Miller Customs

Visit our community sponsor

Thanks Thanks:  13
Likes Likes:  46
Page 5 of 5 FirstFirst ... 345
Results 161 to 186 of 186

Thread: Black&Copper - 33 Hot Rod #1028

  1. #161
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    OK, this one is for those that have a hard top and also a bolt on windshield. I just fit and marked the hard top, then slid it back. Took my windshield and placed it so it fit well and had the bottom sitting as flush as possible and had the 31" measurement at its tips to have the right slope. If you look at the pictures, you can see both the hard top and windshield lines up, however, the fronts are about a 1/4" different.
    20180922_194858.jpg 20180922_194027.jpg
    As well the outboard holes of the windshield are basically outside of the front edge of the hard top. When I spoke with Tony Z in Syracuse he said not to use the four outside attachments, not crazy about that. The sides of the hardtop are lined up with the door joints real nice.
    20180922_194846.jpg 20180922_193956.jpg 20180922_193928.jpg
    After consulting with some great build friends and putting out a call for opinions to those who may have done this the end result for the attachment is that the front windshield will have five holes securing it. I will need to add a set of holes to each end of the windshield as I will not be using the two outboard ones on the end. For the hard top, I will have 6 in the front set at 6" apart (first set offset 3" off the CL of the car) and the standard 5 in the rear as in the assembly guide.
    20180926_201305.jpg 20180926_201256.jpg 20180926_201252.jpg 20180926_215109.jpg 20180926_215117.jpg

  2. Thanks HVACMAN thanked for this post
    Likes HVACMAN, erlihemi liked this post
  3. #162

    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Yucaipa, CA
    Posts
    74
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thx for showing this step in detail. I am only one week into my 33' build but this step you are doing now is already one of the million or so details on my mind. I like they way you are getting this done and I know your example will be a valuable source for my project.... When I get there. Goof job.

  4. Likes AJT '33 liked this post
  5. #163
    PLATNUM Supporting Member
    wallace18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Alachua, Florida
    Posts
    4,103
    Post Thanks / Like
    What I did was mount the hardtop and draw an outline around the front inside and outside. Then I mounted the windshield using the area marked. This worked for me on 2-33 builds. Since you most likely never buy a convertible top for it this works.

  6. Likes AJT '33 liked this post
  7. #164
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quick update as most of the work I have been doing is sanding... Regardless I can see the end is near and once my body and doors get their Polyester Primer, I will be re-assembling everything and putting the whole car together will all lights, switches, panels etc... Then once that's all done I'll get my pre-inspection by the local police force to get approved by them (they make sure there are no stolen parts on the car, then I tear it all apart and send it off to the final primer, more sanding, then paint. Looking forward to having real final painted parts together!!!
    20180930_155515.jpg 20180930_151018.jpg 20180929_173454.jpg
    However she will be naked again for a while!
    20180929_173502.jpg
    Last edited by AJT '33; 10-02-2018 at 10:26 AM. Reason: spelling

  8. #165
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    Well the sanding continues... have been looking at a spray can alternative to having Line-X or Rhino liner applied to certain areas of the cars body and fenders. Have found a commercial gravel guard, it applies easily enough, paintable, however it is not solvent resistant so i fear that anything like oil, gas or even coolant will dissolve it and it will look like crap. Looking for anything others may have used that worked very well and is easily applied, ay suggestions?? I currently have Dominion Sure Seal Gravel Guard.

  9. #166
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    671
    Post Thanks / Like
    I'm just thinking out loud here and have not seen much commentary one way or the other. However, I notice that the kick panel on both sides is fairly bereft of a lot of obstruction between the heat put off by the headers and the inner floor of the foot pans. I have even heard a few comments concerning the heat making its way up through the heat panel. I used Tim Whitteaker's kick panels to cover the unsightly opening. I wondered if for heat, a person were to put a vent that could be opened and closed on the kick panel to direct the heat to the floor pan in cold weather? You could put the vent in either the kick panel area or forward of it where the4 current aluminum comes up. A little creativity with insulation and a fan/blower of sorts and who knows. I think that might be a better Texas-Lousiana solution than the Northwest.

    IMG_0339 copy.jpgInterior P1010004.JPG
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by wrp; 10-06-2018 at 08:22 PM.

  10. #167
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    So between sanding, sanding and more sanding... I have figured out a method of mounting the front of the hardtop using knurled barbed inserts with 1/4-20 wing screws from Spaenur (#565-801 and be will be using the same ones for the rear, probably just longer). After a bunch of research, I found found the knurled nuts (from Spaenur #628-512) which are made to be embedded into various materials such as fiberglass. As well I found an adhesive (Loctite AA H800) that can bond metal and fiberglass together with a very high bond strength (expensive but you don't need much in reality).
    So the first step was to align and make sure the location of the hardtop and the windshield would work together when switched out. Once located and aligned I marked and drilled the holes in the front and rear. In the rear I used the Rivnuts with oversized washers that had a hole size smaller than the rivnut so I could drill out the washer to fit exactly the hole required for the Rivnuts and picked up a slightly longer grip size of 1/4-20 Rivnut. The fron was more work as I marked and drilled not only the body but after I marked the front of the hard top I drilled the holes for the knurled bard inserts to the same size as the 1/4-20 Rivnuts. You will see from the pictures the process I used.
    20181005_193322.jpg 20181005_193410.jpg 20181005_193421.jpg 20181005_193438.jpg 20181005_193449.jpg
    To ensure the alignment of the inserts to the window, I placed a stainless washer to hold the insert square to the bolt and hardtop. When the adhesive was set and before it hardened, I turned out the bolt so it would not bond to the adhesive in the cavity. One thing that did happen is that the stainless washer ended bonding to the surface anyhow so I simply just left it there. Once cured i was pleasantly surprised as to how much strength this ended up really having and even though i have way more than enough attachment points, I don't expect to use them all unless there is a seal issue and even then this is way more than strong enough.
    20181005_193505.jpg 20181006_202714.jpg This is my improvised plunger setup for the adhesive, better than spending $80 on the applicator gun
    20181006_203659.jpg 20181006_203703.jpg 20181006_213311.jpg
    Last edited by AJT '33; 10-18-2018 at 02:49 PM.

  11. Likes erlihemi, wrp, Bgardner liked this post
  12. #168
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    Well still moving forward, got the body and doors back on last night and one of my Rivnuts that I was unsure about loosened up and is turning in loose, hate that. Now i got to decide before I remove the body if I'm going to try and salvage it or simply abandon it all together. Its not critical as it for the door sills however i'll need to take a closer look and decide what I want to do. Lesson learned... don't us the holes for the temporary fasteners to ship the body on the car for Rivnuts!
    20181024_44747956_2079446115701977_4596493812863336448_n.jpg 20181023_200829.jpg 20181023_200928.jpg 20181023_200745.jpg 20181021_125822.jpg
    Next steps are to completely assemble and fit everything including all electrical, heater, power windows, interior fit up and mock up with gauges, all hardware, basically complete. Then have it all sanded and faired in a final format, then completely tear it down cataloging every part, but bolt washer etc... Then I will be applying the final primers, base coats and clears to let it cure while I go ahead and finish paint all the miscellaneous hardware that needs it to then reassemble the whole thing once and for all!!!

  13. Likes FF33rod, wrp liked this post
  14. #169
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    North Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts
    159
    Post Thanks / Like
    Must feel good seeing it come together. Thanks for the tip on the holes - noted so that I can pursue my own set of mistakes

  15. Likes AJT '33, duff33 liked this post
  16. #170
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    Finally at a point where I need to decide if I stay with shaved door handles and remote door opener/unlock such as this: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aul-311810/overview/ from Autoloc or installaing the door handles supplied with the kit? Tough decision as I am still not sure how to go about installing a secondary emergency unlock if there is no power or if the switch does not work anymore. Other than fitting and installing what I have left, this is the only thing that's giving me heartaches. I am still looking for a nice interior door latch handle that looks good and is easy to install, it seems like it always resets back to the same handles when searching on the net, not much variety out there it seems.
    Last edited by AJT '33; 11-07-2018 at 11:43 AM.

  17. #171
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    Haven't posted in weeks as I took a break and then started to assemble the entire car working in all the details needed to complete the last assembly before disassembly and paint early in the new year. Finally got the detailing completed for the design of the stick shift, in the end I will custom make the Spur Gears so I ended up changing the look a bit. I am happy with the end result and now understand even better how its all in the details!!
    33HR Stick Shift Gear Assy - Final Render with Gears cropped.jpg
    Now to more of these little detail works!!!

  18. Likes HVACMAN liked this post
  19. #172
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    So finally jumped in and started the process of cutting in the power window slot in the door top. Once we measured it all up I noticed the rear of the slot is right at the inside of the door leaving no room for the actual window. As well I measured the width of the window is 32" and the width of the hard top is 32" on the passenger side and 32-3/16" on the drivers side. So my dilemma is if I should get the window sanded down about an eight on each side? It will be interesting to see how much adjusting will be needed. Any suggestions or observations?
    20181208_201952.jpg 20181208_201942.jpg 20181208_201031.jpg 20181208_201025.jpg 20181208_201016.jpg 20181208_201010.jpg

  20. #173
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    671
    Post Thanks / Like
    I paid guys that are much smarter than me to make mine work. They dialed mine in pretty effectively.


  21. Likes AJT '33, JimLev liked this post
  22. #174
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    I would like to wish everyone a…

    VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!

    Xmas Santa!.jpg

  23. Thanks FF33rod, wrp thanked for this post
    Likes wrp, JimLev liked this post
  24. #175
    Senior Member CVOBill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Vermilion, OH
    Posts
    370
    Post Thanks / Like
    Merry Christmas Andreas
    CVOBill
    MK2 #???? Delivered 11/2002, Finished and Titled 6/2003 5.0, T-5, 4-Link, Sold 3/2005
    Hot Rod #304 purchased 5/28/2017 from original owner Unassembled . Titled and plated 8/24/2017 Coyote,
    TKO, 3-Link, Heat, A/C, Electric Power Steering, Convertible top
    MK4 Picking up 1/19/19 306 Blueprint, T-5, 4-Link, 17" Wheels, Gas-N Pipes, Heater

  25. Thanks AJT '33 thanked for this post
    Likes AJT '33, wrp liked this post
  26. #176
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    Progress on those small details that will hopefully make the car stand out and keeping it simple.
    20181222_120908.jpg 20181222_120928.jpg
    And it makes the latch work smoothly!

  27. #177
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    122
    Post Thanks / Like
    Wow, I am about to go install what looks like the exact same handles

  28. Likes AJT '33 liked this post
  29. #178
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    North Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts
    159
    Post Thanks / Like
    isn't this like 2 women wearing the same dress to a party? just joking. They look great. So this gives a direct mechanical connection to the latch instead of a cable?

  30. Likes AJT '33 liked this post
  31. #179
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by FF33rod View Post
    isn't this like 2 women wearing the same dress to a party? just joking. They look great. So this gives a direct mechanical connection to the latch instead of a cable?
    Yes, mechanical inside where the FFR in is and shaved on the outside so a cable via a remote. Will have independent emergency unlock hidden on the car as well.

  32. Likes FF33rod liked this post
  33. #180
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    Lined up and getting ready to drill the guage cluster that sits in my dash panel.
    20181222_125529.jpg 20181222_125533.jpg 20181222_151449.jpg

  34. Likes wrp liked this post
  35. #181

    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Location
    Placitas, NM
    Posts
    432
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by AJT '33 View Post
    I would like to wish everyone a…

    VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!

    Xmas Santa!.jpg
    Same back to you and all the others on the forum.

    pop-x750_w.jpeg
    '33 Hotrod, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
    LS3 w/4L65e, Lokar shifter, Electric PS, Vintage AC/Heat/Def, 8.8" 3.55
    TorqThrust II Wheels w/Toyo Proxy T1 Sport Tires, F 245/45ZR17 R 295/35ZR18

  36. #182
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    122
    Post Thanks / Like
    Well the door handles are the same thing only different.Dec2018x2 002.JPGDec2018x2 003.JPG

    Everyone have a great Christmas and a healthy and happy New Year !!! And thanks for all the help through the years

  37. Likes AJT '33 liked this post
  38. #183
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    Well the last piece of fiberglass is fitted and installed. Minor bit of fiberglassing and then full assembly and the final primer prep.
    20181227_151250.jpg 20181227_151303.jpg

  39. Likes wrp liked this post
  40. #184
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    Lots and lots of fitting.... One major centerpiece was fitted and then removed so it doesn't get any damage (already has a very small nick in it). Time to finish the power windows now that I have new glass to install and then wiring back to the fuse box. Then switches and more fabrication to accommodate anything required.
    20181227_184109.jpg

    Need to complete the custom tranny cover and decide switch locations as well as where I will be cladding areas in copper plate.

  41. #185
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Posts
    671
    Post Thanks / Like
    Love the centerpiece

  42. #186
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec, canada
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by wrp View Post
    Love the centerpiece
    Hey Bill, yours was the inspiration!!

  43. Thanks wrp thanked for this post
    Likes wrp liked this post
Page 5 of 5 FirstFirst ... 345

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Brown County Customs

Visit our community sponsor