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    Mk4 Roadster Build Video: Body Work

    The Mk4 Roadster build videos are back! It's been a while, but we've got several new build videos filmed, and we've been working on getting them edited for you. One of the most requested videos has been on body work. We've broken the steps up into a few videos, and in the first one, Tony and John give you an overview of the steps they take to get the body ready for paint. Click here to visit our YouTube channel to watch more build videos and subscribe - https://www.youtube.com/factoryfive/.

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    Great timing for me, other than I filled the wheel well lip as shipped. Nothing a body saw cannot handle.
    Really looking forward to the rest of the body work tips.
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    Thanks for making these, I enjoyed watching the earlier ones. Perfect timing for some more videos for me.
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    I watched the first one already and am looking forward to the rest of the series.
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    Thanks for these new videos. Getting ready to tackle some body work.
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    Thanks for this video and I look forward to the others.
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    Thank you much for this vid. Saw it last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aircontroller View Post
    Thank you much for this vid. Saw it last night.
    Intentional double entendre?
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    Well Miller, I guess this means our party is over. Looks like you, Ken and me are gonna' just have to do like you said years ago... "Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts". It was a good ride while it lasted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kleiner View Post
    Well Miller, I guess this means our party is over. Looks like you, Ken and me are gonna' just have to do like you said years ago... "Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts". It was a good ride while it lasted

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    YEP, you guys sucked all the gravy for far tooooooo long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kleiner View Post
    Well Miller, I guess this means our party is over. Looks like you, Ken and me are gonna' just have to do like you said years ago... "Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts". It was a good ride while it lasted

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    No way, Jeff. That video will likely cause you more work in the long run as more of us amateurs start hacking up the wheel arches and over trimming doors, hood, and trunk based on gapping them on poorly positioned bodies. Looks more like job security in the making to me.

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    ROFL!!!!! Oh that’s rich! Nice! But not, not me just yet. ROFL!!!!!


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    Intentional double entendre?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa View Post
    No way, Jeff. That video will likely cause you more work in the long run as more of us amateurs start hacking up the wheel arches and over trimming doors, hood, and trunk based on gapping them on poorly positioned bodies. Looks more like job security in the making to me.

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    Or not... Remember when Mom would say "You made this mess, now you clean it up"? It might be kind of like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kleiner View Post
    Well Miller, I guess this means our party is over. Looks like you, Ken and me are gonna' just have to do like you said years ago... "Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts". It was a good ride while it lasted

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    While I enjoy watching the video, there’s zero chance I’m gonna attempt to do it.... Don’t sit on that porch too long, I need someone to paint my car next summer....
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    Errrr,

    Paint & Body is one of those things where you need to know what you don't know. I know I don't want to do the necessary prep it will take to get the finish I want, my wife won't left me have a spray booth, and I'd do a rather poor job at it anyway. Then, when I take it to a guy that knows what he's doing to fix my mess, I'll embarrass myself, shaming pictures of my failed craftsmanship get posted on the internet, and it cost more...much more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kleiner View Post
    Or not... Remember when Mom would say "You made this mess, now you clean it up"? It might be kind of like that

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    I hear ya, Jeff. I know when my dad was doing body & paint that he would not accept anyone's attempted body work. His reputation was more important than cranking out quick product.

    BTW - Thanks for the update and pictures on my car today! It looks incredible.
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    Part 2 of the Mk4 body work videos is now live. In this video, John goes over the tools he uses and then starts trimming the fenders.

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    Love the videos. Please keep them coming...

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    Yes, keep the videos coming. More the better, I enjoy watching them.
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    In this video, John and Tony go over how to trim and gap the doors on the Mk4 Roadster.

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    Timely, starting to do this kind of stuff on my '33
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    If only they would do a video on the roadster driver side door fit......
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    Quote Originally Posted by brewha View Post
    If only they would do a video on the roadster driver side door fit......
    I thought exactly the same thing as I was watching it.
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    Hey, daBat, watching all these videos makes me appreciate even more all the work you did on my car! I was pretty clueless at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brewha View Post
    If only they would do a video on the roadster driver side door fit......
    Ha! I noticed they chose to show the "easy" one as well. Still a good set of videos for those that want to take on the bodywork themselves. I used the same method of running a tape line to do the initial hood fitting just to get it to sit in the opening. I left the rest to Mr. Kleiner.
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    Yep Kleiner…..we are dead in the water. I'll mix up some Sweet Tea and you get the ammo. Them somesabishes squirrels are gonna wish FFR never made them videos. and that's for sure and for certain !

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    Quote Originally Posted by j.miller View Post
    Yep Kleiner…..we are dead in the water. I'll mix up some Sweet Tea and you get the ammo. Them somesabishes squirrels are gonna wish FFR never made them videos. and that's for sure and for certain !
    Yeah, the jig is up and our days are numbered but I'll be just as happy sitting on the porch with you---we'll even invite Brother Ken over! One thing I've learned the hard way though; don't shoot the bushy tailed black squirrels with the white stripe

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    Quote Originally Posted by j.miller View Post
    Yep Kleiner…..we are dead in the water. I'll mix up some Sweet Tea and you get the ammo. Them somesabishes squirrels are gonna wish FFR never made them videos. and that's for sure and for certain !
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kleiner View Post
    Yeah, the jig is up and our days are numbered but I'll be just as happy sitting on the porch with you---we'll even invite Brother Ken over! One thing I've learned the hard way though; don't shoot the bushy tailed black squirrels with the white stripe

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoDadGo View Post
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    Have you guys thought about coming to Louisiana to shoot some Nutria for a living as a new career path?
    Steve, that seems too much like work. What you don't understand is that when Brother Bat and I say ""Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts" it's really code for ""Sit on the porch drinking." Period. The squirrel part is just to make it sound like we might be doing something remotely useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kleiner View Post
    Steve, that seems too much like work. What you don't understand is that when Brother Bat and I say ""Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts" it's really code for ""Sit on the porch drinking." Period. The squirrel part is just to make it sound like we might be doing something remotely useful.

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    Damn, I want an airboat. I've got the rimfire...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kleiner View Post
    Steve, that seems too much like work. What you don't understand is that when Brother Bat and I say ""Sit on the porch drinking sweet tea and shooting squirrels off of the fence posts" it's really code for ""Sit on the porch drinking." Period. The squirrel part is just to make it sound like we might be doing something remotely useful.

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    Well invite me over, you an D'bat work on your rocking and sip's, I'll protect you from the tree-rats. I hate those things.

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    After watching those videos I’m SO ready to start my own bodywork!!!!!!

    (then fork over twice as much money to daBat to fix it!)

    I’m not touching a thing until I get yay or nay instructions from Jeff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewha View Post
    If only they would do a video on the roadster driver side door fit......
    But the driver side door is just so much fun!



    Body filler to build it up is extensive before you start sanding.


    Passenger side is much better to get it perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    But the driver side door is just so much fun!



    Body filler to build it up is extensive before you start sanding.


    Passenger side is much better to get it perfect.
    Like almost everything in life there is more than one way to do things. Back 10-12 years ago I used to load the doors up with some pretty heavy mud (not as much as shown in the pics above) but have learned other ways to go about making them fit that don't take anywhere near as much filler or labor:









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    If your body is NOT as nice as mine, then send it to Jeff K. or his buddy Jeff M.

    https://youtu.be/_3sLamdkIFg

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoDadGo View Post
    If your body is NOT as nice as mine, then send it to Jeff K. or his buddy Jeff M.

    https://youtu.be/_3sLamdkIFg

    https://youtu.be/meBYeI96_A8

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    I think you should stand in the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich grsc View Post
    I think you should stand in the corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    But the driver side door is just so much fun!


    Duke-

    Your body work turned out beautifully!! And, that is doubly tough on a black car. Your car is truly stunning!!

    I can't imagine how much work went into it, but it is awesome!!

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