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    Fingers crossed !

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    Quote Originally Posted by j.miller View Post
    Fingers crossed !
    Ditto...'cause you know what a gallon of paint is? A wise man once told me that it's 128 ounces of trouble looking for a place to happen

    Good luck man---you've done your homework and are gonna' do good!

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    OMG, no pictures! After all we've been reading?!?! Lord, gonna drive me to drinkin... wait, nevermind. Prolly gonna hit us with an explosion of em when its done.
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    Holy FreeWholee. Metalic paint is every bit has hard to spray as they say it is! Trying to avoid tigerstripe was brutal! I think I pulled it off, but only the light of day in the sun is going to reveal if I did.
    Tomorrow, I'm going to be spraying on the clear. Tonight.. Beer!!
    P.S. I've said it before.. and I'll say it again.. HOLY SCHMOLY I LOVE THIS COLOR!!







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    The clear will be hard to see as well as you will like when spraying unless you have excellent lighting. I sprayed a lot of the clear with a shop light in my left hand and the spray gun in my right. I have two 18000 lumines led lights in my ceiling and two floresent light fixtures on the walls. You just can’t have enough light.
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    That is looking sexy!!

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    Really ! Girls in the paint booth ! Ok, so, the thing we like about girls is that they smell good (among other things). The problem is that things that smell good are not good for paint......It's like" crying in baseball"...…."THERE'S NO GIRLS IN THE PAINT BOOTH !".....other then that you are looking good...da Bat

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    That looks fantastic.
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    Good job

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    Very cool. Congratulations. I tip my hat to all of you who paint. Great job.
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    ..Aaaaaaaand. Cleared!! Some orange peal on a lot of the surfaces, but nothing that shouldn't wet sand out.
    A few more dust nibs than I would have liked, but.. so be it.
    The trunk turned out the best. Almost as smooth as glass.
    4 coats of clear. Partly because the pSheets said I could, and partly to see if that "Luck" Miller speaks of is still hanging over my head.
    These photos are an hour after the last coat.









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    Well done brother !!!! Adult beverages are on SKIDD !!!...da bat

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    Fantastic work!
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    Well done

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    WOW, that looks great! I really like your color choices also.

    As others have mentioned, I admire the folks that do their own body work and paint. You have done a terrific job!

    Please post some pics out in the daylight when you can; I bet that color just pops in the sun.

    Very nicely done!

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    Thanks for the props.. and the help guys!!
    Seriously!! I think I could have pulled off something of quality without all the forum help, but nothing nearly as good as it came out!
    Besides.. I'd still be sanding 220 before FeatherFill (Who does that?)
    You guys have been instrumental.
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    Wow. That looks great. I'm jealous. Wish mine looked that nice. Also wish I was brave enough to paint black.

    When it warms up I'll be looking for an excuse to drive. How about an invite to come take a peek?
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    Weather permitting.. I'll be most likely in my driveway color sanding and buffing for the next few weekends.. (no idea how long it'll take) so.. consider yourself invited!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidd View Post
    thanks for the props.. And the help guys!!
    Seriously!! I think i could have pulled off something of quality without all the forum help, but nothing nearly as good as it came out!
    Besides.. I'd still be sanding 220 before featherfill (who does that?)
    you guys have been instrumental.




    I KNOW ! Right !!!

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    Am I crazy... (Loaded question)...Or is the clear coat more level today? How long until the clear stops leveling out? There just seems like less orange peel now.

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    You might be crazy and that's OK so long as you are willing to own it (ask Miller, he'll tell ya)---just don't be crazy and try to say you're not.

    As for laying down, yeah. What clear did you use? My go to is 5 Star Xtreme Klearkote (proving that you don't have to be able to spell to mix up batches of clear coat) and it absolutely keeps flowing out and laying down for 24 hours. The downside for production shop users who want to shoot the car in the morning and deliver it that afternoon is that you really can't cut it for 48 hours but that's actually a good thing for us because it leaves a full 2 days to drink beer and watch paint dry.

    Cheers,
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    Well... The voices in my head, were arguing with the voices in Miller's head. They came to the conclusion that one of us is a meat popsicle. Clearly, they mean Miller.. so.. he is the crazy one around here.

    The clear I used was PPG Vibrance. Miller suggested it was pretty forgiving for a Newb to spray, and also really made a paint job pop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidd View Post
    Well... The voices in my head, were arguing with the voices in Miller's head. They came to the conclusion that one of us is a meat popsicle. Clearly, they mean Miller.. so.. he is the crazy one around here.

    The clear I used was PPG Vibrance. Miller suggested it was pretty forgiving for a Newb to spray, and also really made a paint job pop.



    So, You take "my" advise....and call me crazy. I'll chew on that one for a bit till it comes out the other end....then you can have it back. Two things are happening. 1. The clear stops flowing in about an hour. It will however "tighten up" and "lock down" as the solvents escape. In your case (happens to all of us sooner or later) I recommend Cialis two hours befo……...WHAT JUST HAPPENED HERE ! You're explaining, you're trying to help and then BAM...…..anybody else just hear that ? I heard a bam, no idea. Anywho! What you are actually seeing (or not seeing) Is C. You spent a lot of time painting and concentrating on something very important to you. You were using everything your body and mind could supply to complete this task. The sense that became most focused was your eyes....(HOWEVER !), your brain added things you don't use on a daily basis like extreme spatial awareness and hyper focus . In other words your mind exaggerated your normal perspective. SOOOOOO ! Looking at your paintjob the next day (after your Super Hero Power wore off by the next morning) the orange peel looks less, the job looks smoother.....and let me guess, That giant pterodactyl of an insect that landed in your paint turned out to be a little knat…….(OH SHURE ! I CAN SPELL "PTERODACTYLE"...…...BUT FORGET GNAT STARTS WITH A "G"....just shoot me)…..well on that note. I think I answered your question....maybe...so I'll take me leave. Before I go, is there anything else I can help you with (and don't bring up that rash. I already told see a Dr.) good, well, bye,...da Bat

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidd View Post
    Weather permitting.. I'll be most likely in my driveway color sanding and buffing for the next few weekends.. (no idea how long it'll take) so.. consider yourself invited!!
    Oh, oh what is this I hear, "Double, double beer and trouble. By the pricking of my thumbs, Some more questions this way comes" ?

    Don't forget to ask Jeff and Jeff incorporated about the tips, traps, snares, pitfalls of the wonder world of color sanding and buffing. Like when you look over the edge of the abyss and it looks back. That's a bad, bad scene, which leads to all kinds of making up new crass words, drowning yourself in Really Adult beverages, and then asking how do you guys "blend" a burnt spot, don't ask me how I know this.

    You thought you were done with the hard part of a paint job, but in reality it's just getting started. Use caution my forum brother, like the ice on the lake, stay alert and away from the edges it's thin there.

    At least we can see how long you can keep the "beginners good luck charm".

    We're all rooting for you good luck.

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    Pulled into the sunlight today!! Soooo happy with how this turned out.



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    Dayum! good job! I've been watching this thread and you done good, not that I'm an expert, heck I'm not even a beginner when it comes to body work and paint. Anyway, I'm confident you'll approach the remainder in the same informed way and it will get only better..... Steve

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    Way to go! Looks damn nice.
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    Looks Great! You'll always see any imperfections that no one else could/would ever find. I painted mine too. Most people are looking at the Big Picture. Again, LOOKS GREAT!
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    Great job, you can be proud of it!
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    I was wet sanding today in my driveway. Almost every neighbor came out to ask me why I was ruining the paint job!!!
    "It was already so shiny!! what are you doing to it!". "Are you going to spray it again now?"
    Funny thing is, they're almost right. Not shiny any more. ... yet.
    I'll tell ya one thing though... I thought the paint was smooth before (yeah yeah.. some orange peal.. sure) but dayum!! Mirror Smooth now!!
    Going to finish up the wet-sanding tomorrow, give her a good wash, and plan to tackle the buffing stage next weekend.
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    Yeah the whole wet sanding thing freaks me out a bit. I remember when I first did it after repairing something and thought why am I ruining the paint job??? It does work though. Let’s see some pics when you have cleaned her up!
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    Holy Schhmoly!! It's turning out every bit as good as I hoped. Just finished the wool stage. When I started this DIY body work, I told myself I would be content with a 10-footer, and happy with a 5. I'm already at a 5-footer. That's an average persons 5-foot With the right light, I can still see some minor wavy-like-orange-peel. But, I have to go looking for it. Think I'ma have a celebration beer before starting the foam stage.
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    PS.. Holly Crap does black ever show every freaking imperfection!!!!!

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    Looking good now. Pls resist the temptation to do just a 'little' more, especially near edges and high spots. If you go through the clear, it will be your worse day in a long time.
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    Well.. I'm pretty happy with how it came out.
    Only the black shows any of the slight ripple/wave.. er.. what ever you would call it.
    The rest of the car turned out every bit as good as i would expect from a Garage job.
    Managed to NOT burn through anywhere. I was so paranoid about it, I'm betting a Pro would laugh at me and my technique.



    The rear cowl area is where the worst orangepeel was. Almost totally gone now.


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    You didn't burn through? It doesn't matter how you did it that's nuthin' to laugh about---GOOD JOB!

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    Looks great Skidd. Really a fantastic Job. That silver is incredibly deep.
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    very nice job... you should have a couple celebratory beers...

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    Absolutely beautiful.
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    Welcome at my campfire any night pilgrim … swap paint stories...tell some lies....till the wives come home then we blame it on Kleiner. He's always in trouble so it don't much matter. CHEERS...da Bat

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