Rodney Archer's build thread

[RodneyArcher]

Hey everyone, I have been lurking around here for a while and have spent hours reading through the build logs. I have some quick questions about placing my order. I think I have missed the year end sale (50% off options if over $5000) but was wondering if there are any other sales coming up. I thought once or twice a year they have a sale?

Also, what is the typical time frame from time of order to ready to ship? I understand the shipping is a variable especially with the weather and that I am in California.

Thanks in advance!

[FLPBFoot]

Rodney,

Was just at the factory this past Thursday. I think the sale runs till Dec 31. I placed my order in person with Dan and got a $5,090 discount. I think if you call them (not sure if they are around on Saturday) or place an order on the website I bet you can still get the discount.

Dave from Marketing said they are running about 6 to 8 weeks on build time. This discount was a big success and they have a bunch of orders to fill. Our order is scheduled to be ready in Mid-March but that is due to us saying we are in no hurry and they agreed to delay slightly until we can get out there to pick it up.

Good Luck

Steve

[RodneyArcher]

Thanks for the info Steve and congrats on the order and upcoming build!

I tried calling them today and it seems like they are closed. I guess I can place the order online and adjust as needed. I have some questions on what options I want / need.

[RodneyArcher]

Here is what is on my build sheet so far...

MK4 Complete Kit, Powder Coated Chassis, Headers 5.0 Coyote Stainless 4 Port Full Length Headers, Body Cutouts, Leather Seats, IRS,Coyote Power Steering, GPS Gauges, 18” wheels/tires, assembled louvers, battery cut-off switch, front & rear sway bars, drivers side and passenger side chrome roll bars with gromets, Koni double adjustable coil overs, wind wings, sun visors, floor mats, center dash support, 14" leather steering wheel, double adjustable IRS front and rear shocks, IRS Center section, spindles and hubs, 12.88" Willwood front and rear brake kit, and the Coyote installation kit.

I am struggling with what to eliminate from the options (if anything) and what I should be getting from others (Forte, Breeze, etc.)

Thank again for all the support and Happy New Years!

[edwardb]

You've configured a highly optioned build there! If you're trying to get in on the sale, which is an excellent one and seems that you still have time, go for it. You're not locked in. You can change aspects of it up until the actual production time. I've called several times to make changes on orders I've placed, apologizing each time, and they said don't worry about it. Happens all the time. There are other sources for some of the things on your list, e.g. power steering, shocks, brakes, IRS center section/spindles/hubs. But the core of what you have there is going to be from Factory Five.

[RodneyArcher]

Thanks edwardb, do you think there will be other sales coming soon?

[edwardb]

Thanks edwardb, do you think there will be other sales coming soon?

Sorry, I have absolutely no idea. And neither would anyone else outside of Factory Five. As already mentioned, they typically have a couple a year. But the exact details, timing, etc. aren't public knowledge until they're announced.

[RodneyArcher]

Paul,

Any chance you would be willing to share your contacts for the Gen 3 Coyote? I am looking at doing the same set up that you are doing in your Coupe (if the trans will fit in the roadster).

Thanks!

[edwardb]

Paul,

Any chance you would be willing to share your contacts for the Gen 3 Coyote? I am looking at doing the same set up that you are doing in your Coupe (if the trans will fit in the roadster).

Thanks!

My understanding is the T56 will fit in the Roadster with IRS, which you listed in your plan. Might be a little tight, specifically mainly for the e-brake (?) but I don't know for sure. As I recall, you may have to slightly modify the transmission mount frame. The Coupe appears to have a little more room in the transmission tunnel, the e-brake is on the top vs. on the side, and the mount was designed to also include the T56. So I'm hoping it will fit without any drama. Time will tell.

Regarding the Gen 3 Coyote crate, for me it's a question of whether it will fit in the Coupe and when it will be available. The "fit" part is specifically about the direction injection (DI) pump that's mounted on the RH cylinder head. Appears to be very close to the Coupe chassis rail in that area. Note this doesn't appear to be an issue with the Roadster. I haven't seen the Gen 3 Coyote yet -- only pictures -- but the Roadster is open in that area of the engine compartment. So should not be an issue.

I don't want to give out specific contact information. But I will keep my Coupe build thread updated with what I'm able to learn. I expect Factory Five to be following this as well. They were represented at the recent PRI show in Indy where Ford displayed the Coyote Gen 3 crate.

[John T]

I ordered mine this week. The winter sale last until Feb 28th.

[RodneyArcher]

DEPOSIT PAID!!!!

I have waited for so many years for this and still can't believe iit's happening!

[Papa]

DEPOSIT PAID!!!!

I have waited for so many years for this and still can't believe iit's happening!

Congratulations! Now comes the worst part of the entire process; waiting for the car to arrive.

Dave

[bil1024]

DEPOSIT PAID!!!!

I have waited for so many years for this and still can't believe iit's happening!

Congrats! Its a blast, enjoy and keep us updated, we are here to help and help ya spend money!!!!!!!!

[RodneyArcher]

Paul,

Any chance you would be willing to share your contacts for the Gen 3 Coyote? I am looking at doing the same set up that you are doing in your Coupe (if the trans will fit in the roadster).

Thanks!

[FLPBFoot]

DEPOSIT PAID!!!!

I have waited for so many years for this and still can't believe iit's happening!

Nice! You will not regret it! Looks like a great build!

[Papa]

Rodney,

Welcome to the community. I'm a bit envious of the build you have laid out. If I were you, I'd get the order placed on-line before this particular sale ends. They typically only have one like this a year and the others that pop up usually won't save you as much money as the current sale. As everyone else has said, you will be able to make changes to your order all the way up to about two weeks before your planned completion date. All you'll need to lock in is to give FF a deposit that they will take when they call you to review your order. Until you give them that deposit, you aren't committed to anything.

Dave

[Ray]

Where in CA are you located? There are lots of builders around that would love to help etc. You can add your city to your profile page so I show under your screen name .

Welcome to the family.

Ray

[RodneyArcher]

I am in Bakersfield, I tried to edit my profile but was unsuccessful. Hopefully that isn't a sign for the upcoming build...ha ha.

[wareaglescott]

I am in Bakersfield, I tried to edit my profile but was unsuccessful. Hopefully that isn't a sign for the upcoming build...ha ha.

Think you need 20 posts before you can add that info. Post a few more times and you will be there.

[RJD]

Congratulations, you won’t regret it. I’m two months into my build and loving it!

[sbhunter]

When I ordered my kit in November, I asked about deleting the pipes and was told they would not give a credit for them. I was able to delete some other items that I am going aftermarket on like the seats for credit. I figured that I would use the stock pipes for go carting and maybe some drag strip runs just because they are louder. They seem to be easy to sell when you don’t want them any more. My kit was completed on the 23rd and I am anxiously awaiting Stewart’s call at this point!!

[Higgybulin]

I am SOOOOO jealous!!! Congrats!! Keep us posted on how it goes!
Higgy

[RodneyArcher]

Is there anybody that has gone through the build process near Bakersfield?

So I have been going through the notebook that I have been using to write down all of my "wants". I will post here and gladly accept and advice.

1. All LED lighting. Need to find good quality headlights. I would also like to incorporate interior LED foot well lighting.
2. Dyno-mat as much as possible for both heat and sound. Open to suggestions on best product for this.
3. I would like to use something similar to this...https://www.pepboys.com/product/details/9415548/00622 in a series to operate initial power on, seat heaters, and additional electrical switches that are still TBD.
4. Push button start (Watson's Street Works?)
5. Drop trunk mod
6. Turn signal mod
7. Trunk mount battery
8. USB Charger ports
9. Cup Holders
10. Pocket on trans tunnel for cell phones?

Plus 100 other things as well!

[sbhunter]

1. Watson Street Works has a full LED light package for the mk4 kit that includes headlights and interior lights with magnetic door switches
3. I have used this style switch in other applications. The issue I see for this confined interior is the red safety cover. It has to be up to turn the switch on and sticks out quit a bit. Flipping it down shuts off the switch. Placement would be important to avoid bumping it on accident and shutting off your car.
7. Personally, I don’t understand putting the battery in the trunk. Trunk space is at a premium and it is a long cable run to the starter. I ordered Breeze’s battery tray for the engine compartment.

Just my 2 pennies.

[wareaglescott]

1. EdwardB is a great source on LED lighting info
2. I used Thermo-tec. Bought on Amazon. Cheaper than Dyna mat and works just as well. Very pleased with that product.
4. Jazzman used Watson street works push button starter - last I talked with him he was having some complications with it. He would be good to message about that.
7. Breeze forward battery mount works great with the Coyote and makes the wiring runs shorter. May be worth considering
8. I put a under dash USB plug in. Used the radio wire on the Ron Francis harness to power it since I don't have a radio. Bought USB from dell city.
10. I have a pocket on my trans tunnel I intended for my cell phone. I ended up just putting it in the door panel all the time instead. Found it was easier to get in and out of there in the tight space. Would not do one again on the trans tunnel but you may like it there.

[Jazzman]

1. EdwardB is a great source on LED lighting info
2. I used Thermo-tec. Bought on Amazon. Cheaper than Dyna mat and works just as well. Very pleased with that product.
4. Jazzman used Watson street works push button starter - last I talked with him he was having some complications with it. He would be good to message about that.
7. Breeze forward battery mount works great with the Coyote and makes the wiring runs shorter. May be worth considering
8. I put a under dash USB plug in. Used the radio wire on the Ron Francis harness to power it since I don't have a radio. Bought USB from dell city.
10. I have a pocket on my trans tunnel I intended for my cell phone. I ended up just putting it in the door panel all the time instead. Found it was easier to get in and out of there in the tight space. Would not do one again on the trans tunnel but you may like it there.

I did use the Watson's Streetworks pushbutton start kit with RFID security. I am very happy with it now. I did have some early issues with it, but it was because I was the first one to buy the package after Ford upgraded from the Gen 1 to the Gen 2 Coyote. The programming had to be adjusted slightly, and I turned out to be the guinea pig. Once they ironed out the programming it works very well. No issues created by Watson's streetworks. (I accidentally pinched a wire which caused problems, but that was my fault, not theirs!) I like the RFID security, and it really works. I started the car, went inside to get my sunglasses, and the engine shut off because the RFID chip in my pocket was too far away from the car! If someone does drive off with the car, it will shut down as soon as it is beyond a certain range to the RFID chip. It's slick.

x2 on the Thermo-tec. I used it everywhere, and am very pleased with it. It does a great job of deadening sound and protecting against heat transmission.

x2 on USB plugs. a nice little feature to charge your phone if necessary.

Good luck on your build. I already miss it!

[Mark Eaton]

I'm doing a trunk mount battery inside of my drop trunk mod. you can check it out on my thread, I have posted multiple photos. I'm almost finished with it. I got the idea from 2Bking.

[Boydster]

I tried Watson's Street works pushbutton start with RFID security and never got it to work. Spent several full days and several phone calls with them. Engine would never turn over. Finally took 15 minutes, ripped it all out and wired in a standard ignition switch and voila, it turned over. Stayed with the switch and never looked back.

Just my personal experience... But I'm usually pretty good with this stuff.

[RodneyArcher]

February 17th!!!

That's the scheduled completion date. I thought I had more time...time to get some things done in the garage and start planning for delivery!

[FLPBFoot]

Feb 17. Dave said about 6 week kit prep time. Was pretty much right on, actually a bit faster than that!

Good Luck!

[RodneyArcher]

So I have the frame dolly complete and will be finishing the body buck this weekend. I am planning on doing the elevated version so it will fit over the frame during the build process. Things are coming along and the arrival date is about a month away!!!

Frame Dolly.jpg

[lewma]

So I have the frame dolly complete and will be finishing the body buck this weekend. I am planning on doing the elevated version so it will fit over the frame during the build process. Things are coming along and the arrival date is about a month away!!!

Frame Dolly.jpg

I'm planning on an elevated version too. Are you working from a design on this ? If so, can you share it ?

thanks!
mark

[RodneyArcher]

I got my plans from Jazzman, he was gracious enough to share both plans for the frame dolly and body buck. The links are in his signature but I copied it below.


http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...-MkIV-Roadster

Without having the frame yet I'm not sure if I added enough height in wood for the size of my casters.

*Side note: I used MDF instead of plywood (I'm sure it will substitute ok for this purpose). If you get a 2' x 4' piece as the instructions call for make sure when cutting it that you don't go too far past your cut lines. There is a little room to adjust but there isn't much waste when making these cuts.

[lewma]

Thankyou sir.

[Yama-Bro]

In my build thread, I have detailed drawings of a raised buck with a heavy duty shelf for storing a lot of parts. If you are interested, check out my build thread...link in the sig. I wouldn't suggest building my version unless you need the storage.

[RodneyArcher]

Quick question, when do you get access to build manual? I would like to start reading through it but my delivery is still a few weeks away.

[edwardb]

Quick question, when do you get access to build manual? I would like to start reading through it but my delivery is still a few weeks away.

You'll get a paper copy with your kit delivery. If you want an electronic version, $10 in the parts store. You'll get an immediate download. I like having the electronic copy even with the paper copy. Allows quick/easy searches. http://www.factoryfiveparts.com/sear...ssembly+manual

[David Hodgkins]

Rodney, Congrats on an awesome order. You will be truly happy with the combo chosen when complete!

Here are a few threads to help with pic hosting, and maintaining your thread title as you work the build:

Embedding pics:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...tures-in-posts
Maintaining thread titles:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...tle-Guidelines

You've already been granted full access so you are good to go with the pics, updating your profile and sig, etc.

[RodneyArcher]

Thanks David!

I am getting 404 errors though on your links....

[David Hodgkins]

Thanks David!

I am getting 404 errors though on your links....

Oops! Fixed, and here they are again, so you don't have to click back to the first page:

Embedding pics:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...tures-in-posts
Maintaining thread titles:
https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...tle-Guidelines