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Thread: Did Ford eliminate the Clutch Top Travel (CTT) switch in the latest controls pack?

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    Did Ford eliminate the Clutch Top Travel (CTT) switch in the latest controls pack?

    I purchased M-6017-504V with my M-6007-M50A Coyote engine. I've started to layout the harness in the chassis and I noticed there is only a connector on the harness for the Accelerator (APPS) and the Clutch Bottom Travel (CBT, gray plunger) but nothing for the Clutch Top Travel (CTT, black plunger), even though the kit shipped with both switches and I installed them both in the pedal box. Does anybody know or should I just give Ford Performance a call?

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    I've heard from several builders that the latest version of the Coyote control pack eliminated the top clutch switch. The top switch is also no longer shown in the latest instructions. I think it's safe to say it's gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardb View Post
    I've heard from several builders that the latest version of the Coyote control pack eliminated the top clutch switch. The top switch is also no longer shown in the latest instructions. I think it's safe to say it's gone.
    I think you are right. I'll remove the switch and the bracket, it will save some weight at least

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    My (backordered) control pack arrived yesterday. I'll have some time to dig into it this afternoon and I'll update here.
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    Called Ford last week and they confirmed No top switch needed.... time to take it back out.

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    Yes. I spoke with them last week and there is no more top switch. There are a number of changes in the controls pack between the Gen 2 (2015) and the latest version (I guess Gen 3). The instruction sheet is different, the schematic is different, the switches and harness are different. The tech I spoke with was referring to his version of the doc, I was referring to mine and it was like we were speaking different languages. Call them and they will send you the latest version of the documentation if that's what your controls pack seeks. Or - ask them to get you your version. I'm sure they have them archived. "-50A" is a Gen2 engine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al_C View Post
    Yes. I spoke with them last week and there is no more top switch. There are a number of changes in the controls pack between the Gen 2 (2015) and the latest version (I guess Gen 3). The instruction sheet is different, the schematic is different, the switches and harness are different. The tech I spoke with was referring to his version of the doc, I was referring to mine and it was like we were speaking different languages. Call them and they will send you the latest version of the documentation if that's what your controls pack seeks. Or - ask them to get you your version. I'm sure they have them archived. "-50A" is a Gen2 engine...
    Gen3 is the 2018 Coyote. It hasn't been released yet. The Gen 2 (2015-2017) control pack instructions are on the Ford Performance website. Marked as REV3 and don't show the top clutch switch. So assume this is the latest. https://performanceparts.ford.com/do..._504V_REV3.PDF

    If the tech guys are reading from the Gen3 control pack instructions, that's going to be confusing since they haven't been released or sold to the public yet. Promised for late August.
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