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    Quote Originally Posted by freds View Post
    "5. Drive side engine hoist bracket WILL RUB. Remove as many shims as possible."

    I heated that bracket with an oxy-acetylene torch and bent it, to get clearance., which certainly helped.
    Paul caught me before i made it that far, luckily. Thank you, Paul.
    Gen3 Coupe: BOSS 302/Coyote & T56 Build Thread - https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...733#post312733

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    FYI Added pricing to my parts list, in my original post. I'm noticing a TON of budget builds or those wanting to build with budgets. Check out my parts list and make sure this is for you. It adds up VERY quickly... This doesn't include required tooling, things that didn't work or fit, duplicates, spares, back ups, lol.... etc!
    Gen3 Coupe: BOSS 302/Coyote & T56 Build Thread - https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...733#post312733

    Arrival: 6/21/18 1st Go Kart: TBA Registered: TBA Painted: TBA Complete:TBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBabyBadger View Post
    FYI Added pricing to my parts list, in my original post. I'm noticing a TON of budget builds or those wanting to build with budgets. Check out my parts list and make sure this is for you. It adds up VERY quickly... This doesn't include required tooling, things that didn't work or fit, duplicates, spares, back ups, lol.... etc!
    Out of curiosity, how much are you budgeting for paint? Are there any other purchases you haven't made that you expect to make? Just trying to get a feel for a real build estimate.

    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by mswisher View Post
    Out of curiosity, how much are you budgeting for paint? Are there any other purchases you haven't made that you expect to make? Just trying to get a feel for a real build estimate.

    Matt
    Hey Matt. Good question! I work in Collision (I run a major bay area MSO) so paint will be pretty inexpensive for me. My background is body tech, so I'll do all the body work and trimming and fitting. Raw materials I'm guesstimating to be in the $3k range. A gallon of Rage Extreme Filler, tons of sandpaper, and 3 stage Nitrous Blue. Obviously this is a no labor price.

    Also, interior. I ordered some really *****in' vinyl wrap for my dash and some other accent vinyls. Depending how they look I ***MAY*** do the interior myself, otherwise I was quoted $2500, but that included redoing my seats to match as well.

    I would say if you can do NONE of the work yourself, interior is a solid $2-3,000 depending on complexity. I'm keeping it simple, like the original car was. Paint I'd budget $7-10K. Easily. There's probably 150-ish hours of REAL TIME in the fitment, prep and actual paint. Clearly I'm a bad thermometer since I'm doing it myself, but that's my 2 cents. I'm sure some one will chime in with their paint receipts.

    Also keep in mind... several items in my build are upgrades and not mandatory. A donor car will save tons. I plan to resell the car so everything will need to be tip-top and second to none to fetch a high dollar.

    Let me know if you have lingering questions after all that... Good luck!
    Gen3 Coupe: BOSS 302/Coyote & T56 Build Thread - https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...733#post312733

    Arrival: 6/21/18 1st Go Kart: TBA Registered: TBA Painted: TBA Complete:TBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBabyBadger View Post
    Hey Matt. Good question! I work in Collision (I run a major bay area MSO) so paint will be pretty inexpensive for me. My background is body tech, so I'll do all the body work and trimming and fitting. Raw materials I'm guesstimating to be in the $3k range. A gallon of Rage Extreme Filler, tons of sandpaper, and 3 stage Nitrous Blue. Obviously this is a no labor price.

    Also, interior. I ordered some really *****in' vinyl wrap for my dash and some other accent vinyls. Depending how they look I ***MAY*** do the interior myself, otherwise I was quoted $2500, but that included redoing my seats to match as well.

    I would say if you can do NONE of the work yourself, interior is a solid $2-3,000 depending on complexity. I'm keeping it simple, like the original car was. Paint I'd budget $7-10K. Easily. There's probably 150-ish hours of REAL TIME in the fitment, prep and actual paint. Clearly I'm a bad thermometer since I'm doing it myself, but that's my 2 cents. I'm sure some one will chime in with their paint receipts.

    Also keep in mind... several items in my build are upgrades and not mandatory. A donor car will save tons. I plan to resell the car so everything will need to be tip-top and second to none to fetch a high dollar.

    Let me know if you have lingering questions after all that... Good luck!
    Thanks. I figured about 10k for paint/body work. Good to know my 'swag' of 60-70k for a similar build is close enough to plan to.

    P.S. I'm also in NorCal (Pleasanton area), I would be interested to see this when/if your open to visitors.

    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by mswisher View Post
    Thanks. I figured about 10k for paint/body work. Good to know my 'swag' of 60-70k for a similar build is close enough to plan to.

    P.S. I'm also in NorCal (Pleasanton area), I would be interested to see this when/if your open to visitors.

    Matt
    I think that's a safe budget. Keep in mind... the build isn't slow but takes time. If you'd told me my current budget would have been $50k+ up front, I would have done something else or bought a GT350R, lol. But it comes in waves so it's been easy to expand the budget some what slowly. Hopefully you have a good CC that rewards you with lots of miles.

    Always open to making new friends, Matt! I'll shoot you a PM with my number so we can get together. There's a Cars and Coffee the 3rd week of April and I'm hoping to have the car in Go-Kart mode by then so people can check it out! Chat with you soon.
    Gen3 Coupe: BOSS 302/Coyote & T56 Build Thread - https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...733#post312733

    Arrival: 6/21/18 1st Go Kart: TBA Registered: TBA Painted: TBA Complete:TBA

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    ***SMALL UPDATE - Also some hurdles***

    So I had a little time this weekend to make some headway and of course I learned a few things!

    So originally I assumed the fitting, trimming and body work would be the longest part of this entire process... now I'm looking forward to being MOST at home, because that's my wheel house. I would now say the header installation probably takes the most patience and time, up to this point ( I was kidding about the body work being quicker). My lord... the fit is TIGHT and some bolts have only enough access for 1/8 to 1/8 of a rotation at a time. Get a padded creeper and get comfortable. That said, with them installed, pretty happy about the new look for the kit. It's finally coming together as a Go-Kart!

    Advice:

    • Remove the alternator on the driver's side. Header doesn't fit with it installed. I left one header stud at the back of each head to hang the headers. In hind site, this worked out very well as it allowed me to pivot the front of the header into place and begin inserting header bolts. Take your time. Don't cross thread. Walk away when you get frustrated. You'll most likely want a hand, but even your wife or kids can help here. Often the headers need to be lifted and lowered from the edges of the collector to get the bolt started.
    • Get a nutsert riveter if you don't have one, it's SO handy. The radiator upper mount is also removable now with the nutserts, just in case it needs to be taken out. Looks clean and makes sense!
    • Remove interior pieces to install transmission plate. It doesn't slide into place, but it can be slide easily with some interior panels removed.



    Hurdles:

    • Drive line is wrong. The bolt holes aren't large enough to get rear end flange bolt through. Already emailed FFR.
    • Transmission rubs cross member above the shift. Open to suggestions here. The tunnel is too tight. The mount has two kind of layers but it doesn't seem it'll do it's job if I remove the upper layer. Anyone?



    Pics of the install (more to follow tonight):

    Headers01.JPG


    Placed interior items to confirm everything is in the right place. I'll take some photos of the wedged in trans tonight. More to come soon.


    Interior01.JPG

    As I sort the hurdles I mentioned I'll be installing the battery and tray, though I haven't decided on a final resting place for it. I will most likely install as FFR recommends and add some leads for a jump start some where accessible but hidden. I'd like to get the car fired this month, so next steps are to finish cooling system, intake, brake lines (and bleed), clutch (and bleed) and gauges installed. Once that's done and I hear her purr, I can begin running my heater items, plumbing AC, running body harness, etc. Then it's onto body!
    Gen3 Coupe: BOSS 302/Coyote & T56 Build Thread - https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...733#post312733

    Arrival: 6/21/18 1st Go Kart: TBA Registered: TBA Painted: TBA Complete:TBA

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    If you haven't seen the other thread about T56 Magnum transmission fitment in a Gen 3 Coupe, the findings are thus: the FFR manual shows the trans mount adapter steel plate going on top of the frame mount points, but for the T56M it should go BELOW them to gain the needed clearance for the larger-than-TKO-sized T56M transmission. It will lower the transmission enough to make it clear. If you run IRS out back, it will not have any negative impact on your pinion angles in the driveshaft to the rear end.

    EdwardB can confirm with photos/personal experience on the T56 in Gen 3 Coupe fitment.... I'm just studying for my own build and have well organized notes on the subject
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan View Post
    If you haven't seen the other thread about T56 Magnum transmission fitment in a Gen 3 Coupe, the findings are thus: the FFR manual shows the trans mount adapter steel plate going on top of the frame mount points, but for the T56M it should go BELOW them to gain the needed clearance for the larger-than-TKO-sized T56M transmission. It will lower the transmission enough to make it clear. If you run IRS out back, it will not have any negative impact on your pinion angles in the driveshaft to the rear end.

    EdwardB can confirm with photos/personal experience on the T56 in Gen 3 Coupe fitment.... I'm just studying for my own build and have well organized notes on the subject
    That was going to be my solution if there wasn't one. I'm surprised I haven't caught that yet as I read up pretty often. Easy fix... Thanks Logan!
    Gen3 Coupe: BOSS 302/Coyote & T56 Build Thread - https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...733#post312733

    Arrival: 6/21/18 1st Go Kart: TBA Registered: TBA Painted: TBA Complete:TBA

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    ***kit car sold before completion***

    It's definitely with a heavy heart I write this post. Unfortunately, life kind of handed me a large deck of cards this last year. Surgery. My daughter's birth. My oldest daughter's diminished mental health. It's been a lot. My OCD also doesn't allow me to tear through the task very quickly as I modify and replace and change out kit parts...

    SO, I made the very decision to sell it. A retired gentleman in the Sacramento Area picked it up on Sunday and has the time and means to complete it. I'll try to post pictures when he does so as we plan to keep in pretty close touch! That way this thread wasn't a complete waste of time.

    I appreciate all those who tuned in... Thank you everyone for your input, help and general cordial demeanor during my short time here. It really was fun and has been a pleasure.

    God Bless, all!
    Gen3 Coupe: BOSS 302/Coyote & T56 Build Thread - https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...733#post312733

    Arrival: 6/21/18 1st Go Kart: TBA Registered: TBA Painted: TBA Complete:TBA

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    Oh man, sorry to hear about all the things going on leading up to the decision! Now that you have a taste of the build, maybe we'll see another one in progress from you when life settles down
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    I'm DEFINITELY not saying goodbye... just see you later.

    Gen3 Coupe: BOSS 302/Coyote & T56 Build Thread - https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...733#post312733

    Arrival: 6/21/18 1st Go Kart: TBA Registered: TBA Painted: TBA Complete:TBA

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    Totally understandable. As life priorities go, this is a low one. It's cool you can follow your build. Goes without saying we get emotionally invested in these things. My #7750 Roadster build had a similar situation. I bought it from a guy that didn't want to see it go, but didn't have a choice. He really appreciated that I stayed in touch and sent pictures of the completed build.
    Build 1: Mk3 Roadster #5125. Sold 11/08/2014.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardb View Post
    Totally understandable. As life priorities go, this is a low one. It's cool you can follow your build. Goes without saying we get emotionally invested in these things. My #7750 Roadster build had a similar situation. I bought it from a guy that didn't want to see it go, but didn't have a choice. He really appreciated that I stayed in touch and sent pictures of the completed build.
    Agreed. I'm really looking forward to seeing it all done. It was hard packing it up yesterday...
    Gen3 Coupe: BOSS 302/Coyote & T56 Build Thread - https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...733#post312733

    Arrival: 6/21/18 1st Go Kart: TBA Registered: TBA Painted: TBA Complete:TBA

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    I’m very sorry about your situation. Sending well wishes and good thoughts. If you are ever in SoCal and need a fix, PM me, you’re welcome in my garage any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P100DHG View Post
    I’m very sorry about your situation. Sending well wishes and good thoughts. If you are ever in SoCal and need a fix, PM me, you’re welcome in my garage any day.
    Thank you sir! Much appreciated!
    Gen3 Coupe: BOSS 302/Coyote & T56 Build Thread - https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...733#post312733

    Arrival: 6/21/18 1st Go Kart: TBA Registered: TBA Painted: TBA Complete:TBA

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