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    What a monster - congrats on the build and the show at SEMA. Great work!!
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    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

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    Super Video!

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    Erik,

    I Love Your Latest Creation For Being So Over The Top!
    Conversely, I Loved The Black Mamba For Being So Darn Period Correct!
    So Glad I Got To See Little Miss Mamba At The Begining Of Last Year's Hot Rod Power Tour!
    Please Know That I Can't-Wait To See What You Will Do If You Decide To Build The New Truck!

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    Great interviews, Fred and Erik! Your talent and workmanship shows through on your cars. Awesome cars, both of them!

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    Congrats gents, that's awesome!!

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    Why not... out on Vets day.... got another lap around the neighborhood to shake out the car... fixed the gear indicator.. sealed up the cockpit and made some runs on the highway... this time with the GoPro so much safer this way.

    anyway... nothing crazy... but proves that this is not just a show car... but drives nice down the road. Still haven't leaned on it too hard in the corners, braking or acceleration... all pulls were no MORE than 1/2 throttle. What a great day!!! thanks to FFR for building this kit.... should be some fun times ahead!!!!!

    here is some real in town driving and me even stalling it out...lol .... low on gas I think...


    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

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    Sounds fantastic!

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    It's wicked how fast it winds out.

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    Lol... and that's half throttle.... I still have not gotten to the floor!! It does pull hard though... the last bit of the video you can see my neck compress as it starts to pull
    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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    Great videos Erik!

    Wonderful job on the build!

    I just got my coupe this past thursday.
    If you had to guess how many hours you have in that build what do you think. I know yours is far from a routine build and your far from a run of the mill builder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forcefed1 View Post
    Great videos Erik!

    Wonderful job on the build!

    I just got my coupe this past thursday.
    If you had to guess how many hours you have in that build what do you think. I know yours is far from a routine build and your far from a run of the mill builder.
    About 80 hours....

    And if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you
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    lol....I started really working on the car in Jan... finished it Aug.... I really only worked on it on the weekends... and I did an average of 7hours a day on sat and sunday.

    The turbo and exhaust took a solid month. Making the cyclic stick work and not look or feel bad took a few weekends. Also staying with the MT82 transmission created challenges as well....Also being a Beta guy I had to wait or make some of the parts (that goes with the deal)... I also had a small issue with the original engine... I you don't color outside the lines I think the hardest part for me was getting the body and nose to line up so it looked right....other than that..it wasn't really that bad...

    how many total hours...? I really depends on the person... so not sure anything I say will be accurate... aim for 500hrs...I do the builds in 4-8 months with my method of execution..I don't look at the hours. In the end it isn't a race and if it takes you 1000 hrs to have something you like and is SAFE then spend the time that needs to spent.... don't worry how ling it takes... eventually all the boxes get emptied !! you will have set backs... work on something else and come back to that part.

    any lastly... use the forum! the instructions are a great place to start... but the forum is key.

    good luck !
    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

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    Sweet!
    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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    Awesome Awesome Awesome!!!!
    Nolan
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    http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...032#post297032

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    No time wasted... build it fast.... enjoy it even faster! (oil light is on cause the car is NOT running!)



    Took it out to the Base and ran it out in the test area... up to 120 --- added another 200 lbs in the passenger seat.. this finally allowed FULL throttle in 3rd gear following a good burnout on the line lock... the car IS a rocket.

    Equally impressive is that I can cruise through the school zone in 6th gear @ 25 mph....The alignment is spot on... able to leave my hands off the steering wheel (hands kept close obviously ) for over a 1/4 mile and the car stays in the lane.

    I am exhausted from the excitement and feeling of acceleration ... need a bit to let it all sink in...

    Stopped by work to show the car off.... could not leave... after 2 hours of people rolling in to look at it ... I had to get home....

    removed the 200 lbs from the passenger seat... tried to apply full power in 3rd gear again...... NOPE. ... back to half throttle driving And it was low 70's today as well.... thought that might have helped.... nope!

    more reports to follow.... but this is the smoothest driving car FFR has put out! The combination of the stiff chassis and the modern drivetrain is second to none... a breeze and a pleasure to drive!!!
    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

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    Erik,

    Glad you are finally able to enjoy that beautiful ride. How did it feel at 120? Nose getting light or just normal feel? Seems like the Gen 3 and Coyote motor are a great match.

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    Well... got the first 100 miles in and 1 car show... which was more like a car gathering than anything else...



    as all things go, had to address some "Erik design" issues....

    normal rattles of things that happen which have all been addressed... mostly where the body was rubbing on places or where I thought the door or rear hatch was ok... either it wasn't or it settled... in any case those are fixed...

    2 major issues came up... one was the "aircraft style" gas cap. I couldn't find an interface that would fit to the cap that would neck it down to the filler tube... the cap was designed to sit on a square flat box.... with anything over 1/2 tank of gas in a sharp left turn you could smell gas... meaning a leak... it was leaking at the piece I made (not perfectly flat).... I ended up figuring out a way to use the OEM mustang cap under the aircraft cap... solved 2 problems... no leaks and I can fill at full handle speed and the kick back works great! ----- and no more gas smell.



    The other thing that has been an issue is an oil smell at WOT... the turbos as you know in a very low location and I was HOPING that a "slight" slope was all that was needed... seems like that worked fine on the dyno since there were no other forces on the drain...In real life conditions... the car pulls VERY HARD as you can imagine. My drain lines went forward and tee'd in the front of the oil pan... so under "spirited driving" where either forces or oil pressure increased seemed like the drains were not able to keep up... not full smoke show but definitely smelly. .... After some conversation with Wayne and some other research, seems like I needed a oil sump pump to suck/push the oil into the oil pan... I installed it yesterday and it seems to have made a huge difference! I mounted next to the tranny so the oil flows backwards toward the rear of the car and then gets pumped to the front of the oil pan... the hose clamps will get exchanged for a proper hose length... ran out of -10 (of course) but need to find out if the extra part ($$$) was worth the payoff... seems so..... Still have a "slight" oil smell but I am hoping that is either

    1. residual oil from in the pipes
    or
    2. The open breathers sitting at the rear of the engine (I plan or running those out the back next)



    All in all seems like things are headed in the right direction and I am slowly expanding the distance from home and gaining confidence in the car's performance.... which is pretty much AWESOME... the power is nuts obviously... but the ease that it is delivered and the drivability of the tune is pretty amazing... the car also drives, handling wise.... extremely well... no complaints at all!! Might have to keep this one a while...lol
    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

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    And here is another one from today... out playing with my buddy.... who was awfully quiet in the car... lol.... thank to him for taking the video... You can hear how quiet the car is without being too quiet.....the LED's head lights work really good (Red trigger on the stick )



    drive off

    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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    little blast

    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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    Soooo Cool! What a beast...sounds ferocious!

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    little blast
    What a horse! Cool!

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    so it's my "go to work car" now!

    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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    Did you have any issues with putting the body on with the vertical side panels that you have carpeted installed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik W. Treves View Post
    Welp. My wife says I always act cranky at this part of the build.... finishing up.... seems like things have to be done 3 and 4 times since I am finishing some areas... but this car seems to want to fight me a little at each turn...I got a slight cold so my mood was a little off....finally got the gas level to read out on the AIM dash only to notice that now my water temp was reading 256 with engine off and no coolant....no coolant cause my radiator had a crack in the weld...another story... well decide I must have a break in the wire going to ECU so I have to break open the nice wire loom I made.... only to find out that ... all the wires are good...but my gauge is still off..... so Wayne (who picks up the phone for me without any grief ) asks me if I have plugged in the OBD II reader? I hadn't of course... and sure enough there is a code for temp sensor out of limits....clear the code... look at that water temp reads ambient!! good think I broke open the engine harness .... rrrrr.... Then I needed to order wheel spacers.... Gen 3's running FFR 18 inch wheels....need at least 1 inch wheel spacers... so.. I figure I will bolt those on... nope... now my lug nuts are too long..... rrrrr....

    So you see.... I am not a machine! I am just a man.... I struggle with the same stuff everybody else does.... only thing that helps is the "wayne method" is what I call it.... if you can't solve something right away....do something else! then come back to it....when the solution presents itself.... that and NO SLEEP and worry about EVERYTHING ....lol.....

    Even with all this... I did manage to plumb the water lines all the way back to AC/HEAT, route the defrost hose to the dash area, completely wire up the AC/HEAT with AC demand wired into the Ford ECU , installed about 70% of the sound insulation and about 50% of the carpet. Going slow there as I am trying to make the tunnel top removable for service later if needed.... but still make it look like it isn't removable...

    I will hopefully get the AC lines run to front of the car this week and that will allow me to seal up the tunnel and finish the carpet. Then about a dozen things that need some final adjustments (new steering wheel with quick release) and we wait for paint.

    anyway.... here is the part that is done, done..

    Nolan
    65 coupe Gen 3 "Phoenix" build
    http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...032#post297032

    818 s (with r windscreen ) 350 rwhp. Registered and street legal (SOLD)

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    none at all... the back piece must be removed though!
    FFR 1879, Blown DSS 306,REDLINE management, VeryCoolParts Tuned 460RWHP

    FFR 818S, The Flash, Chassis #5, 2.0L, LSD, Electromotive TEC-S, VCP Tuned, 278RWHP 265 RWTQ

    FFR 6651, Green Lantern, 408W Crate, Hellion 66mm Turbo, JGS Waste gate / Blowoff valve, Tec-GT management, VCP Tuned, 575 RWHP, 690 RWTQ

    FFR 8335, Black Mamba, 289 FIA CSX 2001 tribute car, 347, 48 IDA webers, VCP Tuned, 311 RWHP 386 RWTQ, 3-link, Trigo's

    FFR 0004, Gen 3 , Hawk Coupe, Coyote twin turbo, 683 RWHP 559 RWTQ, IRS, VCP Tuned. "not too shabby"

    US ARMY Maintenance Test Pilot (CW4 Retired)

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