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    Not a waxer Jeff Kleiner's Avatar
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    I'm having bad thoughts

    This is absolutely the last thing I need or have time for but man, I'm sure having a hard time resisting...

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...NBzdSR_n655Bvc

    Somebody unplug my internet connection and save me from myself.

    Jeff

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    You should absolutely buy it!!
    Hope that helps haha
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    That's just across town from me! You should finish my car up quick, bring it out and take the Tiger home with you. I can even store it in my garage for you until you are ready to get it.

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    Seems to me that the value of Tigers has been rising fast and that they are getting very expensive. I don't know how much it will end up going for, but you could end up okay financiering I would guess. We all know you can make it beautiful. That nest of wiring under the dash would scare me though.

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    Hmmm. I'm very tempted.
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    That looks like a whole lotta fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kleiner View Post
    This is absolutely the last thing I need or have time for but man, I'm sure having a hard time resisting...


    Jeff

    If you hurry up and get it done, you could bring it to LCS 2020.

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    short story about a Tiger.

    I worked in NC for awhile and one of the other engineers had a Tiger that he bought used. To learn more about it, he went to a Tiger/Sunbeam get together and car show. Picked up a newsletter that had an article about the low SN tigers. Turns out SN 2 and 3 where known about, but Number 1 was not, and assumed to be bogus or destroyed. He wondered what his was and looked. Guess what, he had the number 1 Tiger. So a full restoration was done. After that driving it around he crashed it. I left the area before he decided what to do about. SAD...
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    Hahaha, you’ve come to us to talk you out of spending money on cars? Hilarious.
    Have fun with the Tiger. Keep us updated.
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    Have always liked the Tigers, even owned one from 67-68, but I could not keep tires on the rear. Then I bought a TVR Griffith 200. It was worse.

    This will not stay at a bargain price for long, since it still has 6 days to go.
    FFR 3319. On the road since 2002 with a lot of upgrades.

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    I have always liked the Tiger's, but that one has been through a lot. So many things have been tinkered with, added to, or taken away, it won't ever be worth much as a collectors vehicle. It still requires a lot of time and work to finish it...Then what after all that, it actually turns out to be a Sunbeam Alpine that someone cloned?

    There, is that what you needed to bring you to your senses?

    If your really into self-abuse, you could get this one for a tenth the price. It even has a fiberglass body as an added incentive for you!

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-bond-equipe-4s/

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    You come to this group and look for restraint?!? I’m surprised it’s not already in your garage
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    Jeff, 'Ol friend . . . you need a distraction from the every day mundane task of working on the same ol car . . . Ha Ha Ha. GO FOR IT! Not everyone can say they own a "Poor Mans Cobra".

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    Can’t say I’d me much help Jeff. Snag it before I do.

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    Move fast and buy it before someone on this forum does!

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    Jeff,

    I'm certain you're just trying to get one of us to bid it up past your comfort zone...

    Stop tempting me - like you, I need another project like I need another hole in my head.


    But that one is very, very tempting.

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    Jeff,

    Arnold Said It Best:

    https://youtu.be/a6P40wLThbc

    Heck, I can't finish my car to save my life yet you finish cars for all sorts of people.

    Steve

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    What are you saving your hard earned cash for?
    Are you hesitant because you might not be able to finish it? Might be a thought but I'm not buying it.
    Go for it!
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    Get it. Paint it blue with white strips, won't be a JAC.

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    Those cars just keep going up in value. I would consider it an investment.

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    That would be a very cool project. So much of the work has been done already. That current price/bid will be going up for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich grsc View Post
    Get it. Paint it blue with white strips, won't be a JAC.
    JAT

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    So, did you buy it yet? We all want to see it restored...
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    My father had a guy that used to come to our shop that raced one of these. They were definitely a hot rod in their day.
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    You’re gonna need a place to keep it. https://www.latimes.com/business/rea...mpression=true

    You’re welcome.


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    Guys! Give him a break... hasn’t had the time to paint the car he has now!!
    FFR 5136 Started as a donor...donor guages, engine, trans,etc. Now...TFS street intake,stage 1 cam, GT40p's,24# injectors and 80mm MAF,70mm TB,Z-spec t-5, and PSE Halibrand wrapped with Nitto 555 G2’s. My ever evolving dream car!!

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    Hmmmmmm . . . Thermal Ca. Gets its name from ??? Right outside of and close by to Furnace Ca. - home of the hottest temperature recorded in the USA at 134° F . . . ever! Homes there will need 20 tons of A/C just to maintain 85° indoor temps. Walking around requires some VERY sturdy shoes and don't touch anything that even looks like it might be a hand rail or support structure. You need to keep your hand tools in a fridge.

    Don't ask me how I know these things . . .

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    Jeff, FWIW, I owned it's distant cousin, a "Roots Group" Hillman Husky that I dropped a Hi-Po 289 in - a Tiger disguised as an English panel truck.

    Yea, I know, no pictures, didn't happen

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    I think a Tiger would be cool and nobody would ask if it was real (well, you'd still have "those guys" that would ask if it was an Alpine, but at least no one would be knocking on your fenders. And a lot more people would ask "what is it? Is it still sacralige to drop an LS in there?)

    C'mon Jeff. You need something to do in your spare time! And I like Rich's JAT!
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    It went for 25.5K. As soon as it crested 20 (as I suspected it would) I was out

    Jeff

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    Coulda, woulda, shoulda!!?

    Nice find though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mptech View Post
    is it still sacralige to drop an ls in there?)
    yes
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    Damn Jeff, sorry you missed out. That would've been one nice ride when you finished.

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    I looked up the value at Hagerty. Prices have actually been going down. I know form my magazines that a lot of collector cars are slipping right now.

    Current Values
    #1 Concours $130,000 (Down from $150,000 in sept 2016)
    #2 Excellent $87,300 (Down from $112,500)
    #3 Good $66,400 (Down from ~$88,000)
    #4 Fair $44,100 (Down from ~$55,000)

    Most freshly restored "shows cars" are #2. #1 cars are the few best in the world examples, which that one could probably never be.

    I wonder how fast the $60k margin would get eaten up restoring that one? I'll bet Jeff could have brought it in with some margin if anyone could.

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    Over 25k......they would have to throw in agent 99...….wouldjabelieve, 98?...da Bat......Oh crap ! Laraby is stuck in the mail box again....gotta go !

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    Quote Originally Posted by j.miller View Post

    Over 25k......they would have to throw in agent 99...….wouldjabelieve, 98?...da Bat
    Oh, man, blast from the past...

    One of my first loves (you're telling our age, lol).


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    The prices on these Tigers, is getting just silly..

    https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds.../sunbeam/tiger

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC Bill View Post
    The prices on these Tigers, is getting just silly..

    https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds.../sunbeam/tiger

    Yes. But if you compare it to $25K for a basket case........some of those prices don't look too bad.

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