarket.
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    Well I picked up a rebuilt ‘02 wrx front axle from Napa today after FFR confirmed that they only have the 29-29spline and 29-21 spine axles and they’re all the same length. I figured if the NAPA one had 29 or 21 spline then I could make it work. Well luckily enough it was 29 spline and worked on the axles I have! Already have one side back together. Unfortunately yesterday when I’d given up all hope I push the 818 against the wall and brought my rx8 in the garage for some much needed maintenance and upgrades and now I can’t access the other side of the 818, lol. First world problems...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian818 View Post
    I push the 818 against the wall and brought my rx8 in the garage for some much needed maintenance and upgrades and now I can’t access the other side of the 818, lol. First world problems...
    Lol! That's dumb! But necessary, I understand...

    What "upgrades"?
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    Way too long without an update, Mr Zonda.

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    Were you able to track down another axle that worked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian818 View Post
    Been making progress, slow and steady. I decided since I didn't widen the rear bumper I should try to make my life as difficult as possible and try to use different taillights. Someone put FRS taillights on a GTM flipped upside down and switched sides. I liked the look, and thought it would suit the 818 body lines even better. Eventually I'll buy some smoked LED lights, but I picked up these oem ones for $100 locally for now.

    To aid in locating them and minimize the effort in cutting out the bumper I made a mold of the light.



    Then painted it black and taped it on.



    And here's some sketches I did planning the bumper cutouts. The top one is what I'm leaning towards, however I'm going to change up the slots a bit.



    Any feedback on the cutouts would be helpful, with so many options it's hard to decide what looks best.
    Did you decide on a look for the rear? I really like the brz frs idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank818 View Post
    Lol! That's dumb! But necessary, I understand...

    What "upgrades"?
    The RX8 was bought to try my hand at drifting and be a backup track car in case I’d booked a track day and the weather turned out to be poor. So I installed some stiffer diff bushings, welded the diff, coilovers all around and a header back exhaust. Also picked up some new wheels and sticky tires. This all took much longer than I’d expected! Finally got the car out of the garage late July and got an alignment. Car is fun, but unfortunately I wasn’t able to make it to any drift practices due to work.

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    Way too long without an update, Mr Zonda.
    Sorry Frank, it has been way too long!

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    Were you able to track down another axle that worked?
    Once I got the RX8 out of the garage I went back to Napa and got another one, installed it and dumped in about 3 litres of oil before realizing it was just pouring out the bottom just as fast. When I’d swapped transmissions I took the new seals I’d put in the ‘’07 trans out and put them into the ‘99 one, which is why it only leaked a little when I had the ‘07 axles installed. So I had to take everything apart again, get the proper seals and put it all back together. Fortunately this time it all went well.

    So after I got my axles/seals sorted, I drove it up and down my street a bunch playing with the ecu to get the tune close enough for a drive to inspection. Since then I’ve been extremely busy with work, combined with planning and going on a trip to Europe, where I got to see 2 F1 races, there just hasn’t been time.

    Anyone F1 fans know where these are?
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    However I finally had an opportunity on Monday to go for my inspection, and I failed. Not terribly though, but I’m working on getting the fails addressed in the next few days and going back for re-inspection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CerealSavage View Post
    Did you decide on a look for the rear? I really like the brz frs idea!
    I didn’t. I still don’t like the rear, but decided the FRS lights just weren’t going to work nicely with the FFR bumper. Plan is to eventually completely redo the rear bumper and do an elaborate rear diffuser, at which point I’ll consider the FRS lights or something completely different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZPete View Post
    Spa-francorchamps, at Eau Rouge
    Monza, at Variante del Pettifilo ( I was there, at Curva Parabolica. Did you see me? I was wearing a red shirt.)
    Nailed it! And I probably did see you, I was also the guy in red, lol.
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