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    I do plan to take it easy, but I plan to take it. I'm anxious to get the motor here. Mike Forte finished it several months ago. So I'll like looking at it even if it just sits in my garage for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    I do plan to take it easy, but I plan to take it. I'm anxious to get the motor here. Mike Forte finished it several months ago. So I'll like looking at it even if it just sits in my garage for a while.
    From a KC native, Iím rooting for you. Iím waiting on my Forteís engine delivery now too.

    Hope to see you cruising in the Ozarks one day. Go Chiefs!
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    It's been over 3 months since my surgery and I am anxious to get back to work on the MK4. We've had a couple of warm days and i was able to spend some time in the garage. I put the padded vinyl on the dash and stared the Breeze seat modification. I am making room in the garage for my motor and plan to call Mike Forte Monday morning and have him ship it to me.
    Don't expect the weather to stay mild much longer; so, I'll try to get a little more done tomorrow. By the way I'll be 72 tomorrow as well. I'd like to be ready for paint before 73.

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    John,

    Good to hear you are recovering and back at the build. Happy birthday!

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    Motor was delivered this morning. Thanks Mike Forte. As the garage warms up I can study the manual and find the mounts and transmission support and plan the install.IMG_1424.jpg

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    Battery question: I'm using the Breeze front battery mount mode. Breeze said I could use a type 51. Should I go for the Optima or do I need to spend that much? Also do I need to use the reverse posts?
    Thanks for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    Installed the F panels today. I'll have to admit I was nervous drilling the first holes. But now I've broken the ice, and I 'm ready to keep moving.
    You'll be sooo over drilling holes before you're done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa View Post
    You'll be sooo over drilling holes before you're done!

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    You went back a few months for that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    You went back a few months for that one.
    I know -- Sometimes I don't pay attention to the latest post. So, are you over drilling yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa View Post
    I know -- Sometimes I don't pay attention to the latest post. So, are you over drilling yet?
    Mostly. The rear cockpit and trunk have to be drilled and riveted. I've done brake lines and fuel lines. The wiring harness is laid in (not all plugged in) I have the motor in the shop and when the weather warms up I'll put it in. Made some progress over the summer. Spent the winter recovery from surgery. Now I'm just waiting for warmer weather. The garage is too cold at 40 degrees.

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    You're making great progress in spite of the hurdles. Keep up the great work.

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    Should I go for the Optima or do I need to spend that much? Also do I need to use the reverse posts?
    I've never owned/used an Optima (or felt the need for it) personally. A lot of the common opinion is they're overrated for the cost and longevity.
    I bought an upper/middle of the road NAPA "house brand" battery for #9365. 60 month warranty, and the highest CCA rating for the Group 51 size in that "quality" category.

    I'm also using the Breeze battery box, don't get the "R"/reverse post version. Here's a few pics as to why NOT the "R" version...

    Battery_01.png
    The "R/reverse" post version would put the + post into close proximity to the front chassis "X". If something should happen it could ground out.

    Battery_02.png
    You can see just how close the negative cable terminal gets to the "X" member with a NON "R" version.

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    Routing & main ground attachment ideas...
    Last edited by Fixit; 02-20-2019 at 06:03 PM. Reason: Edited for "R" version clarification
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    Thanks, for the response. I have a friend at Battery Outfitters who helped me with the purchase of the Optima at a price that I could live with.
    Last edited by John T; 02-20-2019 at 12:15 PM. Reason: Add information

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixit View Post
    I've never owned/used an Optima (or felt the need for it) personally. A lot of the common opinion is they're overrated for the cost and longevity.
    I bought an upper/middle of the road NAPA "house brand" battery for #9365. 60 month warranty, and the highest CCA rating for the Group 51 size in that "quality" category.

    I'm also using the Breeze battery box, and yes... get the "R"/reverse post version. Here's a few pics as to why the "R" version...

    Battery_01.png
    The "R/reverse" post version puts the + post into the void/airspace of the front chassis "X". If something should happen there's nothing for it to ground out to.

    Battery_02.png
    You can see just how close the negative cable terminal gets to the "X" member.

    Battery_03.png
    Routing & main ground attachment ideas...
    Looking at your photo, it seems you have a 51 not a 51R battery. My understanding is the R is for right post positive. The front of your battery is facing forward (up against the X frame) with the positive being on the left to stay away from the frame. Am I missing something?

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    I stand corrected... It is a 51 in #9365, not an "R".

    The warnings should state to not get an "R"... as it will put the + post very close to the frame "X" member.
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    Agree that Optima batteries aren't cheap. Seems people have a love/hate relationship with them. Some say they last for a decade or whatever. Others seem to have problems just as soon as another much cheaper brands. I can only cite my experience. I've used them twice in the Breeze mount. Both still going strong. One six years old, the other three years old. They do have a 3-year full replacement warranty. But then so do others. One of the things that makes them especially expensive in this application is the only Group 51 Optima sells is their higher end yellow top deep cycle version. But I like that because it gives me a little more margin for error since our driving season is short and the car spends half the time in storage. I throw a C-Tek charger on it a couple times during storage just to be sure, and all so far is good. If you do go Optima, you want part number 8071-167 D51. That puts the terminals in the right location, with the positive post well away from the frame as mentioned. Looks like this during my #8674 build.

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