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Thread: '33 front suspension vs '35 Pickup

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    '33 front suspension vs '35 Pickup

    I saw this pic of the '35 the other day. The front is suppose to be the same setup as the '33 however the Koni's are mounted upside down.
    Is there a reason for this? Or is the info in my manual wrong?

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    '33 Hotrod, #1047 Gen 1, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
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    The beta Pickup truck manual shows them opposite of your picture. See mine for reference.

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    They are different shocks than used to come with the 33. They must be mounted with the adjuster on the bottom. The old red ones can be mounted either way. Jim yours are upside down and will not work properly that way.

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    Thanks for the clarification.
    Wallace18, that pic above was one I saw on line, not my car.
    I have mine mounted with the adjuster on the bottom.
    '33 Hotrod, #1047 Gen 1, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
    LS3 w/Gearstar Level 3 4L65e Tranny, Yank converter, Lokar shifter, Electric PS, Vintage AC/Heat/Def, 8.8" 3.55
    TorqThrust II Wheels w/Toyo Proxy T1 Sport Tires, F 235/45ZR17 R 295/35ZR18
    Garage Built, Driveway Painted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLev View Post
    Thanks for the clarification.
    Wallace18, that pic above was one I saw on line, not my car.
    I have mine mounted with the adjuster on the bottom.
    10/4. Should have known you would do it correctly, LOL.

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    Someone should tell Mark Gerhardt then! That’s his truck.

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    Here's the link that I grabbed the pic from.
    https://www.hotrod.com/articles/fron...4B74B501A57C72

    The article was written by Mark G.
    A little ways down under one of the pics it this...

    "The nickel plated Koni twin-tube coilovers are built with comfort in mind. Small spacers are used on both sides of the shock ends. We originally installed them right side up and later inverted the coilovers as they should be!"
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    '33 Hotrod, #1047 Gen 1, delivered on 2/27/18, go cart on 9/24/18.
    LS3 w/Gearstar Level 3 4L65e Tranny, Yank converter, Lokar shifter, Electric PS, Vintage AC/Heat/Def, 8.8" 3.55
    TorqThrust II Wheels w/Toyo Proxy T1 Sport Tires, F 235/45ZR17 R 295/35ZR18
    Garage Built, Driveway Painted.

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    There has been many discussions about shock mounting and orientation of the adjusters on this forum. You have to pay attention to brand and style of the shock. The best source of information is the manufacturer of the coil over you are using. Some can be mounted "upside down". Whether this is an advantage for you is up to you to determine. If you think you will be adjusting them a lot or possible swapping the springs there could be merit in the upside down mount as long as the shock can operate in that orientation.

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    JimLev, they are much easier to adjust ride height when the fronts are inverted. I have a new pair of red Koni single adjustable coil overs that came with my kit -- these can be run inverted. I used them when assembling my car and before I completed the car I changed to QA1 all around. So mine are now in my swap meet box. If you need a set PM me an offer.

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    Speaking of adjustable, what spanner wrench do I need?

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    We are referring to 2 different adjustments in this thread. 1) is the compression and rebound knobs (on some styles) and the other #2) is the spring height. Again, the spanner wrench for the spring is dependent on the body style. If you mount "upside down" on the front then access to the height adjustment is usually much easier to access with the spanner. QA1 requires a different spanner for the adjustment ring than the lock ring. The Koni can use a cheaper spanner generally. FFR has supplied a couple different coil over styles so you really need to look it up on the manufacturers site. On my car the fan is in front of the radiator and the radiator is mounted closer to the springs so I have a piece of paneling I stick in to protect the radiator when cranking on the springs. I have been much happier with the DD series QA1's.

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    Per Jim Schenck the twin tube dual adjustable Konis must be mounted body down to function properly while the red mono tube Konis can go either way. When Jim talks I listen...

    Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kleiner View Post
    Per Jim Schenck the twin tube dual adjustable Konis must be mounted body down to function properly while the red mono tube Konis can go either way. When Jim talks I listen...

    Jeff
    If someone has pictures of the two types it would be very helpful, this is a picture of mine, not sure if it can be flipped 180 degrees.
    20180813_121742.jpg The front and back shocks are the same just different spring capacities.

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