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    Tim, did you get a tracking number. I received an email on 12/6 that said mine shipped that day and I would receive a tracking number. Nothing yet.
    33 Hot Rod Stage 1 delivered on 4/27/2017, Stage 2 delivered on 9/21/2018
    LS3 376/480, 4L70E, Electric PS, Classic Auto Air, Lokar electronic sport shifter,
    Ford 8.8 w 3.73 w 4 link, Billet Specialty Legend Series MAG wheels and Mickey Thompson
    Sportsman S/R 26x8x18 front and 29x18x20 rear tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by HVACMAN View Post
    Tim, did you get a tracking number. I received an email on 12/6 that said mine shipped that day and I would receive a tracking number. Nothing yet.
    Never mind.... It was waiting for me when I got home from work.
    33 Hot Rod Stage 1 delivered on 4/27/2017, Stage 2 delivered on 9/21/2018
    LS3 376/480, 4L70E, Electric PS, Classic Auto Air, Lokar electronic sport shifter,
    Ford 8.8 w 3.73 w 4 link, Billet Specialty Legend Series MAG wheels and Mickey Thompson
    Sportsman S/R 26x8x18 front and 29x18x20 rear tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by HVACMAN View Post
    Never mind.... It was waiting for me when I got home from work.

    The tracking number was there or the parts were there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDSapp View Post
    The tracking number was there or the parts were there?
    The parts. Thanks Tim.
    33 Hot Rod Stage 1 delivered on 4/27/2017, Stage 2 delivered on 9/21/2018
    LS3 376/480, 4L70E, Electric PS, Classic Auto Air, Lokar electronic sport shifter,
    Ford 8.8 w 3.73 w 4 link, Billet Specialty Legend Series MAG wheels and Mickey Thompson
    Sportsman S/R 26x8x18 front and 29x18x20 rear tires

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    I have still been working on the Hot Rod but have not updated the thread recently. It seems that I get a few steps forward and then have to take even more steps back.

    The brackets and pulleys I bought for putting the accessories on the front of the engine are just not working out. They either don't line up or I can't find the correct part. So I started looking into the accessory package for the 350 SBC. When measuring I found that I was going to have to move the engine back a half inch so the pulleys can clear the steering rack. So last week I ended up pulling the engine and transmission once again. I had actually not though about how far along I was. It took quite a while to disconnect everything and get it ready to be pulled.




    This at least gave me an easier time in drilling and riveting in the firewall and foot box panels. I will also put the steering linkage and everything back together before the engine goes back in.




    Since I had the exhaust disconnected from the headers I pulled it as well. This way it will be easier to wrap the exhaust pipes and mufflers. I got the muffler and pipe wraps for Christmas so I was going to have to pull it anyway.

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    You might check CVF Racing. That's where I got mine. They were very reasonable and excellent quality.
    33 Hot Rod Stage 1 delivered on 4/27/2017, Stage 2 delivered on 9/21/2018
    LS3 376/480, 4L70E, Electric PS, Classic Auto Air, Lokar electronic sport shifter,
    Ford 8.8 w 3.73 w 4 link, Billet Specialty Legend Series MAG wheels and Mickey Thompson
    Sportsman S/R 26x8x18 front and 29x18x20 rear tires

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    Happy Happy Joy Joy! FedEx made a delivery today.







    I added the coke can to give some scale.






    I was not sure what was going to show through once mounted but I am happy with how it looks.





    I am happy with the fat and skinny look with the size difference.





    Now I have a new problem! One that I have never had before. The lug nuts fits down in a "tunnel". They are so narrow that I can't get a socket down onto the lug nuts to tighten them. I could probably buy a thin wall socket to get them in, but I would be worried about getting them tourqued. Any one have any ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDSapp View Post
    Happy Happy Joy Joy! FedEx made a delivery today.



    Now I have a new problem! One that I have never had before. The lug nuts fits down in a "tunnel". They are so narrow that I can't get a socket down onto the lug nuts to tighten them. I could probably buy a thin wall socket to get them in, but I would be worried about getting them torqued. Any one have any ideas?
    I used a splined nut on my wheels, did two things, looks good, easy to install and hard to steal wheels! Well, that's three, your local wheel place should have them.
    20181129_200029.jpg 20180504_140900.jpg my tire wheel supplier also gave me the socket that goes with it when I got the nuts.
    Also, you should look into hidden valve stems!
    20180407_132403.jpg this is with the valve stem on
    20180504_140855.jpg valve stem remove and cover on (look at the bottom portion of the rim)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJT '33 View Post
    I used a splined nut on my wheels, did two things, looks good, easy to install and hard to steal wheels! Well, that's three, your local wheel place should have them.
    20181129_200029.jpg 20180504_140900.jpg my tire wheel supplier also gave me the socket that goes with it when I got the nuts.
    Also, you should look into hidden valve stems!
    20180407_132403.jpg this is with the valve stem on
    20180504_140855.jpg valve stem remove and cover on (look at the bottom portion of the rim)
    Thanks for that info. I will look into them.

    As for the valve stem... AR puts them on the back of the wheel. Just about can't see them at all.
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    Thin wall lug nut sockets
    See Amazon

    I believe HF has a nice set too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TxMike64 View Post
    Thin wall lug nut sockets
    See Amazon

    I believe HF has a nice set too.

    Thanks for that link. From that page I was able to find a singe socket that fits and ordered it. Sadly since it will only be used on the Hot Rod I have to add it to the budget. At least it was only $11.50.
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    I call BS. I have to buy a new socket every time I need to do something

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDSapp View Post
    Happy Happy Joy Joy! FedEx made a delivery today.







    I added the coke can to give some scale.






    I was not sure what was going to show through once mounted but I am happy with how it looks.





    I am happy with the fat and skinny look with the size difference.





    Now I have a new problem! One that I have never had before. The lug nuts fits down in a "tunnel". They are so narrow that I can't get a socket down onto the lug nuts to tighten them. I could probably buy a thin wall socket to get them in, but I would be worried about getting them tourqued. Any one have any ideas?
    Congratulations Tim they look awesome!! Mine came with a thin wall socket. I checked and it fits down in the "tunnel" just like it is supposed to. So you should be ok to torque with it.
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    33 Hot Rod Stage 1 delivered on 4/27/2017, Stage 2 delivered on 9/21/2018
    LS3 376/480, 4L70E, Electric PS, Classic Auto Air, Lokar electronic sport shifter,
    Ford 8.8 w 3.73 w 4 link, Billet Specialty Legend Series MAG wheels and Mickey Thompson
    Sportsman S/R 26x8x18 front and 29x18x20 rear tires

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    Wow...those are some WAW! They are going to look great!
    33' Hot Rod Coupe/Roadster, Fendered, Ford 302, 350hp, EFI, AOD, 4-Link, Double Adjustable Koni Coilovers, Split Rear Exhaust, Electric Power Steering, AC/Heat/Defrost, Moser 8.8"-3.55, Willwood Front/Rear Brakes, 18" x 8" Fronts/20" x 10" Rears, Ordered: 1.26.17, Arrived: 3.29.17, First Start: 7.2.18, Go Cart: 11.4.18 Paint/Body: 2.23.19

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    Went to Discount Tire over the weekend to have the tires mounted and balanced. The manager really did not want to do them for fear that something would happen to the wheels and he would have to replace them. But in the end he charged me more and I got them done. Cost me $250.00 to get them done but they were good and quick.

    Funniest part was they were apparently the biggest tires that anyone had brought in. At one time out of the eight or so guys working there, six of them were working on my wheels.



    One group of guys were working together to try and get them on the machine. Turns out the machine they had it on was too small and they had to move them to a bigger one.





    In the end though they got them mounted.





    Everything came out balanced as well.





    All of this was also supervised by by best helper...



    She would not stop watching what they were doing. When the first guy came and took the wheel she started telling on him. "Grandpa, they are taking your wheels..."
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    Those look great and the helper is a cutie.
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    Work is still going. I had actually not worked on the car it'self in a while but after reading "I almost gave up" I went out and worked on the car last night after work. As I posted last time I pulled the motor one again to get a few things done. Well last night I got it back in, put the carb and breather back on, put she shifter back on and then put the tires on the car and made it a roller for the first time. It only took a year and a half to get it to a roller. But that was really due to waiting to know exactly which tires and wheels I wanted.








    So here is the question for everybody. I put the wheels on and set it on the ground. The body is just sitting on frame and not bolted on, but the measurement from the dash to the rear end is right where it should be so I am thinking that the back of the body is sitting where it should be. That put the body about a half inch from the top of the wheel. I jacked the rear end up and took the weight off the shocks and cranked the spanners up about an inch and a half more. (From the bottom of the shock threads to the top of the spanner (Bottom of the spring) I have three and a half inches. That put the body about an inch and a half from the top of the tire.

    How much room do I need between the top of the tire and the body? I don't want to rub during bumps but the suspension is so stiff now I am not sure how much it will be moving. I stood on the back of the frame and tried to bounce and it did not move much at all.


    I have the following

    Adjustable Control Arms with the rear end moved back to clear the wheel well on the front.
    QA1 Shocks with the QA1 Springs from Dan Ruth. I can't remember what he said the springs were rated at, but I will be shooting him an email asking.

    The tires and wheels come to 29" tall.





    If you are interested I have put this post on my build site but have a few extra photos. You can check it out here.

    http://hotrod.sapp-family.com/2019/0...have-a-roller/
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    I do not think there is that much travel in the suspension but I do not know for sure. Those tires are directional, do you have them mounted right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrp View Post
    I do not think there is that much travel in the suspension but I do not know for sure. Those tires are directional, do you have them mounted right?

    I hope its right... All four of them are mounted that way.
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    I don't believe they are on correct. The tire should channel water outward when the car moves in a forward direction. The way these are mounted the water would be channeled to the middle of the tire So to correct that, I believe all you have to do is swap the lefts with the rights....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FF33rod View Post
    I don't believe they are on correct. The tire should channel water outward when the car moves in a forward direction. The way these are mounted the water would be channeled to the middle of the tire

    Yeah I need to change the sides all the tires are on. I just did not pay attention to that when I was putting them on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDSapp View Post
    Yeah I need to change the sides all the tires are on. I just did not pay attention to that when I was putting them on.
    They look correct to me, but there should be a directional arrow on each tire.
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    Ford 8.8 w 3.73 w 4 link, Billet Specialty Legend Series MAG wheels and Mickey Thompson
    Sportsman S/R 26x8x18 front and 29x18x20 rear tires

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    They look awesome, its no big deal to reverse them on the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrp View Post
    They look awesome, its no big deal to reverse them on the car.
    It's not... Except getting the locking lug on and off is a bit more of a pain since they are so deep. I changed the front wheels last night since I had to get the front of the car up on stands to get some work done. Mostly what I did last night though was to clean up my work space. I can't find a nut that I need to get the steering column in so I started cleaning things up while looking for it.
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    LoL I hate that worse than anything else. I built my car in three years. That is about 2 hours worth of work and 2 years 11 months and 29.75 days looking for parts.

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    Work Continues!


    So over this last week I started on the fabled doors. So far, they are not as bad as I expected. After watching a couple YouTube videos I got to work on getting the hinge holes cut. I got them marked and then started to cut them out. It was the first cuts on the body so I wanted to make sure they were done right. You know how it goes, measure four times, cut once.





    Got a little carried away in a couple spots with the dremal. May have to buy some of the covers that someone sells on here.



    However, the hinge fit and I was able to mark and cut out the lower holes as well.




    Once I got them cut out I started to cut the doors down to fit into the door jam. I was thinking that my doors were not too far off because they were taped to the body when it was delivered. I did not remember them being so far out from the body. Ummm... yeah, I was wrong!




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    Yesterday I moved outside because I created way too much fiberglass dust in the garage. Biggest problem is the weather. It's cold outside!

    Earlier in the week I had my fans running. This weekend and yesterday I was bundled up and had my heater running.



    Biggest problem I have had doing this so far is the doors are so light that you can't put any weight onto them or they will slide off the table. I ended up having to tape them to the table.



    I have been sanding the doors down to the mold line, or at least close to it. Then I test fit and do more of the door. I am almost done with the first door. But my wife called me in for dinner and when that was over it was too dark to do anymore.





    Last edited by TDSapp; 02-19-2019 at 12:17 PM.
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    Yeah three months without an update... Shame on me. But honestly I have not really done that much on the car since the last post. So much rain has kept me from working outside as much as I wanted to. I also had to slow down on the spending because SWMBO wanted to get some new landscaping for the front of the house. Considering how much I have spent on the Hot Rod I figured I had to let her spend some next.


    But once the Landscaping was done I was able to make one of the last large purchases. The accessories on front of the motor. I bought the V-Belt pulley drive system by Eddie Motorsports. (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ems-ms107-91cl) I wanted this one for two reasons... One, the V-Belts seem to be more old school which is what I am trying to do with this car. Second, it is anywhere from $900 to $1,200 cheaper than the single belt system. It cost $1,220.00 and included the alternator, Sanden SD-7 Compressor, the water pump, all the brackets and pulleys. It also puts everything in front of the motor and lower than the tops of the valve covers. Ordered it a week and a half ago and UPS dropped off a present for me last week.

    First thing I ran into was having to move the motor back. I ran to the local hardware store and bought some new grade 8 bolts and spacers. Got the motor on the hoist and moved it back about 3/4 of an inch. That gives me about 1/4 inch clearance from the steering rack.

    After that I started putting all the parts from the kit.







    Go the belts on and now need to run the wires back to everything.




    On another note... Ended up getting a new garage mascot. I had just turned around towards the bench and saw some weird movement. This Dove was stunned or something because he did not fight very much when I picked him up. Once I was holding him he did not struggle at all.




    I set him on the grill expecting him to fly off but he just sat there.





    I ended up picking him up again and putting him in a tree in the back yard. He was still there about 15 minutes later, but when I checked on him after an hour he was not in the tree and no where in the yard.


    Tim
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    Tim, you probably already have an answer for the tire to body clearance but if I remember its in the 2.5" range. I had to run the rear shock spring collars way up. I have the rear fenders on and so far no rubbing issues.

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    Actually I exchanged some email with FFR and they said that an inch and a half would be fine. I am guessing that with how stiff the suspension is on the Hot Rods there is not much movement.


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    I appreciate your thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luinidas View Post
    I appreciate your thread!

    I glad it has helped. That is why I keep posting here. I also have everything on my web site to include a budget where I have tracked everything I have spent. There is a link to it in my signature.
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