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He liked my 33. He is looking for a rail dragster for his daughter
Hey Bill,
That green is looking better to me each time you post a new photo. Can you share a paint code or other info on the finish?
Thanks, Keith HR #894
I posted this in the body section. I want to keep it with the build thread. Been doing major relook at my hinge and hood, hood panels, and mounting hardware. Had a terrible time getting the instructions in the Gen I Manual to work, mainly cause I did not understand thm. Hood was incosnistent, hard to align, opemn, and close. Found an article by Dan Ruth on the old manual instructions had the lower mgas shock mount too high. So I dropped mine an inch on each side and the improvement was dramatic. Hood stays on the shelf when you pop the latch, it closes to the shelf and not the engine compartment. It is also more stable in the wind, farting, breezes, thunderstorms, hail storms etc. It does cause the hood to not open as far. If you need to spend a lot of time *** up in the engine compartment you might consider the requirements as you think through it. Attachment 134787 While conducting this advanced study in quantum mechanics I also discovered my own Higgs Bosun with a close comparison of diagrams, photos, and manuals over the years. The damned hardware was not assembled correctly. The scientist, apparently with depth perception problems, misread the diagram, which honestly can be read to say anything you want, sort of like COVID Statistics. So I pulled the hinge hardware and reconstructed it within the constraines of the dark matter and dark energy controlling the universe. Attachment 134788 Attachment 134789 When I put the initial panels on the car I used button head hex bolts. Heck that was the thing. I noticed a terrible amount of damage to my underhood paint. We had alwas had a problem with the resting points of the hood against the car. We ground down the heads of the bolts, all to no avail. I decided to go to countersunk hex headed bolts. Still worried about structural integrity on the hood panels but I like the results. Attachment 134790Attachment 134791Attachment 134792 Final issue was the access plates on the firewall ledge. The button head bolts had been a long problem. I Countersunk the holes and put in hex headed bolts that sat flush. While we were at it the wife suggested we put foam padding on the hood over the access plates. This covered a lot of the damage and makes for a more solid feeling opening and closing, at least you don't hear glass grinding against itself. Getting due for some touch up anyhow. Thinking when I paint the new Louvered panels I can address the issues. Funny thing, with the EFI, I don't think the louvers were all that necessary, other than looking cool. Attachment 134793Attachment 134794Attachment 134795
Run through the gears with the Sniper handheld video taped.
We worked some on fitment of the side panels this afternoon. Got the driver's side almost done, a few tweaks still needed. I really do enjoy watching this progress.
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So stage I of the Louvers is finished. Got them fabricated and fitted on the car, next step is to 121 Rod & Restoration to see about getting them painted.
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Looks great Bill.
33 Hot Rod (Gen 1) Stage 1 delivered on 4/27/2017, Stage 2 delivered on 9/21/2018
LS3 495hp/480 lb. ft., 4L70E, Electric PS, Classic Auto Air, Lokar electronic sport shifter, 13 inch Wilwood front and 11.68 Cobra rear brakes, Ford 8.8 w 3.73 w 4 link, Billet Specialty Legend Series MAG wheels and Mickey Thompson
Sportsman S/R 26x8x18 front and 29x18x20 rear tires.
Thanks. Took her up to set up getting some paint for the panels today. Made a video on the backroads. It was really hard to get that fly to stand still while I glued his feet to the windshield.
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Some photographs from Drones Point of View (Dennis Cruz) at a recent car show.
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You are doing 50mph when that picture was taken?? Without a driver...
Impressive!!
On the other hand, it is a low mileage vehicle
Love the Dash Panel!!
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Black & Copper #1028 ("The Mistress" according to my wife! )
Brought home: Nov. 2017, GoKart: May 2018, will be Plated & on the Road April 2020
Andreas
So we went out and did a photo shoot with the Hot Rod. We were in Anna Texas. Dennis Cruz of Drone's Point of View did the photo shoot. Lots of Drone Footage and some really good still shots as well. Enjoy
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Here are some shots from another set
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Bill, where did you get your wiper from? The arm and blade that came with mine is too long.
Nice pics too.
Last edited by JimLev; 10-11-2020 at 10:36 PM.
'33 Hotrod, #1047 Gen 1, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
LS3 w/Gearstar Level 3 4L65e Tranny, Yank converter, Lokar shifter, Electric PS, Vintage AC/Heat/Def, 8.8" 3.55
TorqThrust II Wheels w/Toyo Proxy T1 Sport Tires, F 235/45ZR17 R 295/35ZR18
Garage Built, Driveway Painted.
Thanks, my unit was traded from another guy. He had gotten it from Speedway. We had to trim the arm and the blade to fit. I had originally purchased a quick disconnect from Sachse Rod Shop locally. That one was made to mount and dismount as needed. The guy at the shop had a 27 T and needed the removable unit in lieu of the fixed position unit.
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Quick...otor,5513.html
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Unive...-Kit,2999.html
More shots from the photo session.
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Here is an interesting view inside the engine bay with the hood closed.
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Been fiddling with the Hood a lot. Since the engine rebuild it hasn't fit exactly right. Further. we will soon be finishing the engine panels soon so I have been working to get it correct. Used the GoPro under the Hood to get a better view of what was happening. May not mean much to anyone but it is an interesting perspective.
So, after a ton of work I finally got the Hot Rod on the Dyno Monday. I watch way too much YouTube and Facebook so I had a number in mind. The new engine just felt like a beast compared to the old engine. My oldage memory recalled a 320 number on the old engine and I recalled that as horsepower with a larger torque reading. The new Holley Sniper had greatly improved drivability over the old carburator setup. I engaged John Gilliland to put a tune on the Sniper, we were running the basic Snip self learned tune on the new engine until Monday. The tune itself goes into dozens if not hundreds of areas of the engine, fuel, spark, and air combination at the entire range of engine speed, temperature, air density, and a number of other variables the new Sniper has provided sensors to measure. The first few pulls were well below 300 HP to the Wheels with Torque in the 320-330 range. That set the baseline. John went to work changing the timing and fueling, improving the driveability incredibly. Still the numbers only came up into the 320-330 wheel horsepower range though the torque did manage the mid 330's. Studying the pulls and John's seat of the pants intuition, we determined the Wheels were not hooking up to the dyno at all. After the tweaking, which included the fat guy sitting in the trunk, we did a final that netted right at 343 rear wheel horsepower and 358 foot pounds of torque. It was a general improvement in the numbers. But I was somewhat disappointed as my expectations were higher. I really had no idea of how good these results were.
First, going into the session I had no idea what the redline for the new motor was. We saw a clear falloff at 6200 RPM so that is where we set it.
Second the engine suffered an overheating problem with the old setup, often reaching 240 degrees on hot Texas days. On the trip out before the tune we averaged 190-195 degrees, showing a remarkable improvement over the previous engine. With the tune adjustments to idle and cruising timing, on the return the temps dropped to below 170, meaning I need to up the thermostat. The car cruises at about 185 degrees now as opposed to 192 prior to the tune.
Also on the way out I averaged 9 miles per gallon. On the way back with the new tune we averaged 14.5 miles per gallon figuring a near 30% increase in economy while cruising. Of course when my foot gets involed that gets worse sometimes.
My exhaust was designed for a 190 horsepower sbc crate engine with 2" collectors and tubing. The headers are 1 3/4 tubing. I need 2.5 to 2.75 inch headers with 3-3.5 inch collectors and 2.5 inch exhaust piping. Just my opinion
I installed an adjustable 4 Link system a few years ago and have never really gotten that effectively dialed in. I am old and don't bend so well. I don't have access to a rack to take the 4 link adjustable settings and properly set up the pinion angle. That may well have been a lot of the problem with the traction, though light weight needs to own some of it. I need to pay attention to that.
Overall drivability is excellent after the tune. John did a great job. Holley Sniper provide an okay daily driver safe solution and the learning keeps the finicky fuel tables up but the touch of a tuner smoothing out the timing and fueling transitions is a big improvement. In the photos below there are three sheets, two from the old engine done in 2016 and 2017 and the third is from the latest session. All in all a 50-55 rwhp gain and a 36 rwtq gain. over the 2017 session and an 81 rwhp gain over the 2016 session.
Fun article in NSRA's Street Scene Magazine about Ethyl. This was submitted before the louvered panels and the 383 Stroker but It is still an honor to be included in their publication. Lots of fun braggin about Factory Five, the 33 Ford hot Rod, and Ethyl. Forgive me if I get somewhat burdensome about it. Anyhow, enjoy the spread.
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I saw it, good article and pics.
'33 Hotrod, #1047 Gen 1, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
LS3 w/Gearstar Level 3 4L65e Tranny, Yank converter, Lokar shifter, Electric PS, Vintage AC/Heat/Def, 8.8" 3.55
TorqThrust II Wheels w/Toyo Proxy T1 Sport Tires, F 235/45ZR17 R 295/35ZR18
Garage Built, Driveway Painted.
Did a little piece on fabricating the engine compartment side panels. Enjoy
Don Ross of Don Ross Fabrications in Garland Texas recommended a set of side panels with louvers in them. Louvered panels were always a passion, but the fiberglass car was just difficult to work with and the steel liners would make the louvers cosmetic only. Don has restored several nostalgia cars and is in fact renowned for his efforts with examples of his work at the Don Garlits Museum in Florida. Don took one look and suggested we should build the panels out of mild steel. He showed examples in work he has done, and it was easy to agree. The existing panels were dropped off with him to use as templates to work with. Over the next few weeks, it was amazing to watch him turn the mild steel panels into a superb set of engine panels (Figures 9-12).
Don was able to precisely prep and adjust the car itself for fitment and did a fantastic job on shaping the mild steel panels (Figures 13-16). With only two sessions, the perfected the fitment was ready to be installed. Don developed a pin system for alignment of the panels along their lower contact while the existing panel bolts were engineered to ensure that in the end (Figures 15 and 17), two fully functional panel sets wildly different in styling. Three styles exist. They range from the more modern look of the Factory Five parts, to the austere look of the open engine compartment, and finally, the incredible looking and fitting louvered hoods. The raw work was so good enough to consider having 121 Rod and Restoration just put the patina on the panels, seal them, and let them go. 121 convinced me to go ahead and match them to the rest of the car.
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Bill
Do you have any info on the "pin and receptacle" pieces that you use for the side covers?
Thx
Steve
Gen 1 '33 Hot Rod #1104
347 with Holley Sniper & Hyperspark, TKO600, IRS, 245/40R18 & 315/30R18, DRL, Digital Guard Dog keyless Ignition
Not the same as what Bill used, but I found these on McMaster-Carr:
Dry-Running MDS-Filled Nylon Sleeve Bearing Light Duty, 3/64" Thick Flange, for 1/4" Shaft, 3/8" Long 6294K434
and
Surface-Mount Weld-on Pins 1/4" Diameter, 3/4" Long, Stainless Steel 94742A370
Not cheap, but not ridiculous.
Keith HR #894
I have to confess Don Ross, the fabricator, came up with the solution. Prior to the mods it took me literally an hour or more to remove or install the side panels. Don's solution is not that exotic. The parts consist of a mounting plate like 94715A250 at McMaster Carr with a bolt in Pin and set screws in the plate. I do not know if he got a complete set somewhere else. The pictures above have a punch he used to align the fabricated louverd panel foot sections to the existing holes I had in the car already. The end result is I can remove or replace a side panel in about 3 minutes. With the Louverd panels I hnow have three options on the car, louvered, standard, or open engine compartment. I made a litte video with better pictures of the pins and how they are mounted, plus a short session on mounting the side panel itself.
Cruising Saturdays, lots of exotics out
you know its the weekend when you see WRP out trolling for victims...lol
Bill keep those videos coming.
'33 Hotrod, #1047 Gen 1, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
LS3 w/Gearstar Level 3 4L65e Tranny, Yank converter, Lokar shifter, Electric PS, Vintage AC/Heat/Def, 8.8" 3.55
TorqThrust II Wheels w/Toyo Proxy T1 Sport Tires, F 235/45ZR17 R 295/35ZR18
Garage Built, Driveway Painted.
Me n Ethyl out Minding our own business, MMOB
Been boring you guys for several years now. Just finally had an experience and an epiphany. Discovered my true feelings about these cars and recieved the ultimate compliment. Took my builder's 15 year old nephew for a ride. Tried to get him to drive it, he was too respectful and shy. So anyhow we went out and flogged it. Hint watch the changes on his face from start to finish. There is no trophy, magazine article, chick pick up line or anything else that compares to the rush I get seeing someone else capture my feelings. His father is the second passenger.
Last edited by wrp; 11-28-2020 at 03:40 PM.
A few years ago when I had one of my cobras, I met a college kid at a gas station and he asked if he could go for a ride. He said he dreamed about cobras since he was little. I took him for a short wild ride including a high speed exit ramp. The smile was ear to ear, the fingerprints trying to hold on were everywhere, but the real proof was the small puddle in the passengers seat!