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    Jason's 33 HotRod #1142 - Kingwood Texas

    Hello Everyone! After months of planning, and planning, and planning....it's finally here! I think that I'm one of the lucky one's in that my kit arrived about a month ahead of what I'd planned. Kit was ordered March 29 and arrived yesterday, May 9th. I really can't say enough about how well the overall process of ordering and shipping went. Jim from Stuart Transport was a hoot and really made the delivery experience enjoyable.

    To be honest, I feel like the dog that's been chasing cars...and now he's caught one...so now what

    My plan is to tackle the body alignment and dirty work first then move on to the mechanical although my firewall being back-ordered may cause a re-work of those thoughts.

    Build Highlights;
    Removable Hardtop
    Bike Fenders
    AC of course - I live in Texas and it's damn hot
    427ci Dart Windsor w/dual Holley EFI
    TKO600
    Monster Stage 2 Clutch
    IRS with 2018 Mustang Aluminum Diff & 3.90 gear

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    Awesome! Congrats man! And now the exciting, fun, frustrating, fun, frustrating, fun, blast, agony, fun, fulfilling roller coaster ride begins!

    What part of Texas? Kinda looks like Houston area in the pics...
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    Thanks Mike! Yep, I’m in Kingwood just NE of Houston.

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    Welcome to the madness. Let the spending begin. lol I am about 90 miles East of you. I hope you avoided the flooding the last couple of days. It got pretty scary here early this morning. Enjoy the build. It's rewarding.
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    Congratulations,

    Welcome to the rewards and frustrations of building your own car.
    I am located about 70 miles Northeast of you in Onalaska.
    My 33' hot rod car is number 843, been building slowley since 2015.

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    Congratulations! And if you are building it in a garage or shop in the middle of the Summer here in Texas you will have even a greater appreciation for the AC when done!

    Good luck and enjoy!
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    Congrats. Read all of the build threads if you haven't already.
    I had a split air AC/heat installed in my garage and glad I did. You'll need it too.
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    Woohoo! Now the fun begins! I look forward to following your build
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    My first major hurdle...I seem to be having a territorial dispute with my two year old grandson. It looks like heís laid claim to the HotRod 😊
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    I was so distracted by the wonderful weather here yesterday that I Ďforgotí to go to work and instead spent some time playing with the HotRod erector set. Iíve managed to get through inventory and found all but two interior pieces from what I can tell. I ran a few errands in my Chevelle then brought it bye to introduce it to the HotRod.
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    From my understanding, the firewall servers as the base for setting the body in place is that correct? Or is there another way to get the body set that I havenít found yet? Looking for an alternative if there is one so that I can move forward without my back ordered firewall piece.
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    Firewall is your first thing to get in place then set the body based on that.
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    There are many dependent steps and having a firewall before fitting the body is one. It's good to have a build sequence plan but you'll learn to be flexible with that plan as you wait for parts, materials, and supplies. You'll be jumping back and forth working in areas that you can.
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    Welcome to the Gen 2 family. Lots of exploration needed as there are quite a few improvements. They are catching up on the POL items. I’m taking it slow as I’m looking to get the body in primer before I even start much mechanical. Also getting stuff powder coated slows things down. Right now my firewall is out so things are slow. Read through the PDF as the new floor is a lot different.
    - Peter

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    Weíre on the same planned path Peter. I want the bodywork out of the way first, then Iíll powder coat the frame, then start mechanical assembly. I spent the day leveling the frame and marking the frame and body centerlines. I did a test fit with the hood and see I have some work cut out for me to get that aligned.

    I have rev. 3A of the PDF that shows March 2019 so guessing itís current? It still shows Gen. 1 body so Iím not sure.

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    I have the same manual. I found the chassis and the body line up very well. I focused on the Firewall first and used that to locate the body and trimmed the body a bit to clear the frame. I ended up not worry about about leveling the frame once I got the body locked in. The frame is rigid enough and it all seems to line up OK. I had to read to body mounting instructions a couple of times for the rear mount as the pictures don't show the spacer in place. Need to get my brackets back from powder coat so I can evaluate the front. Working a bit on the roof now. I went with the same laser!
    - Peter

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    That's awesome. My kit should be here in about 3 weeks. I'm also using Stewart transportation. I hope they can fit that truck down my street. Lol

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    What laser level are you using? I'm looking at a Bosch one, but considering how often I'll use it, I might just buy a cheap amazon one...
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    SC-L07G Green Laser via Amazon for $36 Mike. Seems to work fine.

    RBBJ, I live in a very tight area with lots of trees and in a cul-da-sac that’s only 80’ across. I was shocked at how easily the driver turned around, wasn’t even a thing for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBBJ 32 HOTROD View Post
    That's awesome. My kit should be here in about 3 weeks. I'm also using Stewart transportation. I hope they can fit that truck down my street. Lol
    RBBJ,

    I live in Onalaska, Tx on a narrow one way 20í wide road Steve with Stewart had no trouble getting down it. Only problem was making a 130 degree turn at the end of road.

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    Received some good news today from FF, looks like the balance of my POL is on the way via FedEx due Friday.

    Also picked up my engine block from the machine shop today. I’d dropped it off five weeks ago and was told “couple of days at most”...man that’s been frustrating!
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    Still working on shop logistics, I’m in a three car garage so it’s a bit of a challenge to store everything out of the way in order to have room to work. I got the idea for a body cart from someone on this forum, great idea and will be super helpful once I’ve finished the body fitting and move on to chassis prep. I have some items stored in the attic and with the wife being out of town I’ve managed to sneak some parts into the house upstairs...for now anyway ��
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    A 3 car garage is challenging? I wish I had that problem Great news on the POL!

    P.S. your attachments above didn't work for some reason.
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    Firewall along with most of my POL showed up last Friday so I was able to get it mocked up and set the body on. I havenít done anything with the body accept set it in place but Iím already agreeing with Peters comment above that the Gen 2 body seems to be an easy fit. You can see from my frame and body centerline thatís itís centered well without any manipulation. Itíll take a little trim work on each lower side as Peter suggested.
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    Iím not understanding this gap from the foot box aluminum at the lower rear of each piece. The way itís lined up there is nothing supporting the lower lip of each piece, do I have something messed up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael101 View Post

    I’m not understanding this gap from the foot box aluminum at the lower rear of each piece. The way it’s lined up there is nothing supporting the lower lip of each piece, do I have something messed up?
    Nope, nothing messed up, it just hangs there and is eventually tied in with the floor aluminum (with rivets and RTV) and also the transmission tunnel (likely screwed). Because of this, you're going to find that the initial attachment of the gas pedal to that piece will cause flex as you approach WOT. Hopefully that flex goes away when it's tied in with the rest of the structure.

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    Deebot

    Progressing through the bodywork. So far I have to say Iím relieved to find that the quality of the Gen II seems to be really nice. I had some struggles with the driver door but have a replacement on the way.
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    Aside from the air conditioner that I added to my shop Iím thinking that this Deebot is likely the best tool Iíve added to the build, especially during the sanding phase. I donít know about you guys but the dust drives me nuts!
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    Keep up the good work. I’m hot on your heels and appreciate any information you post.
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    OK, my ignorance is showing again...
    What is a "Deebot" and where did you get it? I tried searching on Summit but no joy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by progmgr1 View Post
    OK, my ignorance is showing again...
    What is a "Deebot" and where did you get it? I tried searching on Summit but no joy?
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    I’m pretty sure it’s his robot vacuum. Lol!
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    And what are all of those projections on the top? To keep it from getting stuck under tool boxes and other low things?
    My wife has a iRobot Roomba that I used in the garage once, it's low but can get stuck under things.
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    Check out the striker mount bracket. Mine leaves a gap where it really needs to be flush against the door frame fiberglass.
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    You Gen II guys seeing this?
    - Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimLev View Post
    And what are all of those projections on the top? To keep it from getting stuck under tool boxes and other low things?
    My wife has a iRobot Roomba that I used in the garage once, it's low but can get stuck under things.
    Jim you’re right. I added fence post caps to the top hoping to stop it from getting stuck under some areas of my shop.

    Keith...Check out Deebot on Amazon, they’re only a couple hundred buck and well worth it to me. I schedule mine to run at midnight every night.
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    Same thing for me on the pass. side striker assembly. I added shim washers between the inner bracket and body.
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    I also had to cut down the collar of the striker (poor boy style so itís ugly, I plan to buy new ones and redo that for final assembly)

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    So your striker pin was a little long and hitting the door? I really don’t like washers for this critical a part. Seems like that area would crack after a while without some area to distribute the load.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael101 View Post
    Same thing for me on the pass. side striker assembly. I added shim washers between the inner bracket and body.
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    I also had to cut down the collar of the striker (poor boy style so itís ugly, I plan to buy new ones and redo that for final assembly)

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    I spoke with Tony at FFR a whiles back on this and he suggested that I grind the hex portion round to match the bolt body (he said its not needed). This keeps the hole in the body small and you have more adjustability in and out. It worked great and will be painting the whole assembly. Unfortunately I had already opened up the hole to accommodate the hex head so I will be making a thin copper ring to cover the hole and add that finishing touch when the door is open. No pics of the final assembly as I am going to paint and all is disassembled.
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    That's a good thought Peter, I may look at adding full size plates that match the inner bracket.

    Yes, my striker pin hit the door on both driver and pass. side. Could be that I'm trying to keep the door too far forward but I had to remove quite a bit from each pin. I didn't look at cutting the fiberglass out of the way behind the latch, that might also be an option.
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    Mine is a gen 1, but I had to bend the angle that mounts the striker bolt as well as cut the hex head off on mine also.

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    Thanks AJT. I think that will solve both issues for us. I was waiting for tony to get back on this and the warped door. I got the feeling talking to FFR that the drivers door may be a common issue with Gen 2.
    - Peter

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    My drivers door seemed to be over trimmed or mis-trimmed at least. Without removing any material from the back vertical edge I still ended up with a large gap on the inner trim to dash fit.
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    Also ended up with a cracked hinge area when I tightened the inner door framing

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    And the latch area broke as well...
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    I have a replacement door on the way.

    Passenger side figment was much easier and the inner molding lines up nicely...
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    Iím enjoying the bodywork but at times I need a break, so I started engine assembly. I got the block prepped and painted using the POR system. Scat stroker crank cleared everything in the block with no issues and the main journal clearance checked out at .0015 as advertised.

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    Piston & Rod assembly went by with no issues and rod bearing clearance hit the mark at .0015 as well.

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    Deck clearance is at .0085 on #1 and .009 on #4 which is near what Iíd planned. Using .027 Cometec head gaskets will get me right at 10.5:1 compression.

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    Lunati cam an timing chain went in next...and then I ran out of beer 😡 so I stopped. Poor planning!

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    Question for the team. Iím curious to know if my engine side panel/nose cone alignment is consistent with what you guys have done. Itís hard to see in these photos but Iíve run a yellow string along the door body mounding out to the grille. If you zoom in you can see that the side panel/nose cone has a rear to front rise. I have the radiator assembly set up on the top upper control arm bolt per the manual. I also have the radiator tilting about as far forward as it will go.

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    I love that you’re running at the problem the opposite direction from me. Hopefully I can learn from your body work and you can learn from my assembly.
    33 Hot Rod #1133. LS/TKO600
    Delivered 6-17-19. Started work 7-3-19. First start 9-6-19. First drive 9-24-19

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