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    Ron Francis Toggle Switches - Anyone use them?

    I haven't posted here in years, been busy. Anyway, my Lucas switches have been replaced twice now and I'm tired of spending $200 each time to change them out. I was looking around for a suitable replacement and came across the Ron Francis Synergy Series switches. They have a polished nut/bezel like the Lucas switches. They require a 7/16" hole which means I'll be 3D printing some spacers to keep them centered but that isn't a big deal. Has anyone used them? I'm thinking I'll be taking a chance on them unless there are some bad reviews.

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    Yeah... I've got a couple. Nice heavy duty switch. Nice feel to them. Aint cheap though. Looks like my bezels are different. Maybe they have options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boat737 View Post
    Yeah... I've got a couple. Nice heavy duty switch. Nice feel to them. Aint cheap though. Looks like my bezels are different. Maybe they have options.
    Those look like the Classic Series correct? Larger bezel but same build quality. I'm ok with the price if I only have to buy them once.
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    It's been a few years now, so I don't remember the model/series. I did get the knobs and bezels for the heater (fan and temp) and headlight as well. So at least they all seem to match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    .. my Lucas switches have been replaced twice now.....
    Authentic British parts! Apparently, they DO make 'em like the used to.

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    Only twice? You got the good ones!

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    don't look as good but FFR switches, 15 years and still working. ;-)
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    Yeah, no kidding... the only reason I've only had to replace them twice is I have 3,000 miles on the car since 2009. Also had a few engine issues as I learned what the wrong distributor gear can do to a cam gear. Anyway, I'm gonna probably order these after I re-acquaint myself with the needed functionality from the switch. I know I need a couple off-on switches and an on-on. I'm thinking I also need an off-on-on but I don't see one of those from Ron Francis. I need to get out my electrical notes, I did everything with relays so I'm not worried about amps but more how I actually wired the switches
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    Almost every switch in my car is Ron Francis. I refused to put plastic-bodied, 5A switches in. The RF switches use all metal bodies and are rated for 20-30A, depending on the switch. They have a nice feel to them. Expensive, but you'll hopefully only buy once. I didnt use their bezels, found them too large and bulky and too big to use on a panel with foam, leather and a round switch label. I found some black brass switch nuts to hold em all in.

    Anyways, but yeah, RF sells some good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydster View Post
    Almost every switch in my car is Ron Francis. I refused to put plastic-bodied, 5A switches in. The RF switches use all metal bodies and are rated for 20-30A, depending on the switch. They have a nice feel to them. Expensive, but you'll hopefully only buy once. I didnt use their bezels, found them too large and bulky and too big to use on a panel with foam, leather and a round switch label. I found some black brass switch nuts to hold em all in.

    Anyways, but yeah, RF sells some good stuff.
    Do you happen to have a link to the black brass nuts? I kind of like the chrome but was wondering if it was going to be too much for my understated dash. If so, I'd like to tone it down a little. I'm hoping they will be fine though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    Do you happen to have a link to the black brass nuts? I kind of like the chrome but was wondering if it was going to be too much for my understated dash. If so, I'd like to tone it down a little. I'm hoping they will be fine though.
    This is what I got, but I paid about 1/2 that much for a bag of 10. Guess after I bought a bag, they realized someone might want more so they doubled the price. You can find all kinds of stuff out there, tho. I think they are 15/32", but dont buy for yours based on me. Double check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydster View Post
    This is what I got, but I paid about 1/2 that much for a bag of 10. Guess after I bought a bag, they realized someone might want more so they doubled the price. You can find all kinds of stuff out there, tho. I think they are 15/32", but dont buy for yours based on me. Double check.
    Perfect, those look really nice, might be more fitting for my dash. I'll verify when I get the switches and double check the size/pitch if I do order some. They sure are proud of those but for the right look it will be worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    Perfect, those look really nice, might be more fitting for my dash. I'll verify when I get the switches and double check the size/pitch if I do order some. They sure are proud of those but for the right look it will be worth it.
    If you get em, or something like them, use some padded pliers when tightening, and dont you dare slip. Once they are scratched, that brass underneath shines thru like a $100 led flashlight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydster View Post
    If you get em, or something like them, use some padded pliers when tightening, and dont you dare slip. Once they are scratched, that brass underneath shines thru like a $100 led flashlight.
    Yeah, I was thinking of plasti-dipping some pliers for the chrome bezels and would likely do the same for these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boat737 View Post
    Yeah... I've got a couple. Nice heavy duty switch. Nice feel to them. Aint cheap though. Looks like my bezels are different. Maybe they have options.
    Can i ask where you purchased the dash cobra emblem?
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    If you get em, or something like them, use some padded pliers when tightening, and dont you dare slip. Once they are scratched, that brass underneath shines thru like a $100 led flashlight.
    Think backwards... spin the hex nut all the way down on the shaft (against the switch body), then thread the chrome bezel nut on until it bottoms out internally or has full thread engagement (depending on it's design). Then tighten the hex nut up against the panel. No scratched bezels!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThickCobra View Post
    Can i ask where you purchased the dash cobra emblem?
    I THINK I got that on Amazon. I went through a few different iterations. Some are plastic, some metal/pewter, etc. I was toying with putting one on my radiator screen, which I think looks great, BUT, with the round Cobra badge on the lip above, was just a tad too much, so I left that one off. I think the one I stuck on the dash was one of the plastic one's. Here's a couple links https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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