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    No problem Nevin, the forum is here so we can all help each other.
    I'll be bugging others soon about resin and fiberglassing.
    '33 Hotrod, #1047, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
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    Finally got back into the garage after weeks of vacation travel.
    After mulling over how I was going to mount the gauges I bought some engine turned aluminum from Speedway.
    The smaller Autometer gauges require a 2 1/16" hole, not a common size at any of the local stores. Had to order it on line.
    Cutting the holes was a snap but I do have a question about trimming the panel. I don't have a band saw.
    I could do it with a hand held Skil saw and then smooth the edges with a file.
    The top will slope down like the FFR template with the four corners rounded.
    Any one have a better method?

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    I'm not happy with the marine vinyl I used to cover my console. The 3M adhesive isn't holding well.
    I'm going to pull off the vinyl, use sheet metal over the plywood, then cover it with faux carbon fiber.
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    What gauge? Body saw?? Saber saw??
    33 Hot Rod Stage 1 delivered on 4/27/2017, Stage 2 delivered on 9/21/2018
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    Check this out Jim. It is what I will put on my dash. https://www.amazon.com/VViViD-Epoxy-...69491104&psc=1
    33 Hot Rod Stage 1 delivered on 4/27/2017, Stage 2 delivered on 9/21/2018
    LS3 376/480, 4L70E, Electric PS, Classic Auto Air, Lokar electronic sport shifter,
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    Sportsman S/R 26x8x18 front and 29x18x20 rear tires

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    I do have a saber (skil) saw.
    This is what I bought to cover the console. It came today. I was thinking about using in on the dash too.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I did look at the one you ordered. I was thinking the silver would give me a little contrast from the black interior.
    '33 Hotrod, #1047, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
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    Jim, a Skill saw designed for wood runs too fast for aluminum and will usually gum up the blade. I have a Milwaukee 8" circular saw designed for cutting steel and aluminum but these are way too pricey unless you use them a lot. A less expensive option is an orbital jig saw such as this one: https://www.rockler.com/dewalt-dw331...yABEgKylPD_BwE

    Set the orbital feed to max, use a course tooth blade and lower speed. For straight cuts I use a guide.
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    NAZ, thanks for the blade and speed info.
    My Skil saw is variable speed and looks very similar to that DeWalt, just not as fancy.
    It was given to me....friend got it for a present and didn't want it.
    https://www.lowes.com/pd/SKIL-6-Amp-...saw/1000625047
    I was using a fine tooth blade when I cut the slot for the Vintage Air insert. I didn't have to worry too much about making the cut perfect as the flange hides the cut.
    Last edited by JimLev; 08-02-2019 at 03:04 PM. Reason: Added more
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    My bad, when I hear Skill Saw I think circular saw. Your Skill jig saw should work great.
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    No Problem NAZ.
    Just finished cutting it, looks good. Still need holes for the ignition, headlight switches, LED directional indicators, and hi-beams.
    Now to cut a big hole in the dash to mount the gauges in.

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    I'm wiring in an adjustable PWM fan speed controller to have the fan run at ~50% all the time instead of on/off.
    Need to blow that heat out all the time.
    The engine fan will still function via the ECU and override the PWM to run the fan at 100% speed if needed.
    Last edited by JimLev; 08-02-2019 at 05:07 PM. Reason: Typo
    '33 Hotrod, #1047, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
    LS3 w/4L65e, Lokar shifter, Electric PS, Vintage AC/Heat/Def, 8.8" 3.55
    TorqThrust II Wheels w/Toyo Proxy T1 Sport Tires, F 245/45ZR17 R 295/35ZR18

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    Very well done Jim. It looks fantastic.
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    Spent a few hours in the garage to work on the gauges. I didn't do the greatest job cutting out the dash but those parts won't show.
    Now I need to put all the gauge wires back on.
    I mounted some relays and the speed controller for the radiator fan behind the dash, need to wire them up too.

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    LS3 w/4L65e, Lokar shifter, Electric PS, Vintage AC/Heat/Def, 8.8" 3.55
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    Got the marine vinyl pulled off the console plywood, then covered it with 26 gauge sheet metal so I'd have a smooth surface for the (faux) carbon fiber....looks more like contact paper, but looks better than the marine vinyl.
    I also had a little help from my granddaughter, she was practicing her driving to the grocery store, so she tells me.

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    Had to make it in 2 sections and then connect them.
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    Nice work!
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    Looks great!! whatcha got on all those switches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FF33rod View Post
    Looks great!! whatcha got on all those switches?
    The 4L65e has functions that you can customize with the software that came with it, shift points, shift pressure, etc. A/B shift programs, cancel overdrive, dyno mode, that's 3 of the switches.
    Back up lights
    Hi beams
    Wiper on/off
    Washer pump
    Dim radio/GPS display
    Electric steering on/off
    interior lights
    2 spare switches

    heated seats
    power windows.
    USB outlet
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    Are you an electrical engineer?
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    I was until I switched into sales/management back in '97.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLev View Post
    I was until I switched into sales/management back in '97.
    Sales & Marketing - the dark side....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FF33rod View Post
    Sales & Marketing - the dark side....
    LOL, but I still went out in the field to help out with electrical/mechanical equipment issues or to design fixes for equipment the factory built that didn't quite work as designed.
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    I was looking for info on my LS3, mainly the oil temp and level sensor that is on the side of the oil pan.
    I bought an Autometer oil temp gauge that came with its own sensor but I'd have to drill and tap the pan.
    With the pan full of oil I wanted to use the sensor that is in the pan.
    So in my search I found this document that has a lot of good info on a variety of GM 2011 and newer V8's, L96, LS3, LSA, and LS9.
    http://www.whitestonelakes.com/docum...e%20Manual.pdf
    Last edited by JimLev; 08-19-2019 at 10:58 PM.
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    A while ago I picked up an LS tranny oil cooler off a GMC at the local junkyard for cheap.
    I cleaned it up and now need to find someplace to mount it. Not enough room behind the radiator fan.
    Might need to mount it horizontal and install a fan on it.

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    I mounted mine in front of the radiator on my GTO

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    WRP, only if I had that much room.
    After messing around with where to put the tranny cooler for way too long yesterday I mounted it to the lower frame rail.
    It's position for cooling is not optimum but it will do more that if it wasn't used.
    Today I made up the AN6 lines and connected it.

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    Last edited by JimLev; 09-05-2019 at 06:01 PM. Reason: Typo
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    Was your oil temperature running too high?
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    Looks like you even have room for a fan on that cooler. I mounted mine next to the starter (only place I could find) and no room for a fan or even a scoop. I ended up fabricating a spoiler to create a negative pressure on one side of the cooler, therefore, inducing at least some flow across the plates. Seems to work. With a 5000 RPM stall speed the converter generates a lot of heat.

    I added a photo of my trans fluid heat exchanger and the spoiler. Doesn't take much to create negative pressure across the heat exchanger. A scoop would be even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HVACMAN View Post
    Was your oil temperature running too high?
    Don't really know yet, haven't driven it more than 4 miles. With the summer temps in the high 90º I'm just being proactive.
    I do have a 3200 RPM stall speed converter which will generate a little more heat than if I used the original converter.

    NAZ, yes a scoop over the top of the cooler should work out just fine. Thanks for the suggestion. It should be able to catch air from the radiator fan.
    Thanks for adding that pic. I was hoping to mount mine on the pass side but with the Vintage Air those lines and AC parts took up all of that space.
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    Hope this intake works OK with two 4" 90° elbows. This was the easiest way to get the air filter to be inside the engine side covers.
    I'll take it for a spin tomorrow morning to test it out.

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    Ironicallly one of the most challenging parts of the go kart was the hoses and intake. I am running a short afe 4” filter with the recommended 3“ of straight on either side of the MAF. Yours like fine to me.
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    The problem is hot air intake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1932 View Post
    The problem is hot air intake!
    Correct, but there is no other place to put it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sethmark View Post
    Ironicallly one of the most challenging parts of the go kart was the hoses and intake. I am running a short afe 4” filter with the recommended 3“ of straight on either side of the MAF. Yours like fine to me.
    ^___Yes it is. Your using the 32 grill so you have a little bit more room.

    With my revised intake plumbing job the engine will start and then die in 2-3 seconds. I tried starting it 5-6 times, same results.
    Next I put the intake back to the way I initially had it, it starts up and runs fine.
    Digging thru the GM engine info it says the MAF sensor has to be mounted horizontally and between the 9 to 3 o'clock position. MAF has to be 10" from the throttle body.
    So back to the drawing board to see how I can get the filter to be inside the side covers. I might have to buy a shorter filter.
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    Jim, I don’t know if this helps, but this is how I solve the problem.
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    Thanks Seth, that might work. Is that a Spectre 45º or 60º elbow?
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    Yessir. For a kit I knew I was going to cut up, the price was right. The silicone connections are too flimsy for my taste, hence the reinforcement off the frame.
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    Seth, from your pic I got an idea how to do it with the parts I had already purchased.
    Don't know why I didn't think of doing it this way before, guess I was just hung up on having the filter mounted horizontally.

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    That looks like a winner to me. Tucks inside the side panels and gets away from radiator heat.
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    I'll build a shield on one side to help keep some of the heat away from the filter.
    I'm now working on a duct with a fan for the tranny oil cooler.
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    This is how I ended up with mine. As shown I can get my side panels on without interference.
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    I have had my tuning guy in and he only needed to make a minor adjustment to dial it in and we will make another one once we put it on the dyno in a few months.
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    I was hoping to do something like that but it wasn't possible with the top water pump hose up so high.
    Looks like your almost done and will be driving it soon.
    '33 Hotrod, #1047, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
    LS3 w/4L65e, Lokar shifter, Electric PS, Vintage AC/Heat/Def, 8.8" 3.55
    TorqThrust II Wheels w/Toyo Proxy T1 Sport Tires, F 245/45ZR17 R 295/35ZR18

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    Jim,
    I’ve been lurking on your build thread for months - it’s an inspiration. I’m to the point where I’m starting the electrical. This seems like a simple question but, I’m trying to decide how to get wires from the dash area to the rear of the car. The gen 2 manual doesn’t help and I’m struggling to find pics on the threads. I’d prefer not to run exposed along the bottom of the cockpit but... So, did you route thru the drive shaft tunnel (that seems risky) or did you dip under the car at the rear of the trans cover.?

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