Redfogo's 818C build

[redfogo]

Where's your ebrake going?

Not in yet . The location in the frs is on the drivers side a little below the shifter. I will test and see if i like that location and if it fits. If that does not work though I think I will run the lever so its on the floor by the bottom of my seat. My 944 has it in this location I dont mind it.

[redfogo]

Went out for the 1st drive! Went good and bad... Good the car runs and drives bad the after market front axle stubs I bought are machined wrong so my wheel bearing comes out. Anyone have extra stubs?

Next up get my wires all tucked away inside and get the interior together before body time.

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Awkward video of me not knowing what to do while looking at the camera nice revs though!

[Frank818]

You are so quick, in Feb you were wiring it up and now you are driving it! Awesome!

[SnyderJD]

Looks great so far. much further along than I am...

[Frank818]

You moded your fuel filler neck? Remove the black sleeve and the alu pipe doesn't seem to have the same shape as mine and doesn't seem to reach the fuel cap opening either.

[redfogo]

You moded your fuel filler neck? Remove the black sleeve and the alu pipe doesn't seem to have the same shape as mine and doesn't seem to reach the fuel cap opening either.

It's a newer style FFR pipe it's not the same as the one in the manual. ATM I just have the upper rubber pipe zip tied onto the aluminum middle pipe. It's just to keep dust and stuff out of the gas tank. I have a feeling I will have to trim a lot off the rubber pipe, but I'm waiting tell I can get the body on. I'm not 100% sure if what they provided will work how I wanted.

[Frank818]

Is it supposed to go upwards towards the engine like that or you just fitted it quickly like that?

[redfogo]

Is it supposed to go upwards towards the engine like that or you just fitted it quickly like that?

Ohh it's just thrown on haha I would assume it's not on correct I just have it facing up so the cap dose not fall out!

[longislandwrx]

Awkward video of me not knowing what to do while looking at the camera nice revs though!

Bro, do you even Race Wars?

https://youtu.be/sBDEE3_Z-cw?t=48

ps I have stubs, send me a pm.

[redfogo]

Bro, do you even Race Wars?

https://youtu.be/sBDEE3_Z-cw?t=48

ps I have stubs, send me a pm.

Should have kissed at the camera maybe next time! Hahahah

I found some stubs last night we will see if they work! If not you will have a PM on the way!

[Frank818]

Coming back on the filler, once you fit it with the side sail could you show us? If that pipe works sensibly better than the original FFR one I might change mine. I have to put so much force fwd on my pipe to give it the angle to reach the cap through the sail it's unbelievable. An old flaw for a couple hundreds of frame #s...

[redfogo]

Coming back on the filler, once you fit it with the side sail could you show us? If that pipe works sensibly better than the original FFR one I might change mine. I have to put so much force fwd on my pipe to give it the angle to reach the cap through the sail it's unbelievable. An old flaw for a couple hundreds of frame #s...

Here is a picture of the pipe I believe it's on backwards but for know was only way to keep stuff out of the tank. Sorry I'm so late busy weeks away from the 818 :/ image.jpg

Bunch of zip ties tell things get farther along I just found out my 98 trans won't work so time to swap in a 2014 wrx trans so I might be a few weeks tell I do anything new!

[UnhipPopano]

Frank, Fiberglass does have its limitations. Compared to a metal body it is brittle and brakes rather than bend. If there is stress on the Gas fill pipe with the fiberglass, the fiberglass may crack or elongate the hole to relieve the stress. Forcing the pipe to fit will eventually result in a failure.

[Frank818]

Frank, Fiberglass does have its limitations. Compared to a metal body it is brittle and brakes rather than bend. If there is stress on the Gas fill pipe with the fiberglass, the fiberglass may crack or elongate the hole to relieve the stress. Forcing the pipe to fit will eventually result in a failure.

That is exactly my concern. Which is why after forcing the pipe I will use tie-wraps and other means to keep it steady so the FB will not have to force the pipe. I don't understand Red's rubber extension, it's a long 90-deg I just don't see how it will fit on the fender? It seems to be the same alu pipe I have, just the rubber that is different but I just don't get how this one is going to fit.

[UnhipPopano]

If we are talking about the same image, that was a temporary piece while he was in go cart mode. There is a section of rubber pipe on the bottom and another behind the filler cap. The two pieces allow the pipe in the middle enough room to move. For more flexibility you leave a longer distance for the rubber. If you use connect the pipe to the tank and the filler, it will not allow any movement. How much distance to leave for the rubber to move is not known and not documented in either the build manuals and the online builds.

[redfogo]

If we are talking about the same image, that was a temporary piece while he was in go cart mode. There is a section of rubber pipe on the bottom and another behind the filler cap. The two pieces allow the pipe in the middle enough room to move. For more flexibility you leave a longer distance for the rubber. If you use connect the pipe to the tank and the filler, it will not allow any movement. How much distance to leave for the rubber to move is not known and not documented in either the build manuals and the online builds.

So this is what FFR sent me I called and asked them if it was right they said it was.... Once the body is on I will know better but I assume I will need to cut the rubber to fit onto the fender. Since the directions also state cutting the pipe they used to give you.

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[redfogo]

Manged to get the 2014 WRX trans in I didn't feel like sourcing axles again so I bought the pre-assembled units form FFR. 2014 trans works with the 07 axles in case you need to know.

My trans came with what looks like copies of moore blast plates. Seemed like it was worth a shot keeping plus I didn't have the original bolts so it was the best option. If your using the shift linkage set up from Zero Decibel they won't fit though. I was unwilling to give up my Zero Decibel for silly plates so I made a compromise I left one side alone and cut the other side. I have no idea if they will even help now or not, if anyone knows let me know otherwise I might just have to find some factory hardware. For now here are some pictures on how I cut and welded them to clear.
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I also got a little bit farther on my center console set up looks like after I weld the tabs on the parking brake a different direction I should be able to keep the Impreza parking brake and Impreza factory parking cables without needing to adjust much. I also added an armrest storage section from a Porsche 1984 944.
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Finally got my coolant overflow tank mounted as well. Its 1.5qt aluminum tank.
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[redfogo]

I was having fuel starvation issues going up my hill when I had 5 gallons or less of gas in the tank. My hill to my house is very steep and my fuel pickup was sucking in air and stalling out my car. I have a walbro 450 and found that holly makes a hydramat that fits the pump directly yay! So I bought a hydramat Install is very easy if you remember when you installed your pre-pump filter its exactly the same. For me it went:
1. Take pump out.
2. Take old filter off the pump.
3. Place hydramat onto the fitting of the pump.
4. Place pump back in.

Here is a picture I couldn't really get a pic of it installed in the tank it comes with a wide range of locking clips so you can pick lots of different angles for the hydramat to be installed. (Link: to what I bought https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...s/parts/16-111)

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Finally got my floor remounted. Started to get carpet cut and my infinity box mounted. I have always been building my car around serviceability since the start. I mounted my firewall with the rivnuts along the top so it coudl be undone quick. I have also installed my carpet using industrial outdoor Velcro. I placed the "hard" side of the Velcro onto the firewall after that I just installed the carpet directly onto the velcro. You dont actually need both side just need the one "hard" side it grabs great with no issues its quick and easy to remove as well. I bought some basic indoor out door black carpet from menards. Its very light, looks good, and does not have a hard back on the carpet so its very light weight and if you really want to you can quickly remove it before you go to the track haha.

I also made a mounting board for my infinity box that sites in the middle between the 2 seats. Used some twist locks for the mounting. Again this was made so I could quickly remove if needed.

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Of course my cat had to try out the new carpet...

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[longislandwrx]

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your inspiration?

[Frank818]

I recognize those IBox parts!

[redfogo]

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your inspiration?

Yep! lol

[Hindsight]

Hi Redfogo - On the hydramat..... how did you deal with the in-tank baffle? Do you have the new or old tank? I think the old tank has a pan type baffle, and the new one has a small vertical wall running front to back. In either case, I'm curious what you did to get the hydramat onto the bottom of the tank since it seems either baffle would be in the way. Since the baffle is so small and probably not effective anyway, I was planning on just bashing it down with a hammer. Ultimately I will get a fuel cell.

[redfogo]

Hi Redfogo - On the hydramat..... how did you deal with the in-tank baffle? Do you have the new or old tank? I think the old tank has a pan type baffle, and the new one has a small vertical wall running front to back. In either case, I'm curious what you did to get the hydramat onto the bottom of the tank since it seems either baffle would be in the way. Since the baffle is so small and probably not effective anyway, I was planning on just bashing it down with a hammer. Ultimately I will get a fuel cell.

I placed in the tank at an angle. My pump mount is kind of at an angle going up as well since I could not get the pump to fit before back when I 1st attempted to install my pump. So the pump is not flush against the floor. Mine is leaning at an angle like this -----> "/" not by much but just a little bit. Because of the angle of my pump my filter floats a little so with the hydra mat it just kind of goes up and around the baffle there is a lot of slack so it just can droops over since the baffles are so small so it makes a "W" shape. I would recommend smashing down the baffles around the pump though I’m still testing a few things out on my set up currently my implantation works great but I do think it would work even better with the baffles smashed down. That’s something I was going to mess with next in the next few weeks. So long story short yes smash them down lol

[Hindsight]

Cool, thanks!

[Frank818]

How do you smash them down through the very little pump hole?

[Hindsight]

Pump hole on the new tank is larger. You can get a hand and a hammer in there. Old one.... I would stick a pipe down in there and hammer on the end of it sticking out of the tank.

I wouldn't do this if the tank had real baffles in it like the Boyd tank does. I just don't think the baffles in the FFR tank are going to do anything. In fact, I've proven on the track that they don't, even with the tank 3/4 full.

[Mechie3]

Aren't the FFR baffles sort of a cup that sits on the bottom? If the fuel gets below the lip of the cup, the cup won't even fill.

[Canadian818]

I really regret not baffling my tank when I had it cut open.

[Hindsight]

Aren't the FFR baffles sort of a cup that sits on the bottom? If the fuel gets below the lip of the cup, the cup won't even fill.

In the old tank, there is a small hole in the cup. In the new tank, there is no cup. There is a wall about 2-3" high, that sits on the bottom of the tank and spans front to rear, just to the side of the fuel pump. It has a couple small holes near the bottom.

I'd love to see the inside of a boyd tank to see how their baffles look.

[Mechie3]

If fuel is sloshing back and forth that forward (rearward?) facing hole won't get any flow. You could potentially empty the cup, have 3 " of fuel left, but no way for the fuel to get back into the cup.

[Frank818]

How many gallons is 3" high in the tank?

[redfogo]

Update on my interior its coming together! Sadly I have been pretty busy with rallycross at the moment so I haven't been able to get loads done, but I have managed to get half the interior done and got some of the front splash guard installed. If anyone here is attending rallycross national championships in IA let me know!

I also uploaded a few pics of some of the front end aluminum panels as I know I have gotten a few questions in the past on where or what "X" panel is or where it should go. While its not a very fun/cool picture progress I hopefully it helps someone.

Center console fitment went well(Note: Steering wheel is using a wireless RF transmitter I made to run the turn signals and horn. I will be posting guide once I get it all tested! I got the transmission of the signal tested so so far so good!)

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Front nose splash guard
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Front inner splash guard

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[Frank818]

Nice interior so far.

Do you have the old nose (not the retrofit)?

Is that you 3-wheeling the subie in mud?

[redfogo]

Nice interior so far.

Do you have the old nose (not the retrofit)?

Is that you 3-wheeling the subie in mud?

Nope I was one of the 1st 818c kits so all the new nose parts. Yes it is me doing the 3 wheel fun!

[redfogo]

Few more pics!
After thinking about it today I noticed that the rear window aluminum had to be installed before I install the top. I am not sure how others would handle this maybe it could be done if you could slide or pull the seat forward but with a fixed back seat there is no way you would be able to install the rear window aluminum without having the top off based on what I could tell. So I would recommend installing the rear window before you get the top on "for good".

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Used matte black paint for the rear window aluminum. I didn't want any shine to cause any sort of reflections while I was driving.
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Tabs I made to mount the harness bar lower to be more safe.
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[carrera1984]

Car sounds great, what exhaust is that? Thanks for all the pics. I've picked up a few ideas

[jcpresto]

How did you determine how high to mount it so it seals against the roof? I just took my seats out so I could ensure it was snug.

[redfogo]

Car sounds great, what exhaust is that? Thanks for all the pics. I've picked up a few ideas

At the moment just a resonator once i get my bumper cut out I will be getting the rest of the piping installed. I don't think the sound will change much with extra pipe. I don't plan to install any other mufflers or resonators in the stream. What I used --> http://vibrantperformance.com/catalo...products_id=47
You can find them form other venders online for a lot less just FYI.

How did you determine how high to mount it so it seals against the roof? I just took my seats out so I could ensure it was snug.

Good catch I had to reword my post I mean you can't really get it in once the top is on "for good". So I had to put the top on test fit and take it off. I'm still not a fan of how it seals with the roof as it really doesn't seem like it would be as soundproof and heat proof as I would like. We will see what I end up doing for that aspect. Maybe place some Heat tape around the seal from the engine bay side so people can't really see it.

[redfogo]

Well the time has come for the body to start being installed. I have been avoiding it! With my list getting smaller and smaller I plan to get the body installed this weekend/next week. I was hopping to get most of the interior in before the body but without the top on I can't get the dashboard installed in the right spot. I plan to get the interior in after the body is all set up. But for now here is what I have done.

I managed to get my rear brace installed to clear the VF30 turbo. I was having issues with the bar clearing the waistgate arm so I cut a notch in the brace so that it would clear the turbo. I cut the notch and then sealed up the hole by welding it back together.

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I was having issues with fuelcut because I deleted the VSS sensor(2014 WRX trans has no VSS for the trans). The Ej207 V7 ECU I guess does still require the VSS sensor. I picked up a MapDCCD wheel speed sensor that uses the OEM ABS sensors. I got the basic model(2 ABS sensor max) and am using 2 rear ABS sensors. I was going to put one in the front but for things like a dyno and such it may cause a reading error so I went with 2 in the rear. http://mapdccd.com/vss.html.

Started to assemble my head lights. I installed some LED lighting on the edge sense I really liked the look. It fits well but not OEM perfect by any means. Overall I am happy with the results. I bought 26in long lights and cut them tell I got the length need to fit correct. They light up both amber and white. I plan to have them blink amber for my turn signal.
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[Frank818]

You bought the same tubes I did. I am not fitting mines there though and I am looking at a different solution too to replace them, for various reasons. But it's not a bad place, how do they clear inside the fender flange once installed?
What are you going to do with the 8 eagle eye bulbs? Are they white, yellow, blue, switchbacks, other?