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    Alternative Wheel Spinner Assembly ?

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    Has anyone come across a completely different spinner assembly for the MK4 wheels ? I just test fitted one of my spinners, made sure everything was clean and free from dirt, yet still managed to get the spinner jammed on the center assembly. In the end had to cut off the spinner.

    There has to be a better way to do this. Searching online comes up with many alternatives but just wondering if anyone else has already gone down this path and has a better solution.

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    Sorry to hear that. Obviously your choice. But many of us have successfully used those parts. In my case multiple times. I wouldn't be so quick to toss them aside. May you received something that was defective. It happens. Call Factory Five and I'll be they'll work with you to replace. Do the rest go together OK?

    One other thing. Not meaning to insult, but I assume you know there are LH and RH threaded spinners and adapters? Any chance you matched the wrong pieces together and that caused the issue?
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    Yep, i already know about the LH and RH threaded components. I had the correct thread on the correct adapter. Spun around a good way but then seemed to hit a hitch in the threading. Perhaps a little heavy handed on my part but i had to get the angle grinder out to cut it off. Wheel is still ok, no damage from what I can see. I haven't even tried fitting the other ones yet.

    I know many people have used these parts however they just seem to be a problem waiting to happen once they've been on there a while and have picked up all kinds of dirt. I'll continue to scour the internet for ideas but i'll likely order another spinner assembly from factory five anyway.

    I'm hoping there's a way to get this all hooked up without the need for threads
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    I sprayed mine with Teflon silicone spray on the threads and did the O-ring from this thread https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...ux-knock-off-s

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    A little anti-seize works well too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilmore View Post
    A little anti-seize works well too.
    Anti-seize is mandatory.
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    Frank is right. Anti seize is mandatory.
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    Check the set screws in the spinners. Mine were run in, almost touching. Spinners did not want to come off on trial fit. ,,,backed the set screws up and easy peasy.
    You might be able to spray some lube in the set screw hole, which will put it right on the threads.
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    What is the best anti-seize to use for this ?
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    I like the Cobra Valley product, Spinner Eaze.
    http://performanceunlimited.com/cobr...innereaze.html

    This stuff isn't like typical anti seize. Much cleaner to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa View Post
    I like the Cobra Valley product, Spinner Eaze.
    http://performanceunlimited.com/cobr...innereaze.html

    This stuff isn't like typical anti seize. Much cleaner to work with.
    Agree. It works great. I also use in in the coil over adjusters to keep them moving easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa View Post
    I like the Cobra Valley product, Spinner Eaze.
    http://performanceunlimited.com/cobr...innereaze.html

    This stuff isn't like typical anti seize. Much cleaner to work with.
    What's wrong with regular anti-seize? I mean, just one little dab is enough to get on every piece of clothing in your entire wardrobe. :-)
    I keep meaning to order some spinnereaze. Thanks for the reminder.

    Pretty much the only thing that galls quicker than stainless steel is aluminum. Perfectly clean is just good welding (galling) prep. AL threads must be lubricated. It sucks that you learned the hard way. Maybe FFR will take pity and help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewma View Post
    What is the best anti-seize to use for this ?
    Put me in the no anti-seize camp. Every car that comes to me gets the wheels removed so after removing about a hundred of 'em I can see a definite trend...the threads don't gall but the paste type anti-seize thickens, draws dust and tends to make spinner removal more difficult than ones where the threads have been left dry or have been installed with a dry graphite type lube such as my favorite--- CRC 3094

    https://www.crcindustries.com/produc...-oz-03094.html

    After pinning the hub to the wheel with setscrews on a few sets years ago I now go a different route and just shove a piece of pool noodle behind the hub to keep it pushed out, hit the threads with the dry lube and toss the spinner setscrews into thetrash. Never a problem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kleiner View Post
    After pinning the hub to the wheel with setscrews on a few sets years ago I now go a different route and just shove a piece of pool noodle behind the hub to keep it pushed out, hit the threads with the dry lube and toss the spinner setscrews into thetrash. Never a problem...

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    Hey Jeff - just to be clear, you don't mechanically restrain the spinners at all, just count on the pool noodle piece pushing out on the spinner to lock it into the threads? I've been anticipating a chore for drilling the set screws, this would be a great alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by initiator View Post
    Hey Jeff - just to be clear, you don't mechanically restrain the spinners at all, just count on the pool noodle piece pushing out on the spinner to lock it into the threads? I've been anticipating a chore for drilling the set screws, this would be a great alternative.
    Right. The noodle just puts springlike pressure against the center so that it stays pushed out while you get the spinner started and turned a few threads. Once you have a few turns in it you can pull out on the spinner "wings" while turning them to apply outward pressure to keep the center against the wheel until it's snug. Once it's hand tight give 'em a light tap or two with a plastic mallet and you're done!

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    X2 on CRC graphite spray and pool noodle. A few months into driving and it seems to work very well, have had the wheels off and on a few times without problem.
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    Spinner hub lock

    This post is for those who track their cars with groups that require the spinners to be safety wired to the wheel or removed. Recently I ran at Sonoma Raceway with the Norcal Shelby Club, and what a pain to have to remove all 4 wheels to remove the spinners and hub.

    So I had been putting a dab of RTV on the spinner hub to allow the spinner to be threaded on, but didn't feel comfortable leaving the spinner hubs in the wheels for a track day. I thought about the pool noodle, but with the heat buildup from high speed braking, thought it would probably melt or take a set and let the hub get loose. So removed the spinner hubs for the track day also...pain fighting dried silicone sealer. I need something easier as I get older.

    So I made an aluminum ring that "cone point" set screws would dig into the wheel aluminum, and "flat point" set screws that would put pressure on the back of the spinner hub. No chance of the hub coming loose due to heat or vibration on the track. It's also nice that you can rotate the spinner until it lines up with the wheel spokes, then tighten the flat point set screws, go one the same way every time now.
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    I did set screws because I autocross and track so have to remove mine at least once a month.

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