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    Patrick's 427 Build

    I pulled the trigger and ordered my MKIV kit. Completion date is 2/2/19.

    As my name suggests, I have no knowledge or experience when it comes to building a car. I went to the Mott College Build school which was helpful, but I anticipate this forum will be the main source of help when problems arise.

    I've been reading multiple build threads (EdwardB, Papa, Wareagle, etc) in preparation for my kit to arrive, so I already feel like I've learned a lot about problems and troubleshooting, although I'm sure the reality of what I'm getting myself into will set in once those 26 boxes arrive.

    I only work about 15 days a month, so I anticipate I'll be able to dedicate a lot of time to the build. No kids (yet). No wife (yet).

    My plan is as follows:

    MK4 Complete kit-powder coated
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    427w engine Holly Sniper (from the Engine Factory) Pic at bottom.
    EFI In-tank Fuel system
    Tremac TKO 600
    Power Steering
    Halibrand wheels
    sway bars (front and rear)
    Wildwood brakes (red calipers)
    Drivers side chrome roll bar
    Breeze Radiator shroud
    Russ Thompson turn signal
    Drop trunk.
    Leather seats
    Vintage gauges
    Glove Box
    Wind Visors
    Sun Visors
    Pre-assembled side louvers

    Again, I'm the definition of a novice, so any help is MUCH appreciated. I look forward to the challenge.

    Thanks in advance,

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    Welcome to the madness... This forum is a great place for a lot of great information from a lot of awesome people. That looks like a great engine/trans combination. I went with the BluePrint route as FFR has a great relationship with them.

    Where are you located?

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    I'm in South Carolina. If anyone is near, please chime in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicalKnowledgeNone View Post
    I'm in South Carolina. If anyone is near, please chime in!
    I'm in Summerville SC (Charleston)

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    Welcome Aboard!

    Check out the build threads of Edwardb.
    His work is top notch and his threads supplement the heck out of the manuals.

    Conventional V8 / Solid Axle With A 5-Link Twist
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    Also, we have several Master Builders here that will always lend some very helpful advice.
    I'm not one of those Master Builders, but anything I can do to help is what you will find we all do for each other.

    Again, Welcome Aboard!
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    Almost sounds exactly like my build and I am enjoying it thoughly. Breeze parts and forte parts diffent though.
    20th Anniversary MK4 Roadster, #8752, 18 of 20, Delivered 12/03/15, 1st Start 01/28/2017, off to paint 4/13/2017, Forte 351w/ Holley EFI, Forte throttle linkage, TKO 600/Forte Hyd. Clutch, UniSteer Electra Steering, RT's turn Signals, many Breeze parts, Paint by the Cobra Colorist. Finished on 10/08/2017. 500 mile inspection on 10/21/2017, 3000 mile inspection on 1/14/19.

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    I'm just practicing uploading pictures. Here's a picture of my engine. I think it looks pretty good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadAsp427 View Post
    I'm in Summerville SC (Charleston)

    Thats great to hear!

    I'm in Columbia. It's nice to know there is a forum member fairly close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicalKnowledgeNone View Post
    Thats great to hear!

    I'm in Columbia. It's nice to know there is a forum member fairly close.
    You are welcome to come over pretty much anytime if you would like. If all goes well, DMV in your town will be sending me a title soon so I can do some legal driving and I will venture out further than the couple miles I've done so far. There is at least one other FFR Roadster here in the Charleston Area. He is just around the corner from me.

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    Welcome, Pat! Looks like a solid build and you're going to have a blast.
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    Hi Pat, I’m in Columbia SC as well, although I’m waiting until next Summer or Fall to pull the trigger on a roadster kit. I’ll be keeping an eye on your build thread, best wishes

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    Still working on how to embed pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicalKnowledgeNone View Post
    Still working on how to embed pictures.
    NICE MOTOR!!

    Inspecting your post, the pic was embedded correctly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicalKnowledgeNone View Post
    Still working on how to embed pictures.
    Not sure what you mean by embedding photos. All I do is click on the insert image button and select the photo that I want to put in. I have several folders that keep my build photo organized on my computer. Do you not have that button above your reply window your type in to make an post?

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    There is also a good post by the moderator at: CLICK HERE

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    Welcome and I'm glad my build thread has been helpful. I spent two months in Columbia, but I can't say I had a good time. Fort Jackson for basic training in August was no fun. I learned what humidity was though.

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    Still trying to practice posting pictures.

    Can everyone see the above picture of my helper?

    Thanks,

    Pat
    Last edited by Pat427; 02-03-2019 at 05:43 PM.
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    You got it! I have a supervisor as well.
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    Dogs are awesome.
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    Congrats and welcome! I can see your helper too.
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    Yup, see the doggie...
    Only problem I can see so far is that workbench is too damn clean!! (That'll get corrected all by itself in a month or two)

    Your pic reminded me of when we remodeled my shop about 5 years ago when I pulled the bench vise off after 15 years of service - clean wood!
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    I Got Some Deliveries Today

    I received my Wilwood brakes, TKO transmission and 427 Engine today. I'm definitely nervous and excited. Still waiting on that call from Stewart.







    MK4-IRS, 427w, TKO-600

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    First Step. Front Brakes.

    Not a lot of updates. Still anxiously waiting that call from Stewart Transport.

    I started on assembling my front brakes. I went with the Wilwood upgrade w/ red calipers. Gotta say these things feel as if they are high quality.
    I've only assembled the hats and rotors of the front brakes and got the safety wiring done.



    I feel lucky that I didn't have any trouble getting the hats and rotors bolted together. There seemed to be powder coat in the threads of the hat and rotor. I was worried the powder coat would cause a problem and even possibly cross threading. When I was tightening the bolts I could definitley feel the powder coat getting in the way, but luckily the bolts went in without any cross threading. I'm gonna chalk that up to beginners luck.

    According to the Wilwood assembly instructions, the bolts that attach the hat to the rotor were supposed to be torqued to 155 Inch/Lbs. I did not have an Inch/lb torque wrench, so I just converted Inch/lbs into Foot/lbs. The conversion is 155 Inch/lbs = 12.91 Foot/lbs, which is what I torqued the bolts down to. I don't think there is any issue using Foot/lbs as long the conversion is correct. If this is a problem please let me know.

    Next is the rear brakes...



    Any help or advice is MUCH appreciated.

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    12ft/lbs sounds about right... You're already points ahead - there are many who have missed that little abbreviation "in/lbs" and tried to torque to 155ft/lbs (with expected results).
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    Wilwoods Looks good. No problem converting to FtLbs... But take a second look at the one on the right in your photo. The safety wire at the 10:00 position in the photo looks like it may be pulling the bolt closest to the 9:00 position backwards. Also, on the one on the left, double check the one at 3:00. As the Wilwood instructions say, safety wire is an option, but if you have it you sure do not want it pulling backwards. You have a few others that seem to be pulling straight/neutral, while this is not optimal, it is not a major problem. Did you use any loctite? I see the tube in the photo. If this is your first time doing safety wire, you did really good. As a jet engine mechanic for the Air Force, I had tons of previous safety wire experience and had some fun doing mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadAsp427 View Post
    Wilwoods Looks good. No problem converting to FtLbs... But take a second look at the one on the right in your photo. The safety wire at the 10:00 position in the photo looks like it may be pulling the bolt closest to the 9:00 position backwards. Also, on the one on the left, double check the one at 3:00. As the Wilwood instructions say, safety wire is an option, but if you have it you sure do not want it pulling backwards. You have a few others that seem to be pulling straight/neutral, while this is not optimal, it is not a major problem. Did you use any loctite? I see the tube in the photo. If this is your first time doing safety wire, you did really good. As a jet engine mechanic for the Air Force, I had tons of previous safety wire experience and had some fun doing mine.

    Yes, this is my first time with safety wiring. I had to re-do a few of them until I got the hang of it. Yes, I used Red Loctite on the bolts.

    Thank you for the heads up about the ones pulling on each other. Will re-do them since I have nothing else to do at the moment.

    Hopefully the next post will be delivery of my kit.
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    You're off and running! I was going to say something about the safety wires as well but hesitated. Now that it's out there, the idea is the safety wire should come around the top of head of each bolt so that the safety wire is pulling in a tightening direction. I've learned doing this myself on these builds, and don't claim to be perfect at it. Typically takes several re-do's on each assembly for me. But it gets easier the more you do it. The picture below was from my #8674 Roadster build. Then there's the whole matter that for street only use, the safety wire is probably not necessary. So do the best you can and it will be fine. Regarding the torque, yes your conversion is right. Hopefully though you used a torque wrench that is rated for that low of ft-lbs and is accurate. Many 3/8-inch and probably all 1/2-inch wrenches have a minimum of more than that. Unfortunately several builders have snapped the bolts off. Usually because they didn't notice it was in-lbs and you can guess how that turned out. But still not that hard if you get heavy handed, and may not be able to extract the broken piece. Hopefully you didn't get too heavy handed with the red Loctite either. That stuff is evil. Just a little does the job. I typically only use it where I'm not expecting to have to take things apart again. I would never use it on small bolts like these unless it's specified. I use my share of blue Loctite. But leave the red in the cabinet most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardb View Post
    You're off and running! I was going to say something about the safety wires as well but hesitated. Now that it's out there, the idea is the safety wire should come around the top of head of each bolt so that the safety wire is pulling in a tightening direction. I've learned doing this myself on these builds, and don't claim to be perfect at it. Typically takes several re-do's on each assembly for me. But it gets easier the more you do it. The picture below was from my #8674 Roadster build. Then there's the whole matter that for street only use, the safety wire is probably not necessary. So do the best you can and it will be fine. Regarding the torque, yes your conversion is right. Hopefully though you used a torque wrench that is rated for that low of ft-lbs and is accurate. Many 3/8-inch and probably all 1/2-inch wrenches have a minimum of more than that. Unfortunately several builders have snapped the bolts off. Usually because they didn't notice it was in-lbs and you can guess how that turned out. But still not that hard if you get heavy handed, and may not be able to extract the broken piece. Hopefully you didn't get too heavy handed with the red Loctite either. That stuff is evil. Just a little does the job. I typically only use it where I'm not expecting to have to take things apart again. I would never use it on small bolts like these unless it's specified. I use my share of blue Loctite. But leave the red in the cabinet most of the time.



    Thank you for the advice. I'll definitely be re-doing some of the safety wiring so they take on more of tightening orientation. My torque wrench has a minimum of 10 Ft/lbs, so I was still able to use my existing torque wrench, but had to purchase an adapter for the 1/2inch wrench to be able to tighten those small bolts.

    I appreciate everyone following along. It makes me feel better knowing that experienced builders are keeping tabs on this rookie.
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    Delivery Question

    When the body and chassis come off the truck, will Stewart Transport have anything to wheel the chassis into my garage? Or is a chassis dolly a must have?

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicalKnowledgeNone View Post
    Delivery Question

    When the body and chassis come off the truck, will Stewart Transport have anything to wheel the chassis into my garage? Or is a chassis dolly a must have?

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    They have a cart and assuming you have a regular driveway (e.g. not gravel, etc.) will roll the chassis into your garage right where you want it. Including directly onto your jack stands or whatever. All the boxes will be brought in on the same cart with as many trips as needed. You won't need to do much beside watch and take pictures.
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    Hey, just thought... if you want to make the drive to Summerville, I'd be happy to let you use my Chassis dolly and body buck. Dolly has a 21" lift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardb View Post
    They have a cart and assuming you have a regular driveway (e.g. not gravel, etc.) will roll the chassis into your garage right where you want it. Including directly onto your jack stands or whatever. All the boxes will be brought in on the same cart with as many trips as needed. You won't need to do much beside watch and take pictures.

    Thank you EdwardB. I have jack stands and was planning on using them only because that's what we used at the Mott College build school and they seemed to work out fine. Out of curiosity, are there any specific advantages of using the chassis dolly during the build?

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadAsp427 View Post
    Hey, just thought... if you want to make the drive to Summerville, I'd be happy to let you use my Chassis dolly and body buck. Dolly has a 21" lift.

    IMG_1248.jpg IMG_1293.jpg

    Wow, thank you for the offer! Of course.. leave it to me to have just started on a body buck right before you offer yours. Palm to forehead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicalKnowledgeNone View Post
    Wow, thank you for the offer! Of course.. leave it to me to have just started on a body buck right before you offer yours. Palm to forehead.
    Just sayin' and this one has two shelves to put "stuff" on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicalKnowledgeNone View Post
    Thank you EdwardB. I have jack stands and was planning on using them only because that's what we used at the Mott College build school and they seemed to work out fine. Out of curiosity, are there any specific advantages of using the chassis dolly during the build?

    Thanks,

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    My reason for a chassis dolly (not that I’ve done anything and the body is still on) is that it makes it moble. We have a three car garage with two other cars in it. Pull out my wife’s car and I can roll the build out in the middle of the two car portion and have plenty of room all the way around it with nothing in the way. Wall etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicalKnowledgeNone View Post
    Thank you EdwardB. I have jack stands and was planning on using them only because that's what we used at the Mott College build school and they seemed to work out fine. Out of curiosity, are there any specific advantages of using the chassis dolly during the build?

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    I have to tell you, jack stands do not usually go up that high, and if they do, how steady are they? With the dolly I really liked being able to turn my build around so the the area I was actively working on was closest to my work bench/tools. Also, there was several times that I moved the chassis over to one side so that I could work on the body, again closer to tools and vacuums, etc... Also, I found myself sitting and standing on my dolly several times as I was working in the engine compartment. In these two photos, you will notice, chassis is facing opposite directions. I never opened the garage door, just turned it around.

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    +1 for a chassis dolly!
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    +2 for the chassis dolly. Mobility is key!
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    I've done a couple on jack stands. It's OK, but I can see the attraction of the dolly. The other two I've done with a 2-post lift. Now that's how to do it.
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    Delivery!

    Good news!

    After three weeks of watching the water boil, I finally took delivery of my kit. I've been waiting for this day since I was about 16 years old and I couldn't be more excited.

    Jim from Stewart Transport was awesome for a couple different reasons.


    The actual delivery process was basically a disaster, which was entirely my fault. FYI this picture makes my neighborhood look like something out of Cold War Russia, but in reality the area and buildings are actually very nice looking.

    First, Jim had to back-up his 53 foot trailer about 300 yards through a tight road that was lined by parked cars in order to get to my home, which he did without any issue, but it certainly wasn't the most comfortable thing to watch. Plus, I live in a very bustling area with people trying to get out of our little neighborhood during all of this. Lots of dirty looks from the millennials that decided to look up from their cell phones.

    Anyway, once Jim got the car unloaded from the truck, we put it on my frame dolly. However, when we tried to roll the dolly, the thing tipped over and collapsed. I think one of the brakes of the casters wasn't completely off, which was the problem. Plus, I had somehow missed the step about putting triangular support braces on the dolly. Nice work, Patrick. When that thing plunked down, my heart sank.



    Jim wasn't phased at all.

    He lifted the car back up and we put in on his cart. I don't think there was any damage to the frame or body.

    Then, as we were wheeling the car into my garage, we hit another problem. The entrance to my garage is basically two parallel concrete ramps that are about 3 feet apart with a patch of decorative rocks between the two ramps. Well, the two ramps are farther apart than the wheels of the cart, so one the wheels of the cart kept falling into the patch of decorative rocks, while the other one remained on the concrete ramp.



    My heart sank again when the cart tipped over and the car sort of toppled off the cart.

    Jim wasn't phased.

    With the help of a long 2x4 I had laying around, Jim was able to pry the cart up over the lip and into the garage.

    We then put the car on jack stands. Not ideal, but it'll work for now.



    Anyway, then I got all the boxes into the garage and Jim took off.

    Then, I took a look at the garage. I have to admit I started feeling very overwhelmed. The weight of what I had just got myself into really sank in. By that time I had to go to work, so I couldn't dwell for very long, but I'm going to jump into inventory today.

    I hope the build goes a little smoother than the delivery. Let's be honest, it probably won't, but hey, that's why I've got this forum, right?
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    Congratulations on the delivery. Sorry for the problems, but perhaps this means you got them all out of your way. The use of my dolly is still on the table if you would like. I just put plates on mine yesterday so I'm 100% legal and we will have to schedule a time for me to come and visit / help with yours. I'm only a couple hours away. Just reach out to me. I'll send you a PM with my contact information...

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