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    cont'd...

    Door Pull cut outs...
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    33' Hot Rod Coupe/Roadster (GEN 1), Fendered, Ford 302, 350hp, EFI, AOD, 4-Link, Double Adjustable Koni Coilovers, Split Rear Exhaust, Electric Power Steering, AC/Heat/Defrost, Moser 8.8"-3.55, Willwood Front/Rear Brakes, 18" x 8" Fronts/20" x 10" Rears, Ordered: 1.26.17, Arrived: 3.29.17, First Start: 7.2.18, Go Cart: 11.4.18 Paint/Body: 2.23.19, Back Home: 11.24.19, Completed: NEVER!; View More Pics @ https://starmobileone.com/

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    Getting there!
    The AC/heater kit has cheap black plastic defrost vents but yours look a little nicer, are they metal?
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    Summit Racing...63100-VUQ, aluminum

    Quote Originally Posted by FF33rod View Post
    Getting there!
    The AC/heater kit has cheap black plastic defrost vents but yours look a little nicer, are they metal?
    33' Hot Rod Coupe/Roadster (GEN 1), Fendered, Ford 302, 350hp, EFI, AOD, 4-Link, Double Adjustable Koni Coilovers, Split Rear Exhaust, Electric Power Steering, AC/Heat/Defrost, Moser 8.8"-3.55, Willwood Front/Rear Brakes, 18" x 8" Fronts/20" x 10" Rears, Ordered: 1.26.17, Arrived: 3.29.17, First Start: 7.2.18, Go Cart: 11.4.18 Paint/Body: 2.23.19, Back Home: 11.24.19, Completed: NEVER!; View More Pics @ https://starmobileone.com/

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    Just a few items worth mentioning this week. Kory and Abel got the new cutouts done and the 39' tail lights installed and I really like this look!

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    I had held them up on the inside door handles as apparently when I purchase the handles I only purchased the handles and not the cables required for connection. I went back to Autolok on them and they were back ordered so far back they couldn't even give me a date, so I had to roll the dice and go with a Lokar cross-reference and I believe they worked out ok...

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    Kory and I are in early discussions about a safety pin to secure the doors as well...will update as we figure that out.

    Another part of the car that I was really excited about was the Headwind Headlights...man they did a great job and these things are going to look outstanding once mounted and then the grill is chromed...

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    Then Engine Side Panels are on for the time being, but the support brackets for the headlights will have to go under them, so they will need to come off again for that and the hood is really just sitting on the vehicle at this point...

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    33' Hot Rod Coupe/Roadster (GEN 1), Fendered, Ford 302, 350hp, EFI, AOD, 4-Link, Double Adjustable Koni Coilovers, Split Rear Exhaust, Electric Power Steering, AC/Heat/Defrost, Moser 8.8"-3.55, Willwood Front/Rear Brakes, 18" x 8" Fronts/20" x 10" Rears, Ordered: 1.26.17, Arrived: 3.29.17, First Start: 7.2.18, Go Cart: 11.4.18 Paint/Body: 2.23.19, Back Home: 11.24.19, Completed: NEVER!; View More Pics @ https://starmobileone.com/

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    I will be following and looking to see what you do as a safety pin as that is one item that i still need to resolve as the bought ones really done work like I want.
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    Looking great

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    Going with electric locks from Carolina Customs...will follow up with more details on the "how" soon


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    33' Hot Rod Coupe/Roadster (GEN 1), Fendered, Ford 302, 350hp, EFI, AOD, 4-Link, Double Adjustable Koni Coilovers, Split Rear Exhaust, Electric Power Steering, AC/Heat/Defrost, Moser 8.8"-3.55, Willwood Front/Rear Brakes, 18" x 8" Fronts/20" x 10" Rears, Ordered: 1.26.17, Arrived: 3.29.17, First Start: 7.2.18, Go Cart: 11.4.18 Paint/Body: 2.23.19, Back Home: 11.24.19, Completed: NEVER!; View More Pics @ https://starmobileone.com/

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    I know that most of ya'll understand the concept of "no" or "little visual update"...meaning that work has transpired but it may appear as if progress has not be made. There are sooooo many little things that go into getting this vehicle "Paint" ready. I understood that in the beginning, but I have so much of a greater appreciation for that now. Kory and his team seem to think of everything. Every week I make a list of discussion points...things that I feel are on the horizon in the build. About halfway into my visit at the shop Kory or Abel have covered my list without me even mentioning a thing. By the time the visit is over, the only thing left I have to discuss is how crappy the weather is! Anyway, the point I am making is that each week I look forward to what Kory and his team have accomplished the week prior and each week I continue to be impressed with the thought they are putting into the completion of my build. The pics that are shown here just don't do justice to the time, effort and thought that are going into the "behind the scenes" work.

    So this week, the Hood was installed and mounted. One of the points Kory brought up was that by going with the Extra Clearance Hood, the stiffeners that typically run down the middle of the underside of the hood (and allow for the mounting of the Hood Prop) are not there...will need to figure this out soon! The latch for the Hood as well as the Hood Release were also installed. The Hood Release is mounted very close to where the manual shows to mount (I tried to get a picture but it didn't turn out), which is right under the dash very close to the drivers side door. I also like how the flush M/C Covers turned out and allow for the Hood to sit flush on the cowl. The Engine Side Panels were both installed too. Abel said he is going to have to shave a bit off the inside of the Grill lip to allow for the Engine Side Panel to sit flush with the surface of the Grill side. Kory also mentioned that he may set the Headlights up with a plate behind the Side Panel and plugs, so that in the event the Side Panels do need to be removed, the Headlights will just come off with them. We are going to have to move the mount location for the Headlights back just a bit to get them away from the edge of the Grill, which I actually think will look better than where I had them in the pics from last week. They are also going to install a small spring at the nose of where the Grill and Hood meet to allow just a bit of a push when the Hood Release is pulled. They received the Door Safety Lock Pins yesterday, so we discussed the location of these too. Since I opted for the Electric Lock Pins (much more bulky) there is not a lot of space to install these. They will actually be mounted below the Door Frame (in the door) and then when actuated will stab into the Striker area in the Body portion of the door. By mounting in this area it will still allow for the room that will be required for the Windows and Regulator...

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    33' Hot Rod Coupe/Roadster (GEN 1), Fendered, Ford 302, 350hp, EFI, AOD, 4-Link, Double Adjustable Koni Coilovers, Split Rear Exhaust, Electric Power Steering, AC/Heat/Defrost, Moser 8.8"-3.55, Willwood Front/Rear Brakes, 18" x 8" Fronts/20" x 10" Rears, Ordered: 1.26.17, Arrived: 3.29.17, First Start: 7.2.18, Go Cart: 11.4.18 Paint/Body: 2.23.19, Back Home: 11.24.19, Completed: NEVER!; View More Pics @ https://starmobileone.com/

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    33' Hot Rod Coupe/Roadster (GEN 1), Fendered, Ford 302, 350hp, EFI, AOD, 4-Link, Double Adjustable Koni Coilovers, Split Rear Exhaust, Electric Power Steering, AC/Heat/Defrost, Moser 8.8"-3.55, Willwood Front/Rear Brakes, 18" x 8" Fronts/20" x 10" Rears, Ordered: 1.26.17, Arrived: 3.29.17, First Start: 7.2.18, Go Cart: 11.4.18 Paint/Body: 2.23.19, Back Home: 11.24.19, Completed: NEVER!; View More Pics @ https://starmobileone.com/

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    As soon as you have pics of the electric door lock installed i would like to see how they did it as this is still a sticking point with me on mine!
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    Did receive some feedback from Tony @ FFR regarding the location of the Prop Rod on the Extra Clearance Hood...he referenced the Flame car where he attached the Hood Prop on the fire wall so the pivot point was on the driver's side. He also suggest placing it on the Engine Side Panel on the return flange, if you are not removing them. AJT '33 posted some similar information about this on his build page post #231) and actually has some pics of the car... https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...Rod-1028/page6
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    I love the tail lights

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    Here is the weekly update...Tim Whittaker's Deck Lid Stiffeners were used on the trunk. Abel was inset them into the trunk with some panel bond then used screws on the top side to fine-tune the adjustment. These seemed to add some rigidity to the trunk and everything will clean-up nicely in final prep...

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    The highlight of the week for me was seeing the Headwinds installed on the car...to me they just compliment the grill of the car so well (lots of pics here, so be patient)...

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    Finally, Kory and I are toying around with a few ideas regarding the hood as well, but I am not committed to doing anything (or nothing) as of yet...I need to visualize a few things first...Will post more when I have an update...

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    Hoping for final trunk latch fit-up, the chin install (which Kory suggest may be a pain) and crossing my fingers on some fender trimming too this week (really want to see the car with the fenders cut).
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    I love the headlights. They really pop

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    Looking great, you have to be proud

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    Headlights look awesome!
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    My weekly trek to Trenton came a day early this week as I took off today. Lot's of work done this week by Kory and Abel...but first my contribution was purchasing a set of 2" Mustang Wheel Adapters to push the rear tires out a bit. We will still trim the fenders back some to take a little more of the curvature out of it, but this definitely gets the tires out further. Back story...I really liked these wheels and they kept me in my budget when it came to tires and wheels, so I was at the mercy of what Cragar offered in these. The offset was a little different than what FFR had suggested, so I ultimately went with the adapters. Definitely not the first option, but will check them for torque often. I really like the look now within the fenders and from the rear (no cuts on the fenders as of yet though)...

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    Did not expect for Abel to have the Windows in this week, but with the install of the safety locks, I guess it made sense to confirm clearance. I don't know this for a fact, but I think Abel might have been cussing me all week long for going with the electronic safety locks ! (manual pins would have taken up much less space) He said there was a lot of modifications to the Carolina Custom safety pins that had to occur and in the end there was only one location for them and that was in the front lower portion of the door. Even then he had to take apart the entire mounting plate and make some mods to several of the components for everything to work. When it was all said and done it looks great and I believe will function well. You can see how close the manual safety rod ends up being to the jamb and Abel did his best bring this up some, but there seems to be enough room for the teardrop knob (if we end up using it). You can also see where the pin will engage the jamb below the striker. You can see from the pics some of the mods that Abel performed on the window set-up as well. I had originally purchased the FFR power windows (by the way make sure you check the glass under the paper as I believe mine may have a few scratches in it...but I will follow up with FFR on this later) then purchased Dan Ruths set-up as well. I turned both over to Kory and Abel and told them to use whatever they needed from either to create the best solution for the windows and I believe that is exactly what they have done. Not shown in the pics (as they are not installed yet) are the vertical tracks for either side of the window..


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    33' Hot Rod Coupe/Roadster (GEN 1), Fendered, Ford 302, 350hp, EFI, AOD, 4-Link, Double Adjustable Koni Coilovers, Split Rear Exhaust, Electric Power Steering, AC/Heat/Defrost, Moser 8.8"-3.55, Willwood Front/Rear Brakes, 18" x 8" Fronts/20" x 10" Rears, Ordered: 1.26.17, Arrived: 3.29.17, First Start: 7.2.18, Go Cart: 11.4.18 Paint/Body: 2.23.19, Back Home: 11.24.19, Completed: NEVER!; View More Pics @ https://starmobileone.com/

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    33' Hot Rod Coupe/Roadster (GEN 1), Fendered, Ford 302, 350hp, EFI, AOD, 4-Link, Double Adjustable Koni Coilovers, Split Rear Exhaust, Electric Power Steering, AC/Heat/Defrost, Moser 8.8"-3.55, Willwood Front/Rear Brakes, 18" x 8" Fronts/20" x 10" Rears, Ordered: 1.26.17, Arrived: 3.29.17, First Start: 7.2.18, Go Cart: 11.4.18 Paint/Body: 2.23.19, Back Home: 11.24.19, Completed: NEVER!; View More Pics @ https://starmobileone.com/

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    Abel also got the trunk latch installed and working properly, which I got the feeling, was no easy task either. He had to actually bend the latch and re-weld it to allow for it catch properly without altering the lie of the trunk. You can see where he had to modify some of the surfaces of the trunk itself as well. You can see from the pics that there are several parts that I probably powder coated a little too early..

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    Very impressed with the progress of the week. I had mentioned previously that Kory and I have been toying around with some ideas regarding vents for the hood. I am running AC but I am not going crazy on HP with the 302, but after discussing with Kory, we both think it might be a good idea to get a little more airflow across the engine. I don't have the visualization skills that Kory does, so I need to see pictures or at least drawings to start helping me decide what I think would look best (or if we even still want to do it). I have not committed to anything yet, but below are pics of some templates I drew up for us to start playing with. Kory also suggested doing a mirrored image of the grill in the vent area which I thought was a cool look as well...

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    Your pics aren't showing up.
    For side vents I'm using some I bought from www.streetdreamsbyross.com

    See post 260, I don't have them installed yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLev View Post
    Your pics aren't showing up.
    For side vents I'm using some I bought from www.streetdreamsbyross.com

    See post 260, I don't have them installed yet.
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    Thanks for the headsup on pics...working with admin to get fixed.


    Thanks for link on vents as well. I would like to finish the vents out (however I decide to go) with some chrome, but with all of the contours in that area of the hood it is going to be a challenge...and doing it without it costing a small fortune is key to as we get closer to the end of the build (and closer to the end of the budget).
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    Very interesting on the wheel adaptors, I did not know something like that was available that's why reading the forum is so important. I have the same issue with back spacing on my rear rims. The root I went was pressing out the wheel studs and installing longer Moroso studs then using a 7/8 spacer. I would like to move the out at least another 1/2" but don't think running wheel spacers that thick would be safe.

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    2nd on the vents from SteetDreams... Jimlev sent me there and they are very nice looking vents Plus never found any that I like better. They come natural Aluminum and can be Anodized, Power Coated, Painted or left natural. Probably do Clear Powder coat on mine. Not installed on my end yet either.

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    Happy Memorial Day to All!

    I just want to take a brief moment to remember those who have been lost in service and those that have served or continue to serve so that we may live in this great country. Too many times your contribution and sacrifice seem to go unnoticed...I want to thank you for myself and for my family!

    God Bless to All!
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    Quote Originally Posted by duff33 View Post
    Very interesting on the wheel adaptors, I did not know something like that was available that's why reading the forum is so important. I have the same issue with back spacing on my rear rims. The root I went was pressing out the wheel studs and installing longer Moroso studs then using a 7/8 spacer. I would like to move the out at least another 1/2" but don't think running wheel spacers that thick would be safe.
    I think past 1/2", wheel adapters are the way to go (at least IMO). Still there are some skeptics and you do need to make sure they are torqued on a regular basis. Also, this is not a part that I would spare expense on. Get a good quality billet set from a reputable company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOP33 View Post
    I think past 1/2", wheel adapters are the way to go (at least IMO). Still there are some skeptics and you do need to make sure they are torqued on a regular basis. Also, this is not a part that I would spare expense on. Get a good quality billet set from a reputable company.
    Agreed here, I bought my set of stainless wheel adapters from "www.wheelspacers.ca" (and you would benefit from the exchange rate!!) and they fit extremely well, not expensive. They also can machine the exact size or thickness you want as well. There is a point where instead of replacing the studs you can use the adapters and just keep the same bolt pattern in place of changing it. Mine are 20mm or about 3/4" thick which is the minimum thickness for an adapter. They provide the adapter as well as the nuts that would be I used to attach the adapter to the hub, then use our existing bolts for the wheels. I'll find some pics and edit the post thereafter.
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    The original plan for this weekend was to not go out to Kory's shop as he was going to be out of town this weekend, but after reaching out to him to confirm this he let me know that he was actually off by a week and that it would be next weekend that he will be gone...so that meant that I was headed out again this morning to see what progress had been made this week. Surprisingly, when I got there Kory informed me that either this week or next, he felt that the fab portion will be complete and he will be handing things off to the body/paint side of the shop. Abel powered through the modifications that he needed to make to the Chin piece to get it to fit up...

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    Kory and Abel also suggested placing the light that indicates in-active engagement on the door safety pins recessed behind the door handle pulls. I thought this was a pretty cool place to put them. The light will be off when the safety pin is engaged and working properly and it will turn red if it ever becomes dis-engaged...

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    For all this to work properly, he is going to have to go with a few more contacts on wire eliminators for the door, but I told Kory I would prefer to just go with one bigger set than to have two that were independent from each others. Needless to say I will have a (5) pin set available in a few weeks for anyone that may need one as the one shown below will be replaced...

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    After installing the safety pin light, changing out the wire eliminators and then finally trimming the fenders this week, Kory said they will begin the body work.

    I think I have decided on doing a Mini-Mustang Grille cutout for the vents in the hood (we'll go vertical on the cross pieces though). Kory seconded this as he likes that the best as well. So I have been tasked with coming up with an insert that will ultimately be chromed to fit in the bulge of the hood. I told Kory that I have all the confidence in the world that he can make the cut and it look awesome and absolutely NO confidence that I can fab the insert. There are A LOT of contours all coming together in that area of the hood, so anything there will be challenging, but I will attempt it. So I will be hitting the CAD this weekend to figure how I want to design this...

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    I have been asked about how Tim Whittaker's Deck Lid Stiffeners were used and installed... I think there are some different approaches to this and I am sure they all achieve different levels of results. So I am not here to say that this is the best or an inferior way of using them, as I was pretty happy with the results, but since I was not the one to install these, I will try to communicate as best as I can what was presented to me by 121 Rod & Restoration... Relief cuts were placed in the deck lid so that the stiffeners can actually be recessed into the trunk. The stiffeners were then placed into the reliefs against the inner panel of the lid and then using self tapping screws (small) from the outside of the lid the stiffener was drawn against the lid. Rough adjustments were made to the stiffeners to obtain the required contour of the lid, then tack welds were made to the stiffeners pie cuts to lock things down a bit (as the pie cuts allow for some manipulation of the stiffeners). The stiffener is then replaced this time with some panel bond applied to the top side of the stiffener (to seat against the underside of the top skin of the lid). The screws are then placed back in the lid and not completely tightened this time. Confirmation of the contour and fit-up are made at this point using the screws to "fine-tune" as needed once the proper fitment is made panel bond is added to the underside to close everything up. I apologize as I don't have any pics of the work in progress, but post #493, I believe, shows the end result. Kory and his team seemed pretty happy with this method and the fit-up looked good to me. My ears usually burn quite a bit during the weeks when ANY panels are fit-up on the car as I am sure Kory and his team are touting the quality of the fiberglass panels... Ultimately the screws will be removed and panel bond will be used to fill the holes as well. Hope this make sense to most.
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    Here is the first attempt at the Hood Vent Concept, it is basically a shrunk down 2018 Mustang Grill. The overall is ~1.5" x 12". I am having (2) 3d Printed here locally (one with the tabs and one without to help with layout) first to test fit this weekend. I think it will be close enough dimensionally to at least prove out the concept and then make adjustments from there. My thinking was that the tab design will allow us to drill holes to panel bond to the underside of the hood, but I relieved the area in between the tabs to allow the contour to flex a bit since there are so many contours that converge in this area on the hood. I will follow up with an update (success or failure) later this week...

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    So I moved from Design to Reality on the Hood Vent at least in theory. I had these 3D Printed yesterday (for just $20), so now I can take them up to the shop with me tomorrow and confirm size and fit-up. I know I have seen a few of you use this process (3D Printing) on a some of your parts. There really is no better way to go when trying to build one offs of smaller components, or concept pieces for your build and this technology is just really in its infancy (very amazing)...

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    Little back story to begin with here...I never wanted Fenders on my 33'. I don't think they look bad on the car, I just never pictured them in my "original" design I had in my mind (my lack of visualization plays a key role in this story). However, as I go carted the car and was peppered with a barrage of pebbles from the road that runs in front of our house at the mere 10 mph that I was traveling my heartbeat slowly increased and simultaneously (in almost cinematic form) my mind would jump from the ticking of the pebbles hitting the body to the glorious Star paint scheme that I had chosen to embark on...back and forth, speeding up in my mind with every tick. And then it hit me (no, not another pebble), but that my vision of my Fenderless 33' Hot Rod was fading! Fast forward through the last year, I have been slowly coming to the realization that if I was going to spend any money at all on my paint job I was probably going to need to install fenders (if nothing else from a "protecting the investment" perspective). Every week it has been a little bit deeper conversation with myself, convincing myself that it will be okay. So over the last few months I have continued to move a little closer each week with the realization of this compromise. The conclusion I settled on (and the one that Kory and his team would be challenged with) would be that if I was going to go with Fenders, they would need to be functional, but they would need to appear "tight" to the tires wheels meaning that a significant portion of them would need to be trimmed away. Very little flaring behind the rear fenders, the corners radiused as much as possible and much (if not all) of the outside radius of the front fenders trimmed away. Throughout the conceptual process, Kory kept warning me about cutting away too much of the outside radius on the front fenders and that he was concerned that they would look too much like trailer fenders...I couldn't visualize what he meant. Earlier this week we made the first attempt at the front fender cuts based on my concept...and before the trimmed piece of fiberglass hit the shop floor, I saw what Kory had warned me about! . Like flipping a switch, it hit me like a brick. Everything I had told Kory to do, he had just done...and it looked bad! The flatness, no radius, all that I had asked for I just got! Well, the evil about this car being fiberglass that day became a blessing as Kory and his team were able to clean some areas up, trim some other areas and then surgically replace the piece I had just hours before asked them to trim away...and amazingly enough I got the look I was wanting all along! Now, we all agree that as the car goes to body prep next week (as all fab is now complete) that there is plenty of glass work to be done...but the bones are there now and the look is there. I guess the lesson for me in this is that I had learned throughout my short relationship with Kory and his shop, that first, they will always give me exactly what I am asking for (whether I truly want it or not) and secondly, that occasionally when an expert tells me something (many times over) I should probably fall in love with the idea for at least a few minutes before discounting it...Thanks to Kory and his team, once again for baling me out (again)! Pics of the before and after are shown below, and again, much work to be done to the repair, but we are where we need to be now (and I am content with it)!

    Not for the faint at heart...

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    Now the Rear Fenders, which I was always the most concerned about, came out awesome first time out (this might have to do with much less intervention by me on the front end)...

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    As mentioned previously, I also took the vents out that I had 3D Printed. I was actually pretty impressed with the layout of these on the first try as well. I will clean a few things up and maybe stretch the length a little and shorten the height just a bit and then move to machining out of aluminum on these...

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    So the car is all but done at the "fab" portion. It will move over to the body prep side next week and all though it is a huge step, there is still plenty of work to be done. Abel was showing me the underneath of the Hardtop yesterday and honestly, just not some of FFR's best work. I forgot to take pics but where all of the seams come together in the front pillar (underneath) there was nothing but broken seams. This will all have to be reinforced with glass...a flat out miss by FFR on this, but at this point I'd rather have the shop deal with it and correct the issue than try and go back and forth with FFR (and I am sure they would do the right thing), but from my perspective, it may not be the easiest thing.
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    Not much to update this week as Kory and his team have been busy with a few other cars, however the Waterfall did get placed in and Kory and I had some really good discussion about a few items...

    First, he suggested to me that at the end of this week would probably be a good time to get the car over to the audio shop so they can do the prep work for the stereo. The shop that will be doing the work has done work for me in the past and they are extremely familiar with quality, custom installation. I am not try to go for the moon here, but I do want a good sounding system and an installation that compliments the rest of the finishes on the build. My biggest challenge so (well, one of them) has been deciding on a receiver. My intent has always been to install a front facing and a back-up camera in the car. The front facing mainly to aid in pulling into parking spots or possibly "pre-view" a challenging area for the lower grill area. I know, probably 10 times out of 10 your gonna hit before you can react to it, but at least I'll feel like I did everything I could to avoid it. The back-up camera, I believe is pretty self-explanatory, especially for anyone that has sit in one of these. So the two above decisions that I have made have really narrowed my choices as far receivers...Most receivers that handle a camera input are double-din size chassis's (to allow for the screen) and then on top of that, I want to be able to control (2) cameras. Now on top of that, add that my shifter sits extremely close to the dash (in park) and even in drive I believe would make any kind of touch screen interface difficult to access. So I had initially looked at a Kenwood unit that MBB Larry is using and does accommodate the camera(s), bluetooth, etc., however it would still have to be placed right below the dash and once again that could be challenging to access. After doing some more research and talking to my audio guys yesterday I think I may go with actually mounting the unit in the area aft of the shifter on the trans tunnel. They turned me on to two possible option (both have double-din screens). The first is an Alpine shallow depth receiver that is only 2-3/8" deep, but I think the one that I am going to go with is going to be a Pioneer that the screen is only 1" in depth and can be mounted independently of the rest of the unit. So once I get past the head unit, next will be trying to figure out where we can install speakers...thinking (6) at this point, but it may drop to (4). I am going to leave that to the audio experts once they get their eyes on the vehicle. Anyway, so I am hoping to get the car trailer'd to their shop in the next week and a half at which point they will just do prep (wire routing, etc.).

    Secondly, and the most exciting thing that came from our conversation was that we are setting a date of September 7th as a reveal date for the car! Actually, I set the date, and to be honest, Kory would be okay with me just driving the car home, but it is only fitting that we unveil Star Mobile One the day before the Cowboys first game of the season! I've got it written in pencil for now (just in case) !

    We are making a few adjustments to the hood vent, so I will try to get those mods made this week. As we start really drilling down toward a completion date, several things start swinging back my direction for scheduling and design (or at least finalizing the design)...I know some are probably saying "well it is your "build""! Believe me, I sometimes have to stop and remind myself that I did get this car to the Go Cart stage.... So finalizing the "star" layout and also the final design for the interior are also on tap this week. I suggested to Kory that we try using an Artograph on the star (see pics below from in the shop - the star is about 70" wide). I think it will help his team layout the masking on the side of the car.

    The final thing we discussed, and the most important to my wife is that we are on target with the budget for 121 Rod & Restorations portion of this build...!

    Well stay tuned all, I know I just seemed to ramble on today, but it really does stink not having the car here to work on (as yard work is not a fun alternative), but I like to try and post an update at least weekly.

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    This is a "paper doll" cut out of the Alpine Stereo I was thinking of using (maybe)...
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    I think last week I may have posted a rant about the hardtop fiberglass work from FFR without any pictures - here are the pics of where the seams come together...
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    So after some further discussion with Kory yesterday and talking through some of his concerns with sending the car to an Audio Shop for the sound work, I decided that between he, Abel and I, we will take on the Audio and Video install for the vehicle. He brought up some extremely valid points...Audio Shops are usually all about the sound and (in most cases) are not so concerned about the functionality of other things within the car (or the rest of the build for that matter). This tends to be even more so the case when they are not dealing with a "factory built" vehicle. Now the quality of sound and installation you might get may be superb, but cabinets may be built for airspace that impede on other areas of access and so on. In the end, he said that historically, they have had to spend some time after they get cars back either altering or fixing areas that might no longer work for the build. I think I will still be able to get good quality sound out of a system that will be extremely functional and there is no question in my mind that Kory and Abel will install everything to compliment the quality of work they have shown so far. All in all, I feel really good about this decision and actually purchased the Head Unit(s) (two because I'm not sure just yet which I am going to use) and then the (2) cameras we will be installing in the front (behind the grill) and then a back-up camera in the rear. Speakers will come later. I will share more details on the components and any challenges we encounter along the way as this portion of the build progresses.

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    I’m thinking along the same lines on cameras. One mounted above the rear window in the hardtop, and the second up front somewhere once I can start to play with it. I’m interested in the head end unit you choose as well. So many options and choices.
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    Received the two Head Units today along with the Cameras. No real feedback to provide at this point on any of it other than all well packaged and all sizes lived up to what was promised. Still no decision on which way I will go as of yet...

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    Stay tuned for additional feedback as I have it!
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    We're thinking along the same lines. I'm waiting for the Sony XAV-AX7000 to be released. It's a digital media receiver but with double the power output per channel. So good robust sound without the need for an external amp. I will be using the Pioneer BC8 backup camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FF33rod View Post
    We're thinking along the same lines. I'm waiting for the Sony XAV-AX7000 to be released. It's a digital media receiver but with double the power output per channel. So good robust sound without the need for an external amp. I will be using the Pioneer BC8 backup camera.
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    Great minds right! I am also playing around with possibly (2) 3-1/2" 2-Ways in the front (SOMEWHERE???) and then (2) 6-1/2" 2-Ways in the Rear. Let the stereo run the fronts and power the rears off a 2 Channel Amp x 60. Maybe add sub later if that's not enough.
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