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    First Snake Bite

    Kids on our street gave me the above name because I was always working in the garage.

    I first posted on the Roadster page as Im joining the club Figured I should move over here and do some updates.
    Kit was ready to ship July 27th, she was delivered two weeks later on August 8th.
    My configuration is , IRS, powder coated, cut outs, Coyote, leather seats. blank dash, Power steering, heater, 17 halibrands, sun visors and wind wings.

    Front suspension installed and rack centered per Karlos. I need to remove the shocks and check the rebound damping. All rivet holes drilled for front sheet metal.
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    Optional jungle gym for grand kids
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    IRS installed, waiting for back ordered calipers. That pumpkin is heavy and awkward.
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    I was never warned by forum members on how many band aids I would need.

    As she sits today.
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    check your upper "A" arm to hub bolts on the IRS, I think you have the spacer on the wrong side.
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    Is this wrong?

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    Mocked up the Russ Thompson drop trunk today. The instructions are clear and Im very happy with the quality of his products.

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    Matting corners are marked with matching alpha charters making it easy for dummies (me) to not goof it up.

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    All mocked up, I had to do a second cut around the entire perimeter of the drop trunk to make the transition between the vertical trunk wall and existing trunk deck match better.
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    Ordered my Gen 2 Coyote, TKO 600, scatter shield, hydraulic clutch, SS headers with cats, drive shaft safety loop and heated seat inserts from Mike Forte today. It sound like the Gen 2’s are getting harder and harder to find. Mike is a great guy to work with.
    I also dropped off my engine compartment panels for powder coating yesterday.

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    I had my engine compartment powder coated the wrong color. I wanted a gun metal gray in came out a dark gray with a green tone. I think my path forward will be scuff up the panels and paint with a rattle can, a little depressed, oh well, push forward. Yes, it was me that picked the wrong color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobm488 View Post
    Is this wrong?

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    Cant completely tell from the picture but seems ok, others should chime in. This is what mine looked like. Thread spacing should be approximately equal at the stated arm length for adjustability later as well.
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    Complete kit. Delivered 3/19.
    Build thread: https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...4-Build-Thread
    Dart 347 with FiTech 600 from Forte. TKO600. PS. IRS. Wilwoods.
    Forte hydraulic clutch, mech throttle.
    Multiple breeze components: RT turn signal and drop trunk.
    ReplicaParts: Radiator aluminum, under dash panel, multiple different trim rings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobm488 View Post
    Is this wrong?

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    That looks like the way I did mine, which doesn't necessarily mean its correct, lol. But what do you mean by "wrong"?
    MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Eaton View Post
    That looks like the way I did mine, which doesn't necessarily mean its correct, lol. But what do you mean by "wrong"?
    David Williamson said.
    "check your upper "A" arm to hub bolts on the IRS, I think you have the spacer on the wrong side.
    David W"

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    The photo you showed is the upper control arm to spindle and the spacer looks correct to me.
    MK4 #9130 , complete kit, arrived 8/10/2017.
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    A few progress photos.
    Installed a triple reservoir, this thing is massive.

    Bracket made from old piece of angle
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    Fabricated upper side panels for the trunk, easier and a lot messier than I thought. I traced the outside trunk panel onto a piece of aluminum, then added three tabs that would later be bent to sit on top of the trunk steel. After getting the shape, there was a lot of trimming and test fitting to miss the seat belt bracket and roll bar.

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    Hey Bob. The upper trunk panels look great!
    MK IV Build #9659, 3 link, 17's, Forte 347, Sniper EFI, power steering, built for a freak sized person with 17" Kirkey Vintage seats, RT drop trunk, RT turn signal, lots of stuff from Breeze Automotive, Wilwood brakes, paint by Jeff Miller

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    Looking good! good luck with the rest of the build!

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    Coyote showed up from Forte the other day, its huge. Now the hard work begins.
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    Looking good Bob. Not the hard work. The fun work!
    MK IV Build #9659, 3 link, 17's, Forte 347, Sniper EFI, power steering, built for a freak sized person with 17" Kirkey Vintage seats, RT drop trunk, RT turn signal, lots of stuff from Breeze Automotive, Wilwood brakes, paint by Jeff Miller

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    That Gen 2 sure looks better than the Gen 3!

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    Coyote will be awsome in that car. Keep it going.

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    Sweet new stuff. Looking forward to the coyote gen2 install.

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    Coyote went in pretty easy. Unfortunately I broke the driver side exhaust gasket. Of course not even Ford keeps them in stock. Engine is sitting on the mounts but not tightened down. I dont think I should do anything else on the motor until I know I can bolt the header in without having to jack the motor up or move forward to secure all the header bolts. Sorry for the rotated photos.
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    Congrats Bob! Big day for you. Your build is looking good.
    MK IV Build #9659, 3 link, 17's, Forte 347, Sniper EFI, power steering, built for a freak sized person with 17" Kirkey Vintage seats, RT drop trunk, RT turn signal, lots of stuff from Breeze Automotive, Wilwood brakes, paint by Jeff Miller

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    May be something you want to do, or not. I think Jeff K sometimes puts a washer between the engine block and drivers side motor mount. This adds some clearance in the tight areas, ie foot box, valve cover, headers, etc.
    I just did this after the engine and headers are on. Might be easier now for you, if desired.
    It also makes the dipstick a little more accessible.

    One other thing, I have the same reservoirs, not mounted yet. I put the F5 supplied ones on.
    Now I have to change out. It looks like with the reservoirs at the rear most position, the dip stick will be almost inaccessible. I have my body on and installing hood hinges, so should be able to check clearances.
    Last edited by Railroad; 12-01-2019 at 12:34 PM.
    20th Anniversary Mk IV, A50XS Coyote, TKO 600, Trunk Drop Box, Trunk Battery Box, Cubby Hole, Seat Heaters, Radiator hanger and shroud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Railroad View Post
    May be something you want to do, or not. I think Jeff K sometimes puts a washer between the engine block and drivers side motor mount. This adds some clearance in the tight areas, ie foot box, valve cover, headers, etc.
    I just did this after the engine and headers are on. Might be easier now for you, if desired.
    It also makes the dipstick a little more accessible.

    One other thing, I have the same reservoirs, not mounted yet. I put the F5 supplied ones on.
    Now I have to change out. It looks like with the reservoirs at the rear most position, the dip stick will be almost inaccessible. I have my body on and installing hood hinges, so should be able to check clearances.
    Thanks Railroad, I escaped my decorating duties for a few minutes to visit garage to investigate the reservoir/dipstick situation. I re-installed the reservoirs and it is definably not optimal, but it does work.

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    One washer/shim will make difference on the engine mount?

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    I put one average thickness flat washer at each bolt, between the block and motor mount. I can now slide a piece of cardboard between the foot box and all close points on the engine and headers. It is more clearance than I had and put the engine on a perfect level.

    The washer location will not compromise the motor mount. If you want to maintain surface contact area, get a fender washer.

    Check with Jeff Kleiner. It is one of his revealed tricks.
    Last edited by Railroad; 12-02-2019 at 06:24 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Railroad View Post
    I put one average thickness flat washer at each bolt, between the block and motor mount. I can now slide a piece of cardboard between the foot box and all close points on the engine and headers. It is more clearance than I had and put the engine on a perfect level.

    The washer location will not compromise the motor mount. If you want to maintain surface contact area, get a fender washer.

    Check with Jeff Kleiner. It is one of his revealed tricks.
    I'll add them tomorrow, thank you

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    Very very close to first start. I have a vacuum question.

    Do I move the vacuum line from the inlet ell to the fitting on the manifold as shown?

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    Pretty sure the hose from the air intake goes to the valve cover, Drivers side on mine. This provides clean air into the crankcase for the pcv to draw from. Mine is a Gen 1, plumbed a little diff.
    Hope that makes some kind of sense.
    20th Anniversary Mk IV, A50XS Coyote, TKO 600, Trunk Drop Box, Trunk Battery Box, Cubby Hole, Seat Heaters, Radiator hanger and shroud.

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    There is one from the driver’s side valve cover that already ties into the ell on the opposite side.

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    Valve cover on one side is PCV to intake vacuum source. Other valve cover to filtered air source.
    If these two are connected by a single hose, we need someone else to advise, unless it is to close the crankcase for shipping.
    I called Ford Perf to verify mine,,, one side already plumbed to intake, other side needed to be hooked to air intake tube.
    Manifold connection to air intake will be a vacuum leak.
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    If you can see in the pic. My drivers side is filtered by a K&N filter. the other side plumbs to the intake. Routing may be diff, but result is the same.
    Maybe a Gen II owner will post a pic.
    Last edited by Railroad; 12-14-2019 at 05:10 PM.
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    I just had my first start. My Oil pressure gage showed no pressure, I'll have to look into that.

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    My Speedhut gauge and sender, started out OK. 100 lbs, cold start, would go down between 60 and 80lbs warm. Later the reading would drop to very low, 20 lbs and then recover. Very unnerving. Speedhut sent me a new sending unit and all is well. Sounded like the engine fired right up, no problems.
    20th Anniversary Mk IV, A50XS Coyote, TKO 600, Trunk Drop Box, Trunk Battery Box, Cubby Hole, Seat Heaters, Radiator hanger and shroud.

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    Off to Jeff Miller Customs, De Bat. for body and paint. I'm thinking of a purple/blue with a dark gray stripe. Have not found the exact color yet.

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    Maybe something like this
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    I think Ive graduated? The DMV is closed so no license. This has not stopped me from putting a few miles on it. Yesterday I drove it to the tire shop to have the 4 wheel alignment, boy was my alignment off. Drove it again this morning to the gas station. It seems to be running great so far with no leaks, probably just jinx myself stating that. I think I would have been done sooner if I could have done most task just once.
    Thanks to everyone in this forum for your help, It would have been a lot harder if not impossible (for me) to do this project without your help.

    Coyote by Forte
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    Congratulations! Get that baby out in the sun and post some more photos please. There are three times when it is OK to brag about your accomplishments; job interview, asking for a raise and when graduating your FFR. Show her off.
    -Steve
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    Well done, congratulations from down the road.....

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    I only have 5 miles on my car and I got my first snake bite today. It wasn’t from getting in or out of the car it was dusting the car off after a short drive to Starbucks. I don’t how you guys with small kids keep them from getting burned. I wonder how many more burns it will take for me to figure it out, if ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobm488 View Post
    I think I’ve graduated? The DMV is closed so no license. This has not stopped me from putting a few miles on it. Yesterday I drove it to the tire shop to have the 4 wheel alignment, boy was my alignment off. Drove it again this morning to the gas station. It seems to be running great so far with no leaks, probably just jinx myself stating that. I think I would have been done sooner if I could have done most task just once.
    Thanks to everyone in this forum for your help, It would have been a lot harder if not impossible (for me) to do this project without your help.

    Coyote by Forte
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    Like The color, This is a good looking car!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobm488 View Post
    I only have 5 miles on my car and I got my first snake bite today. It wasn’t from getting in or out of the car it was dusting the car off after a short drive to Starbucks. I don’t how you guys with small kids keep them from getting burned. I wonder how many more burns it will take for me to figure it out, if ever.
    Gets some shields they help a lot. I got mine from finishline here is a link. A little pricy but worth the protection and a lot of people compliment me on the look.
    https://www.finishlineaccessories.co...s-ceramic.aspx
    MKIV #9122 Ordered kit 5/24/17 received kit 8/11/17 MK4 Base kit +,First Start 4/7/18, First Go-Cart 4/22/18, In gelcoat, licensed and driving 8/11/18. Coyote gen2, T-56, 2015 IRS 3.31, 17" Halibrand replicas w/Nitto NT555 G2, Withby Motorcars power brake kit W/Wilwood pedals, 04 Cobra front brakes, 15 Mustang rear brakes with mods, power steering. Paint Jeff Miller Da Bat, Lexus Spectra Blue Mica W/Toyota Silver Sky Metallic strips. Build thread: http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showt...Paul2STL-Build

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